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Old 09-07-2008, 04:06 PM
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No,you're right, Duchess. She said to the journalists that "you'll be surprised by the next thing I do."
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I remember the Mercedes could have ended exposed into a museum. How about making it an attraction, people could sit in it and enjoy a cup of coffee ... Complete madness
The thought that the blood-stained vehicle might be displayed somewhere makes me cringe; it is in extremely poor taste and I can only imagine how the thought would distress William and Harry, and also Charles, who would also be appalled.

However I believe the owner has the right to have it returned, and that it should be returned. Though I would hope they would destroy it quietly, if they want to do something distasteful with it that is just another of the unfortunate consequences flowing from Diana's decision to link herself to the Fayeds and to not wear a seat belt that fateful night. If an ordinary person had been killed in the vehicle it wouldn't be an issue. Distressing as the outcome may be, IMO neither the RF nor the police nor anyone else has the right to deprive the owners of their property.
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Old 09-08-2008, 05:15 AM
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Thank you, Incas--I should have phrased myself better, looking at what I wronte I can only say erm....
What I meant was a reflection on Mr.Al-Fayed currently and his "monuments" of the wine glass and that tacky statue at Harrods. Unfortunantly, one image our younger generation who is coming along will have is that God-Awful statue. .
On thinking about these displays in a shop (even such an elegant one as Harrods) I assume that offering the Mercedes to Fayed is the most normal thing to do! And I guess that Fayed will have to buy it in order to prevent the Mercedes to come up cut in pieces with a certificate testifying that this is a piece of the seat upholstery where Dodi died and that is a piece of the carpet where Diana sat on when she was cut from the wreck....

I think what M. Musa of Etoile Limousines is doing is playing tricks on trickster Fayed - do we know btw if Etoile Limousines are still supplying cars to Paris Ritz guests? If not, maybe M. Musa has his own agenda to offend and annoy Fayed...
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However I believe the owner has the right to have it returned, and that it should be returned. Though I would hope they would destroy it quietly, if they want to do something distasteful with it that is just another of the unfortunate consequences flowing from Diana's decision to link herself to the Fayeds and to not wear a seat belt that fateful night. If an ordinary person had been killed in the vehicle it wouldn't be an issue. Distressing as the outcome may be, IMO neither the RF nor the police nor anyone else has the right to deprive the owners of their property.
I totally agree with you but the owner seems rather 'interested' in making the most out of this situation. I think he wants more than a compensation since someone extremely famous died in it. If he wanted the insurance to pay him back the price of the car, that would sound fair to me. However, it looks like he wishes to have it back AND resell it for a huge sum of money, as he proposed to Fayed. I doubt he has any plan to destroy it quietly. It would be like crushing gold bars with a road roller.
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Old 09-08-2008, 04:27 PM
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This whole thing is just so distasteful. Couldn't the car be at least washed to get the stains off it. Ugh.
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If he wanted the insurance to pay him back the price of the car, that would sound fair to me.
Good point on the insurance. I can't find any article on if any insurance was paid out as a result of the accident, either to the family of the deceased or the survivor. As a limo business, there would be more extensive coverage than an average car owner. It would be interesting to know how that aspect was settled. If Mr. Musa has been compensated for the destruction of his vehicle, then he has no right to claim ownership. The insurance company would have that claim and decide on its disposal.
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I thought of that too but in the article M. Musa is quoted as saying,
‘We have never claimed on the insurance policy covering this vehicle, and see no reason why we should simply forget about it', so as far as I can see there's no legal reason why the owner can't, and shouldn't, get the vehicle back. I don't think it would be right to allow the RF or the "good taste police" or anyone else to be able to exert influence to stop a private individual or corporation having possession of their rightful property.

In case anyone else was wondering, the smashed Porsche James Dean died in "was toured around the US as part of a driver safety presentation, but en route between two stops the car disappeared. In 2005 Volo Auto Museum in Volo, Illinois, offered $1 million to anyone who currently had the car. So far it has not resurfaced." James Dean Dies in Car Accident

The car Jayne Mansfield died in was returned to its owner who eventually sold it. It was in a museum in Florida for several years but is now kept by a fan in North Carolina. Jayne Mansfield's grave
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What a moving and beautiful memorial for unforgettable Princess Diana, what Sir Richard Attenborough wrote.
Here in Brasil, there is not much interest for the RF but Diana will always be for us, a very human princess who cared for others. Our Lady Di.
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Good point on the insurance. I can't find any article on if any insurance was paid out as a result of the accident, either to the family of the deceased or the survivor. As a limo business, there would be more extensive coverage than an average car owner. It would be interesting to know how that aspect was settled. If Mr. Musa has been compensated for the destruction of his vehicle, then he has no right to claim ownership. The insurance company would have that claim and decide on its disposal.
He was quoted in the article as having received nothing form the insurance - it was said as if he didn't ask by his own choice so probably he always saw the "added" value of what had happened to the car and thought that one day he could claim it.
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It's in his right to claim the money of the car, but no more no less than the price he had it new. It's not because someone famous died in it that he should have a bonus. That would sound like 'Your car has been the place of death of 3 persons. You'll have a little more cause one of them was famous. Bravo!'
It's not like a half eaten apple in which a famous person bit in that you're auctioning on eBay; it's a destroyed car where people died in.

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This whole thing is just so distasteful. Couldn't the car be at least washed to get the stains off it. Ugh.
I'm not aware of such details but I believe they had to keep it as they found it for evidences and points that could have been discussed during the Inquest.
It was the same with JFK's limo. They kept it the exact way it was after the shooting before 're-bodying' it and expose it at the Henry Ford Museum in Dearborn, Michigan.

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This is really tasteless. The car ought to be destroyed and the remains gotten rid of. And what must Henri Paul's poor parents think?
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The inquest is over, and so the car should be washed then.

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I'm not aware of such details but I believe they had to keep it as they found it for evidences and points that could have been discussed during the Inquest.
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Or destroyed. As JFK's limo has an 'historical' background, this Mercedes doesn't have that prestige and I doubt it has its place in a museum or anywhere else than in a scrapyard.
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I'm sure that some would disagree.
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The inquest is over, and so the car should be washed then.
It would certainly lose some of it's 'value' if it was industrially cleaned and sprayed with Sodium Hypochlorite!
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That's true. Says a lot about people's priorities, eh?
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Sarah Palin and Princess Diana : Opinion L.A. : Los Angeles Times

Well, I am surprised that they compared the Princess to that Palin mayor.
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I personally thought that the writer was "stretching." I find it hard to imagine two women with less in common.
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I personally thought that the writer was "stretching." I find it hard to imagine two women with less in common.
I think the article was trying to compare the two women in their haste to commite to marriage and the other to vice president position. To me the article compared the distaster to Diana's marriage and the vice president nomimated Palin's unprepared role to be vice president.
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Oh yes, I understand the point that the author was making.
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