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Old 07-23-2010, 06:37 PM
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If I remember correctly, Pacha sleeps nine passengers. But all of those rooms would be below deck. Remember those photos last year of Caroline peeking through one of the portholes?
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Old 07-23-2010, 08:37 PM
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Here is a link that gives you some information of Pacha III

The 36.24m Camper & Nicholsons Motor Yacht PACHA III - Charterworld Superyacht and Luxury Yacht Charters
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Old 07-23-2010, 09:40 PM
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^That's cool. So Thecia, you're right. It accommodates 9 nine guests, plus for 7 crew.

*Caroline
*Alexandra
*Charlotte
*Andrea
*Pierre
* guest of Andrea
* guest of Charlotte
* guest of Pierre
* stepbrother/friend/cousin/whomever

Anyone else? Better bring a sleeping bag!! kidding!
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Old 07-23-2010, 09:48 PM
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I was going to say Ernst but he was around but theoretically he would have slept in the same bedroom as Caroline... we hope!
What about the little redheaded darling that hangs with Alexandra? Or does she come under the last category? I'd assume that Tatiana, Alex and Bea would sleep in the same rooms as their other halves too. But I didn't think that Pacha had seven crew? I thought there was more like... four or five? So maybe there'd be some extra room for some very lucky friends.
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Old 07-23-2010, 10:54 PM
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^OK, very true about the couples sharing.... like you said, we hope!

So ?

* Andrea & Tatiana
* Char & Alexander
* Pierre & Bea
* Caroline & "guest" (hey, she's a free woman now, right?!)
* Alexandra
* Guest of Alexandra
* Christian
* If Ernst Jr. can't get away from Dubai or wherever, ?JT Besins (he seems to be a regular at the Pacha parties)
* some other lucky snot
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Old 07-25-2010, 04:59 AM
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Old 08-05-2010, 08:00 AM
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[QUOTE=iceflower;1115800]Princess Caroline, her son Pierre and friends seen enjoying a cruise
with their yacht Pacha III around Sardinia, Italy , July 21st 2010 .

Corsica is north of Sardinia; i have only seen Pacha III trackings around Corsica so far. Corsica is French, Sardinia is Italian.
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Old 08-05-2010, 09:56 AM
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Princess Caroline and her daughters at Nice Airport, august 4, 2010
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Old 08-05-2010, 11:25 AM
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Princess Caroline and her daughters at Nice Airport, august 4, 2010
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Uuhhh!! The " girls " look so tanned and healthy. Maybe they're heading to St Remy to spend a few days in the calm shades of the countryside...
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Old 08-05-2010, 12:16 PM
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Princess Caroline and her daughters at Nice Airport, august 4, 2010
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Like I said...I bet Princess Caroline is spending a little R&R time with her girls, and celebrating Charlotte's 24th birthday at the same time.
Great photos! I love how Alex and PC match too...only if Charlotte got that same memo...haha.
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Old 08-05-2010, 12:33 PM
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They all look great, tanned and relaxed.
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Old 08-05-2010, 12:45 PM
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looks like Charlotte got some things at the replay store. They probably went into Monaco..... well, maybe they will spend the weekend in St Remy. It is about that time of year for them, i.e. August/september.

I hope Charlotte had a nice birthday. Nice in Neece. (I know just Nice airport, just saying)
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Old 08-05-2010, 01:38 PM
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Old 08-05-2010, 04:13 PM
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I'm surprised they are going thru security. They should have diplomatic passports. Maybe they are just being good role models.

Charlotte still has her 2 fingers taped.
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Old 08-05-2010, 08:27 PM
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Well, the Casiraghis, and I presume Alex, aren't diplomats and I can recall many pictures of Andrea and Tatiana going through security, even taking off their shoes and putting them in the bins like every other mortal flyer.

Of course..... Andrea does currently work for an embassy, so I may stand to be corrected about him. But as far as I can reason, Pierre, Charlotte, and Alex aren't diplomats.
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Old 08-05-2010, 10:00 PM
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They are all members of the royal family and should thus have diplomatic passports. Stephanie's family also, not sure about Camille, but not the De Masseys.
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They are all members of the royal family and should thus have diplomatic passports. Stephanie's family also, not sure about Camille, but not the De Masseys.
Well, actually they aren't in many respects. There is no reason at all why they should have diplomatic passports.
First, the Grimaldis aren't a royal family,
Second, been a royal famly doesn't give you right to a diplomatic passport if you don't have any political charge, diplomatic passports are for people with political charges.
Third, even if the grimalis were "royal", Caroline and her kid would not be considered part of the royal family. Legally speaking the people who are part of a "royal family" are the king/queen himself, his wife/her husband, and his/her direct descendants. Sisters, brothers, nephew, uncles, etc are not part of the royal family even if they are close relatives of the ruler.
So actually, in Monaco there is no ruling family to speak of. Nobody but Albert (and maybe Charlenne since she is ofially her fiance now) should have diplomatic passports.
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Old 08-06-2010, 12:24 PM
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I couldn't have said it better, trep. I really thought that too. I didn't want to get into an argument though, especially as I don't know anymore about diplomatic passports than anyone. But I really don't see the Casiraghis and little alex have them.
Anyway, even if Caroline has one, everyone has to go through security nowadays. It's the post-911 reality.

I mean , it's a given that albert is a diplomat and has all the immunity it goes with because he is head of state. As for Caroline, it's possible she has diplomatic status through the UNESCO, and through AMADE which has UN NGO status. But..... yes, she is "royal" by courtesy of the German government, and the UN gives her all the international courtesy for being a royal. Maybe....

but again, surely not her children. Unless as I said, Andrea, perhaps through his work at the embassy.... but I doubt it. Albert worked at an embassy too when he was young, but as a lowly intern kind of position, not really as a full blown diplomat.
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Old 08-06-2010, 12:34 PM
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Two questions, ladies: I thought the Grimaldis were considered royalty due to their titles, and running/ruling a principality; also, what embassy is Andrea reported to be working for (France, or does Monaco have an embassy; or, is it another nationality?) - that's interesting, and I hadn't heard that until these posts.
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Old 08-06-2010, 02:14 PM
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^Andrea works in the Qatari embassy in Paris. Qatar and Monaco have increasing links in recent years. Qatar owns some stake in SBM.... actually, they offered to buy much more, but last summer decided against it. It's a very interesting topic but it's off topic so I hope I don't get deleted, but fear it is a good possibility.

The sovereign of Monaco is I think equal to any sovereign in the world, royal or serene in being head of state, but it has been pointed out countless times, even by Caroline herself that her children don't have official status in Monaco. They are members of the Grimaldis' extended family, yes, but this is different from being a prince or princess of Monaco. And the casiraghis and Alexandra have succession rights, as do the Ducruet kids, but..... look at Peter and Zara Phillips in England. They are in the line of succession, and they are members of the Queen's family, but they aren't royal. It's exactly the same with the Casiraghis, and the Ducruets. Even with Alexandra, it's the same, because though she is HRH, this is only a courtesy title. People don't have to recogize it. They can ignore it if they want. But as a diplomatic courtesy, the UN recognize Caroline's HRH.
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