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Old 09-13-2015, 07:02 PM
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Since Victoria made them family friendly they have been doing that No, the press and would have a field day with Harry and his girl shacking up and all the illegitmate rug rats running around. Various sources would should to high heaven about how 'Public' money is paying for this situation, is she a gold digger ?? How he is lowering the moral tone of the RF and all sorts of nonsense.
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Old 09-13-2015, 07:10 PM
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Harry obviously want their future children have the same rights as other members of the Royal Family. It will definitely get married and then will come the children.
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Old 09-13-2015, 07:12 PM
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How do you know this?
Have you seen or even heard of The current BRF having an illegitimate child? Phillip? Any of his sons?


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Old 09-13-2015, 07:23 PM
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and what if as happens in a few years they break up after having kids? If you think Albert gets a lot of flack for his two out of wedlock kids it will be nothing to this!
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Old 09-13-2015, 07:25 PM
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The only people with children born out of wedlock are some of the Lascelles who are descendants of Princess Mary who was George VI sister. They don't really go to Royal events.


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Old 09-13-2015, 07:31 PM
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Whether people understand or accept it or not the monarch is the 'Defender of the Faith and Supreme Governor of the Church of England'....it may have been acceptable decades ago for men to run around siring bastards far and wide but it's not acceptable now.

For the monarch's son's etc to engage in that behavior would cause an issue. Look at what all went on when Charles wanted to marry Camilla.



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Old 09-13-2015, 07:38 PM
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Can we stop calling children/people bastards, please. Forget the Church of England, I find that unacceptable.
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Old 09-13-2015, 07:48 PM
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Whether people understand or accept it or not the monarch is the 'Defender of the Faith and Supreme Governor of the Church of England'....it may have been acceptable decades ago for men to run around siring bastards far and wide but it's not acceptable now.

For the monarch's son's etc to engage in that behavior would cause an issue. Look at what all went on when Charles wanted to marry Camilla.



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Old 09-13-2015, 08:31 PM
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Can we stop calling children/people bastards, please. Forget the Church of England, I find that unacceptable.
I agree. I am bored out of my mind by political correctness in general, but that feels like an ugly way to describe innocent children in the 21st century.

For the record, yes there were/are children born out of wedlock in the modern BRF. Princess Alexandra's daughter Marina Ogilvy Mowatt went this route and as someone else pointed out there are the Lascelles.

The Windsors might not have as many "illegitimate" children as they did in the past but it is absurd to pretend that they operate on some higher moral plane. Fornication, pre marital shacking up,adultery and divorce is just as much the status quo in this particular Royal family as any other and in a few comparisons it's worse than other Royal families.
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Old 09-13-2015, 08:55 PM
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Marina was on the way to having an illegitimate child but she married before the child was actually born - married in February and child born in May.


I remember there was an outcry at the time that she was going to have this child out of wedlock and so pressure was brought to bear on her to marry the child's father before the child was born (Zenouska was the child by the way). The couple were only married for 7 years and had the two children. Zenouska is currently 55th in the line of succession to the throne ahead of any of the descendants of Princess Mary, George V's daughter.
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Old 09-13-2015, 08:56 PM
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But Illegimate children are not. Even with the worst of the queens children's behavior they never crossed that line. Those people mentioned are so far down the line it is ludicrous to compare them with senior Royal family and the way they operate.
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Old 09-13-2015, 09:07 PM
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I suppose it's commendable that they didn't "cross that line" but I still don't see what is so much worse about children out of wedlock than open adultery?

Both scenarios involve the destruction of or the flouting of societal and religious norms regarding the sanctity of marriage and family.

But the point is moot. Harry has stated publically that in due time he wants a WIFE and children, not a live-in mistress and children.
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Old 09-13-2015, 09:38 PM
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The unwed royals have their "getting the cookie time", but are very careful and pretty responsible.
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Old 09-13-2015, 10:40 PM
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Well no children born out of wedlock that we know about !!!! 😉


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Old 09-13-2015, 11:13 PM
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Have you seen or even heard of The current BRF having an illegitimate child? Phillip? Any of his sons?


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There has been at least one unsubstantiated claim about Charles.

There has also been the child of Mark Philip's while still married to Anne. This one is confirmed by DNA testing.

There have been rumours about Philip for years - that he is the father of Helene Cordet's children for instance.

None have been substantiated but the rumours are there nonetheless.
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Old 09-13-2015, 11:33 PM
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Rumors and claims are a dime a dozen. I would take them with a whole Dead Sea full of salt.
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Old 09-13-2015, 11:46 PM
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Rumors and claims are a dime a dozen. I would take them with a whole Dead Sea full of salt.
Especially if you're being paid to tell to them without proof
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Old 09-14-2015, 12:10 AM
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It's pretty much an open secret that the current Queen's late flamboyant, drug addicted uncle George Duke of Kent was the father of Michael Canfield, adopted son of publisher Cass Canfield.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...l-parents.html

Michael was the first husband of Lee Bouvier Radziwill, sister of Jacqueline Bouvier Kennedy.

But it's as royal rob said...there are no out-of-wedlock children in the current BRF that the we the public know about.
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Old 09-14-2015, 12:25 AM
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Soo... You are surmising Without any proof whatsoever that some Roysls might possibly have hidden away illegitimate kids and trying to argue because of these unproven kids it would be perfectly normal and/or fine for Harry to do the same?

Allrighty then.
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Old 09-14-2015, 12:37 AM
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Nope...not at all. A few posts up I admitted that Harry has even said that he wants a wife and children.

My comments were in response to the claims of a couple of posters that there are no children born out of wedlock among senior Royals in the BRF. That might be true, but none of us know that with 100% certainty.

How can we?
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