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Old 02-21-2014, 03:26 AM
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Congratulations to Princess Madeleine and Mr. Chris O'Neill !
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Old 02-21-2014, 03:27 AM
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Great news. Congratulations to The Princess and Mr O'Neill ! :) I will have a blue and yellow princess cake for lunch to celebrate both the Princess couple and our swedish athletes competing in Sochi today :)
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It doesnt get into my head why they would publicly confirm their incompetence. 'we don't know this yet we don't know that yet', why don't they just keep their mouth shut and say something when they actually know.
And yes, Madeleine did not give birth out of the blue, so they should know by now about the citizenship, line of succession etc.
Hahaha stay calm folks, it's just the press departement of the swedish royal court and they still have the same stupid people there who worked during Nina Eldh and Bertil Ternert so we shouldn't expect too much from them :-D

Hopefully the new chief press secretary from next month Margareta Thorgren will have a say about who should work there.
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Old 02-21-2014, 03:46 AM
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Congratulations to the new parents! Wonderful news indeed.
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Old 02-21-2014, 03:49 AM
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What lovely news! Glad that they are both doing well. Cant wait to know what she will be named.
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Old 02-21-2014, 03:59 AM
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Aftonbladet has a bad photo of Chris walking outside the hospital, he came to take some fresh air hours after his daughter was born. Aftonbladet's reporter says that he looked tired: "-He went out, made a call to someone, smoked a cigarette and went back inside", says Jenny Nordlander.
Chris tog en nypa luft Kungligt Nyheter Aftonbladet
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Old 02-21-2014, 04:00 AM
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YAY! Congrats to Princess Madeleine and Chris.

Princess Estelle has a cousin to play with now
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Old 02-21-2014, 04:10 AM
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YAY! Congrats to Princess Madeleine and Chris.

Princess Estelle has a cousin to play with now
Yes, Estelle has a cousin to play with when Madeleine and Chris are in Sweden.

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Marianne Bernadotte congratulates the couple, says that the name should come from the family and then Désirée would be good.
Marianne will attend at Te Deum.
Marianne Bernadotte om namnvalet Nyheter Expressen Senaste nytt - Nyheter Sport Nöje TV
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Old 02-21-2014, 04:18 AM
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Congratulation to Madeleine and Chris and a warm welcome to the little girl!!!
about the citizenship: the baby was born in New York therefore, given the American laws (ius soli), she's been granted American citizenship. Now we just have to know if she will also be a Swedish citizen
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Old 02-21-2014, 04:19 AM
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I think that she will have both citizenship, American and Swedish, she will grown up in Ney York but her family ties will be in Sweden...but to me she will be an Amercian girl, she will have education in Manhatan and she will be a new york girl...
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Old 02-21-2014, 04:42 AM
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Congratulation to the couple :)
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Old 02-21-2014, 04:50 AM
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Congratulations to the new parents.

I am a follower of the Danish and British royal families but have a good knowledge of the Swedish family too.

My question is: surely the questions of title, citizenship etc must have been sorted out over the past months. Why does the press office seem so unsure of things? Is the problem that the country of birth is not Sweden or is it that Mr O'Neill is not a "working" member of the royal house?
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Old 02-21-2014, 04:58 AM
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Great news! Congratulations to Madde and Chris! So it seems to be a natural birth right?
And if the time is local it means that she gave birth just a couple of hours ago! So cute! <3
Can't wait for more detailes such as weight, name etc
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Old 02-21-2014, 05:03 AM
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Congratulations to the new parents.

I am a follower of the Danish and British royal families but have a good knowledge of the Swedish family too.

My question is: surely the questions of title, citizenship etc must have been sorted out over the past months. Why does the press office seem so unsure of things? Is the problem that the country of birth is not Sweden or is it that Mr O'Neill is not a "working" member of the royal house?
About the citizenship, that Chris isn't an official member of the royal house, doesn't matter. But there are many things to be considered regarding the girl's place in the Order of Succession.
And Madeleine can be counted to have a diplomatic status. If she is counted as a diplomat, there are/has been regulations about the children born to diplomats in USA. Chris doesn't have that status and he has dual citizenship, both American and British.
Does some of our American members know better about the citizenship concerning diplomat's children born in USA?

Chris will meet the media at 12.00 local time at the hospital.
Mr Christopher O'Neill will meet with media - Sveriges Kungahus
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Old 02-21-2014, 05:04 AM
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She is automatically a U.S. citizen, and I can't imagine she is not entitled or automatically a Swedish citizen.
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Will we be able to watch live ?
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Princess Madeleine and Mr Christopher O
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Old 02-21-2014, 05:21 AM
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About the citizenship, that Chris isn't an official member of the royal house, doesn't matter. But there are many things to be considered regarding the girl's place in the Order of Succession.
And Madeleine can be counted to have a diplomatic status. If she is counted as a diplomat, there are/has been regulations about the children born to diplomats in USA. Chris doesn't have that status and he has dual citizenship, both American and British.
Does some of our American members know better about the citizenship concerning diplomat's children born in USA?

Chris will meet the media at 12.00 local time at the hospital.
Mr Christopher O'Neill will meet with media - Sveriges Kungahus
I have just looked up your question on U.S. citizenship, as I have never heard of the foreign diplomat exclusion. We Americans are under the assumption that if you happen to be born here, for whatever reason, you're a citizen. It's true that children of illegal immigrants are citizens if born here.

From a cursory search, it appears that this might be true in theory, and might have been the original intent of our citizenship provisions - but not in practice. In other words, the practice could come under challenge, but I doubt it would be nixed.

I'm quoting from a private site: "According to U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services, a 'birth certificate provides proof of citizenship.' The agency is careful to note that it '[does] not issue any kind of citizenship document to a person who is a citizen by birth in the United States.'"

Having filled out birth certificates, it's true that parents citizenship status or residence status is not asked. So I would say once the birth certificate is registered, unless challenged, this baby will henceforth be considered a citizen. And I doubt anyone would challenge it, except maybe the Swedish court if they want to ensure no issues to her being in the line of succession.

Edit: If Chris is a U.S. citizen, I'm virtually certain that the baby is a citizen, despite a mother here on diplomat status. So my comment on Madde was moot.
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Old 02-21-2014, 05:22 AM
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Aftonbladet's royal expert Jenny Alexandersson said at Aftonbladet's live-TV, that this birth isn't as important as Estelle's birth. Then the future queen of Sweden was born. The birth of Madeleine's daughter is more like a celebrity birth. The paparazzis are following Madeleine. But Alexandersson is very happy for Madeleine, she has now got the child she has wanted for a long time.
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