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I would think that the only name that William has dibs on is Elizabeth. Peter could have used it as a first name for Isla especially since she was born in the diamond jubilee year but its only a middle name for her.

It seems that the royals tend not to use a name if its already in use by someone in the family . Like Harry isn't going to name his son George. The only exceptions are probably Philip and Elizabeth since they won't be a great overlap in lifespans


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QEQM certainly did not shy away frmo naming the then Princess Elizabeth, even knowing that down the road 2 Queen Elizabeths at one time would be confusing
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Old 09-09-2014, 06:14 PM
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Princess Victoria of Hesse was Prince Philip's grandmother and Princess Alice of Battenberg was his mother, which is another reason I have a hunch a girl might be Victoria or Alice. It would be a way to please the very elderly Prince Philip without being too obvious about it. I also would bet that Elizabeth will be a middle name and not a first.

Victoria Alice Elizabeth?

I also took a look at the Online Gotha and Arthur is a name that Charles and William and Queen Elizabeth's father King George all had as a middle name. I thought Frederick might be an obvious choice, but I forgot about Prince William's cousin Freddie, whom he probably grew up with. Would he want his son to have a name in common with a childhood playmate? Arthur would be quite a nice name for a brother of George.
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Old 09-09-2014, 06:21 PM
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Perhaps its worth considering Diana's maiden name because Spencer is a boy's name too.
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Do we know any names Charles and Diana had picked out for a girl? There may be a clue there.

I mostly want a girl because I think it would make the Prince of Wales so happy


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Old 09-09-2014, 06:53 PM
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Possible names for the 2nd child of the Duke & Duchess of Cambridge

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QEQM certainly did not shy away frmo naming the then Princess Elizabeth, even knowing that down the road 2 Queen Elizabeths at one time would be confusing
They didn't known that either one would be Queen when Elizabeth was born. HM The Queen is always the reigning monarch or consort versus HM Queen Name is a dowager when being addressed.

Plus if Margaret would have been a boy, he would have bumped Elizabeth down a spot.


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Old 09-09-2014, 06:57 PM
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QEQM certainly did not shy away frmo naming the then Princess Elizabeth, even knowing that down the road 2 Queen Elizabeths at one time would be confusing
When the then Princess Elizabeth was born, the Duchess of York did not know she (or her daughter) would one day be Queen. King Edward VIII did not abdicate until the current Queen was 10 years old.
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Old 09-09-2014, 07:40 PM
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I don't think John will ever come up as a first name for the British royals. Because of the connotations of bad King John they've kept away from the name for heirs.

Also it's had its sad links over the years--George V and Queen Mary's youngest son was ill and died young. Edward and Alexandra's youngest son had John as one of his first names and died soon after birth. If the family feel there is any bad luck involved then they won't use it.
I've read this before. I would think "Charles" would have more negative connotations within the British Royal Family than would "John."
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While Charles I lost his head, Charles II was restored to the throne. William is not going to consider his father's name as bad.


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Do we know any names Charles and Diana had picked out for a girl? There may be a clue there.

I mostly want a girl because I think it would make the Prince of Wales so happy


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I once read - don't remember where - that they would have named their daughter Eleanor.
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Perhaps its worth considering Diana's maiden name because Spencer is a boy's name too.

Personally can't see a Prince Spencer.
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I read something a few years back that William liked the name Alice. I have a hunch that if it is a girl, Alice will be a name used. I don't think that there will be another Princess Diana anytime soon.

As for a boy, since Andrew and Harry have Albert in there, I will bet that Albert is used. William and Kate seem traditional, so I don't think that they will buck the tradition started by Granny and continued by Mum!
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Old 09-09-2014, 08:24 PM
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QEQM certainly did not shy away frmo naming the then Princess Elizabeth, even knowing that down the road 2 Queen Elizabeths at one time would be confusing
When the current Queen was born she was the first child of the second son.

A number of scenarios would have been expected to play out to take her out of that position.

1. the eldest son married and had any child - didn't happen but was still expected to happen in 1926

2. her parents would have another child - possibly a boy - in which case she goes down again

Imagine if Andrew had married before Charles and had Beatrice - who would expect her to be Queen - no one and she is in the same position - the elder child of the second son although she was born after the first son had had children and so was never as high in the line of succession as Elizabeth was.

However, in 1926, no one expected the present Queen to become Queen (surmised that it was possible of course but it wasn't expected).

As a result naming her after her mother wasn't an issue as the expectation was that one would remain HRH The Duchess of York while Elizabeth would spend her life as HRH Princess Elizabeth of York, until marriage and then be HRH Princess Elizabeth, Mrs xxxx/husband's title.
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If the baby is a girl Elizabeth or Diana.

If the baby is a boy Michael or David
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Catherine's great-great-grandfather was named John Harrison.
Catherine's great-great-great-great-grandfather was named John Goldsmith.
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Old 09-09-2014, 09:04 PM
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Do we know any names Charles and Diana had picked out for a girl? There may be a clue there.

I mostly want a girl because I think it would make the Prince of Wales so happy


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I once read - don't remember where - that they would have named their daughter Eleanor.
I heard Alexandra - which is why I think they will go with that one this time

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I read something a few years back that William liked the name Alice. I have a hunch that if it is a girl, Alice will be a name used. I don't think that there will be another Princess Diana anytime soon.

As for a boy, since Andrew and Harry have Albert in there, I will bet that Albert is used. William and Kate seem traditional, so I don't think that they will buck the tradition started by Granny and continued by Mum!
I heard Alice too, along with Rose and Mary. Alice Rose - that's really lovely
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I once read - don't remember where - that they would have named their daughter Eleanor.
But it was Diana who really loved Eleanor, wasn't it? Because IIRC, I've heard that Charles had "saved" Victoria as a first name in case he had a daughter. So I reckon Charles favoured Victoria for a daughter and Diana Eleanor.
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But it was Diana who really loved Eleanor, wasn't it? Because IIRC, I've heard that Charles had "saved" Victoria as a first name in case he had a daughter. So I reckon Charles favoured Victoria for a daughter and Diana Eleanor.
Okay, I was wrong on Charles and Diana - I DID hear Victoria, not Elizabeth. Although I do have to go with Diana on this one, Eleanor at the time was different. It's still a lovely name, but it seems to be the new IT name for princesses.
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These names - Alfred and Alicia(Alice) are my favorite british royal names
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I read something a few years back that William liked the name Alice. I have a hunch that if it is a girl, Alice will be a name used. I don't think that there will be another Princess Diana anytime soon.

As for a boy, since Andrew and Harry have Albert in there, I will bet that Albert is used. William and Kate seem traditional, so I don't think that they will buck the tradition started by Granny and continued by Mum!

Going back further:

Prince Albert was himself a second son
Prince Alfred had Albert in his names
Prince George (George V) also had Albert in his names
and then there is George V's own second son - Prince Albert (who became George VI)

That makes 6 out of the last 7 generations having Albert as one of the names of the second son and the only reason the 7th didn't was that there were two girls.

I am of course only looking at the second son of monarchs and not at other children who may have Albert in their names as well.
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