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Old 07-22-2016, 04:59 AM
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^^^^ if is protocol then of course there will be those times.... But curious does his father use that title now outside of Scotland?
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Old 07-22-2016, 05:13 AM
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^^^^ if is protocol then of course there will be those times.... But curious does his father use that title now outside of Scotland?
I think the current Laird does not use the title by himself. Usually a titled gentlemen will not refer to himself with a title. Also not in correspondence. The Laird will most likely only have "Glen Affric" or a small monogram in the letterhead and simply sign it as "Matthews".
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Old 07-22-2016, 05:19 AM
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? Camill has a sister, so had Diana. THeir sisters are not always in the news.. SHe's not of interest....

I think once the wedding and babies have come along the only ones interested in her will be some people on this forum.


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Old 07-22-2016, 09:01 AM
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Like her or not, Pippa is a very accomplished athlete and I anticipate that she'll continue to do charity sports feats for the Matthews Foundation and will continue to get press for them.

In particular, the first marathon sporting event she completes after having a child will receive press.
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Old 07-22-2016, 09:56 AM
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It's not about like her or not it's about her not being royal so hopefully she can have a life without media following her every move like everyone else. The press don't follow Camilla sister or Diana's sisters if she had been married at the time of Kate's wedding we would hardly see any news about her at all.


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Old 07-22-2016, 10:42 AM
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You really can't compare Diana's sisters to Pippa and the situation now.

The media and world has very much changed when it comes to coverage. Diana's sisters were all older and married...very low profile. Then Diana and Charles had years of strife so the focus was all on them. Diana was not particularly close to her sisters either.

Pippa will always be watched due to who she's related to and how close she is to her family (her sister, future Queen, BIL future King and her nephew future King...not to mention the princess niece).

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Old 07-22-2016, 11:46 AM
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I think one of the finest things about Pippa an her immediate family is that they take repeated chucks on the jaw and just keep on keeping on. It shows resilience and maturity, IMO.

I agree!

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Old 07-22-2016, 01:01 PM
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Interest will slowly fade away but the British media landscape is overcdowded with newspapers, tabloids, magazines, tv-channels and websites, all competing with each other. They are also in English, so waaaay more potential readers or viewers than in every other language. For the sake of Philippa, I hope she can enjoy great life in beautiful Scotland.
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Old 07-22-2016, 01:52 PM
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I don't think Pippa will be spending her days in Scotland. Glen Affric is rented for people to stay at. James's parents don't live there. Her family will be near London and James's company trades in the City.


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Old 07-22-2016, 06:10 PM
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You really can't compare Diana's sisters to Pippa and the situation now.

Pippa will always be watched due to who she's related to and how close she is to her family (her sister, future Queen, BIL future King and her nephew future King...not to mention the princess niece).

You can't put the genie back into the bottle.


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well you can, one hopes. Far as I can see a lot of the attention on PHilippa is to do with her single status and her being willing to be seen out there "doing things".. She is IMO courting media attention. But I think once she's not single, unless she ends up divorced the attention will fade away. She's not very interesting, and once she's a little older and married, people wont watch her. Besides I think a lot of the attention she gets is negative.. People and the Press see her and the Middletons as pushy, and looking for notice and once she has passed the young and single stage, she's not going to be noticed any more..

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It's not about like her or not it's about her not being royal so hopefully she can have a life without media following her every move like everyone else. The press don't follow Camilla sister or Diana's sisters if she had been married at the time of Kate's wedding we would hardly see any news about her at all.


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I dont believe that she or James dont want Media attention. They both seem to court it. but a lot of it is unkind IMO. The press aren't writing stories of how lovely they are, it is more to set them up to be jeered at for failure at business or "starting yet another job" or dating someone else in P's case.. THe Press tends to see the Middletons as a pushy family who don't know how to behave, s a lot of the coverage is to reflect that..
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Old 07-22-2016, 07:26 PM
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Just to get this on the record, I don't see her as pushy. I don't think she tells the press ahead of time where she will be, so that they can take her picture. That's what I see as pushy. I do think the paps get tips about her from restaurants and airline check-ins - but those come from people associated with those locations rather than Pippa, herself.
I do think she participates in charity events and for good reason puts that out there. It draws eyes to charities.
I do think the paps watch her - particularity at times when they think she will be out and about (the horses, Wimbledon, walking the dog, hitting the gym - she does have a predictable schedule).
I think the press overreacted to the wedding response and she took advantage of being in the limelight to make money and write publicly while she was "hot". Just like lots of celebs who pen books when in the limelight.
That phase of her life seems to be over and she recognized that pretty quickly - she is not a stupid woman. She's on to other things in life.
Anyone who wants to believe that she is a social sycophant can do so. I just see her as a fairly typical young woman of her social set and age, if a bit on the dull side.
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I don't see Pippa as pushy either.
If she was, she'd be giving lots of interviews about wedding plans, etc. but she isn't.

When she and James made the announcement, there were comments about Who do they think they are? Yet, prior to that, there was so much speculation about an engagement!


I suspect there'll be some article about the Middletons in the press from now until the wedding; there's one in the DM again today comparing Carole to Jane Matthews.

As always, it's generated hundreds of comments, and every one means more advertising revenue for the paper. Which means more articles! It's a vicious cycle!
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Old 07-23-2016, 01:49 PM
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For some reason the sisters always remind me of Jackie Kennedy and her sister Lee .... I don't see pippa pushy either she is just a young woman in the spotlight
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Old 07-23-2016, 03:38 PM
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Sadly, the media dubbed the Middleton family as pushy. Their idea is that Mrs. Middleton is the head pusher.

That's not what this family about and Pippa is doing good for herself. I wish her the best in this very big step in her life. There are no fairy tales involved here.
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The press also dubbed Princess Michael of Kent, 'Princess Pushy'. Imagine having that handle.

Living well is the best revenge. Pippa has a life few of us can dream of. Summers at Wimbledon, holidays in Mustique and St Barts. Don't forget the ski trips to France and Switzerland. On top of that she does a lot for charity.

I love Pippa because she drives the keyboard warriors mad. I hope she has a long and prosperous life.
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of course seh's rich, but that's not any of her doing. it is because her parents earned the money. And as far as I can see much of thte press coverage of her is sneering. But I dont suppose she cares
I really dont wish anything for her other than she disappears inot relative obscurity, and I think that will happen...
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Old 07-23-2016, 11:00 PM
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Does it really matter if she rides into the sunset of obscurity or is forevermore chronicled if she happen to burp at an inopportune moment? Ultimately, its our own personal decisions who we want to know about and who we don't want to know about.

I wouldn't know a Kardasian if one sat next to me on a bus.
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Does it really matter if she rides into the sunset of obscurity or is forevermore chronicled if she happen to burp at an inopportune moment? Ultimately, its our own personal decisions who we want to know about and who we don't want to know about.

I wouldn't know a Kardasian if one sat next to me on a bus.
If a Kardasian sat next to me on a bus I'd get up and move to a different seat.
Perhaps that's why I don't see Pippa or the Middletons as pushy - here in the USA we have families like the Ks and compared to them the Middletons, even including Uncle Gary, are discretion personified.
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but the Kardashians are the sort of people you expect to be making a living out of being famous for being famous.. Isn't one of them famous for having a large backside? You DONT expect it from the sister of the POWs sons wife. (OK Pippa isn't as bad as the Ks or their like). but she IS in te news and just now she's hard to completely avoid..
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