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Old 10-17-2017, 07:45 PM
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I think taking the children was never on the plan. It was a five-day tour, unlike the Australia/NZ trip and the children are in school and pre-school. To be honest I wonder if Catherine will even go in early 2018 being heavily pregnant until April sometime and then with a brand new baby. I don't see Catherine feeling up to it or wanting to do it.

She went to New York when she was pregnant with Charlotte. If her health is good she’ll definitely go.
As for her ‘not wanting to go’, I kind of doubt that would be even given a passing though by the powers that be.



I highly doubt any royal lady wanted to do tours and international trips when pregnant, yet they do them because it’s their job and they have to.
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Old 10-17-2017, 07:48 PM
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Piecing together the information on the original plan - they were being asked to do 3 countries in 5 days.

That is a lot of travelling in a short period of time plus if the tour is to have any value then in has to have a reasonable level of content. So little time to recover....

And I think travelling might be the issue for Catherine. The Palace reception -it wasn't too far or she arrived early in order to ensure she was fit to attend. At Paddington, not too far and she could have bailed out as she wasn't slated to attend. But once you start a tour, that's it.

I think also that she is having a tougher time than with Charlotte. She looks worn out.

So its playing safe. Best all round really.
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Old 10-17-2017, 07:49 PM
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ETA - in response to Rudolph...Indeed, it has only been in the early stage of the pregnancies that Catherine has been ill - throughout the remainder of the pregnancies she has been fit, well and healthy right up to the last engagements she did.
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Old 10-17-2017, 08:03 PM
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I think also that she is having a tougher time than with Charlotte. She looks worn out.

So it's playing safe. Best all round really.
The older you get the harder a pregnancy is on the body. There can be a big difference between being pregnant at 30 and at 35.

And from everything I’ve read, HG tends to get worse with each subsequent pregnancy.
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Old 10-17-2017, 08:18 PM
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But what we don't know is if she really wanted to go or The Queen or Charles or William insisted she go and rescheduled the trip.
I think it’s Catherine really want to make this trip. It’s best that it’s been rescheduled.

I’m not talking about she’s going to kill somebody if she don’t go. Just saying that she wanna be well enough to go.
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Old 10-17-2017, 08:34 PM
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But what we don't know is if she really wanted to go or The Queen or Charles or William insisted she go and rescheduled the trip.
Maybe William would rather not go? Or maybe Harry has no interest in going to Denmark either? Probably Andrew rather stays home every day instead of going on his many travels? It seems rather pointless to discuss whether they really want to go or that someone else wants them to go.

I assume their opinions are taken into account to a certain extent but it is not only up to them - it is always a combination of things: there is a reason to go and it is thought best that royal(s) X take(s) on that duty and they are ok with it - sometimes they might have been looking forward to do it for a long time and other times it is mostly out of duty.

In this specific case, I am quite sure that if Catherine and her doctors thought that it would be a bad idea, they would not have rescheduled to allow for her to join William. At the same time, I am sure the government is happy that she is willing to go (and feels up to it) early 2018 as the trip will get far more press attention if William is joined by his wife!
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But what we don't know is if she really wanted to go or The Queen or Charles or William insisted she go and rescheduled the trip.
Catherine did a lot of engagements while pregnant with George and Charlotte after she was no longer suffering from HG. If the Finland centennial wasn't this year they probably would have rescheduled the whole trip. She managed to fly to New York and attend engagements while pregnant, I doubt a trip to Norway and Sweden will be any more difficult, actually less so as the flights are much shorter.
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Maybe William would rather not go? Or maybe Harry has no interest in going to Denmark either? Probably Andrew rather stays home every day instead of going on his many travels? It seems rather pointless to discuss whether they really want to go or that someone else wants them to go.

I assume their opinions are taken into account to a certain extent but it is not only up to them - it is always a combination of things: there is a reason to go and it is thought best that royal(s) X take(s) on that duty and they are ok with it - sometimes they might have been looking forward to do it for a long time and other times it is mostly out of duty.

In this specific case, I am quite sure that if Catherine and her doctors thought that it would be a bad idea, they would not have rescheduled to allow for her to join William. At the same time, I am sure the government is happy that she is willing to go (and feels up to it) early 2018 as the trip will get far more press attention if William is joined by his wife!
Excellent points--I'm sure every royal has engagements they'd rather not take on.
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Old 10-18-2017, 12:39 AM
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I don't think any pregnant woman should be forced to travel. I realize we all find ourselves having to work while pregnant, but air travel, and all that public standing and walking and stuff, no. Let her be. JMO.
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Old 10-18-2017, 01:12 AM
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I would sincerely hope the trip is January or early February latest.

Yes she travelled pregnant with Charlotte but that was early December. When it comes to pregnancies, a month is a huge difference. While you can fly up to 36 weeks, some even say 34. Technically since they wont be flying commercial there is less risk, she will be able to move around more, access to fluids when ever needed and so on. But all that travel say at even 7 months, 2 countries in what four days, wont be easy on a pregnant woman.

I don't see the kids going. They wont take George and Charlotte out of school. And such a short trip. And with Kate being heavily pregnant at the time, even with a nanny along, it wouldn't be easy to have two toddlers along as well.
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It's only about a two hour flight from London to Oslo and 2 1/2 hours London to Stockholm. I'm sure they discussed all this with Kate's doctor and when details are planned for the trip they will take the pregnancy into consideration.
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Old 10-18-2017, 02:56 AM
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One thing we will never know is exactly how they feel about doing these tours or if they really, really want to go or really, really abhor the thought of leaving home. Its futile to even try and guess what their personal feelings are.

I do not think they will take the kids at all. This is "work". The kids have gone with them on trips before to know what Mommy and Daddy are doing and most likely will stay home happily with nanny Maria. Its nice to take the kids when a trip isn't too hectic and there are things that would appeal to children but, lets face it, this isn't a family on parade. Its senior royals from the House of Windsor visiting their counterparts in other countries at the behest of the Foreign Office.

And to be truthful, even Kate couldn't tell us right now how she is going to be feeling when the time for the tour approaches. Each pregnancy is unique and its a day by day thing and when the HG is bad, its an hour by hour thing.
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Offering an insight into the wedding of the century is former royal editor and biographer Duncan Larcombe who was one of the 1,900 guests.

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The Cambridge family spotted at Chester Railway Station on Sunday

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Thanks for sharing eya. It looks as if the Cambridges were privately visiting Chester, probably just for a fun day out, as William and Catherine are both in jeans and casual jumpers.
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More likely visiting Duke of Westminster and his family. Eaton Hall, the family seat near Chester for Bonfire weekend. The current Duke is Godfather to George and the Dowager Duchess is William’s godmother.
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More likely visiting Duke of Westminster and his family. Eaton Hall, the family seat near Chester for Bonfire weekend. The current Duke is Godfather to George and the Dowager Duchess is William’s godmother.


In other words a fun day out, as I had said, but also where visiting friends is also in the equation. Particularly given the fact that they visited during the Bonfire Night weekend, it all adds up.
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In other words a fun day out, as I had said, but also where visiting friends is also in the equation. Particularly given the fact that they visited during the Bonfire Night weekend, it all adds up.
I’ve always wanted to go to a Bonfire Night event.
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I’ve always wanted to go to a Bonfire Night event.


Oh, if you’re ever in the UK in early November you should definitely go to one! There would probably be a display at the park nearest to your hotel/apartment as they are very popular over here. Fireworks are also very easy to make “homemade” displays out of - this year I invited some friends round, and we lit a bonfire in my garden and set of rockets and had sparklers on the go as well. I love late October/early November because the time between Halloween and Bonfire Night here in England is always super fun!
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