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Old 08-10-2016, 10:29 PM
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If Ms Medforth Mills were not be interested to continue the mission of her two aunts in Bucharest it would be the 4th grandchild of the King that was in the line wanted by the Family that won't be envolved anymore.
And what does that matter when you see the whole family as illegitimate in their role as Royal Family and continuation of the royal dynasty in Romania?
What is the point of attacking yet another member of the Royal Family, when all she has done, is be absent from an emotional and trying occasion, a public funeral for a grandmother?
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What is your source?

Was she the only of the five Princesses to have Hohenzollern as their surname?

Are you sure her surname was not "de Roumanie"? That is how she was registered when she attended the University of Edinburgh.
She had a case in Switzerland and she finally succeeded to change her birth certificate later in life.
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Old 08-10-2016, 10:31 PM
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She had a case in Switzerland and she finally succeeded to change her birth certificate later in life.

So you are admitting that Margarita was the only one of the five princesses to be born a "von Hohenzollern"?
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Old 08-10-2016, 10:33 PM
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So you are admitting that Margarita was the only one of the five princesses to be born a "von Hohenzollern"?
I do not how fir sure how Princess Rlena and Irina were registered when they were born. The two youngest were certainly not with the surname of Hohenzollern.
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Old 08-10-2016, 10:37 PM
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I do not how fir sure how Princess Rlena and Irina were registered when they were born. The two youngest were certainly not with the surname of Hohenzollern.

Right. Can you explain to fellow posters why it was that Margarita had to be registered as a "von Hohenzollern" at her birth in Switzerland? You were already presumably aware that this was not, in fact, the wish of the King?
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Old 08-10-2016, 10:38 PM
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How can anybody support such a line that has not obviously any interest in the young generation of that Family?
How can anyone support a line that has none, zilch, nada interest from the ones in it? Please point to one, just one, Hohenzollern who is interested in going to Romania and advocating restoring the constitution of 1923 and sidelining the Royal Family. Just one is enough.

Surely that can't be hard. You're very adept at finding a member of the Royal Family daily who makes a decision you don't like, and this time, the target of your campaign is a woman who is living a private life and does not want to attend a very public funeral.
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Old 08-10-2016, 10:39 PM
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Right. Can you explain to fellow posters why it was that Margarita had to be registered as a "von Hohenzollern" at her birth in Switzerland? You were already presumably aware that this was not, in fact, the wish of the King?
It was not the King that wanted this to happen but the swiss authorities probably wanted to avoid any trouble with the romanian authorities.
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Old 08-10-2016, 10:42 PM
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It was not the King that wanted this to happen but the swiss authorities probably wanted to avoid any trouble with the romanian authorities.

Yet you seem to support the appeasing view that the then Swiss government took to not offend Romanian Communists who had driven His Majesty from his people over that same patriotic and devoted King who merely wanted to underscore the ties of his new family to his country by ensuring that his children bore its name. Why do you have that position?
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Old 08-10-2016, 10:44 PM
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Yet you seem to support the appeasing view that the then Swiss government took to not offend Romanian Communists who had driven His Majesty from his people over that same patriotic and devoted King who merely wanted to underscore the ties of his new family to his country by ensuring that his children bore its name. Why do you have that position?
The interests of the swiss authorities were obvious.
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Old 08-10-2016, 10:46 PM
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The interests of the swiss authorities were obvious.

But why do you support it? You claim to be a monarchist, yet you do not seem remotely interested (anymore, that is) in supporting and upholding the stated agenda of King Michael. It is all very strange.
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Old 08-10-2016, 10:51 PM
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But why do you support it? You claim to be a monarchist, yet you do not seem remotely interested (anymore, that is) in supporting and upholding the stated agenda of King Michael. It is all very strange.
I have always admired the King but I suppose we can't agree with everything a person does.
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Old 08-10-2016, 11:01 PM
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I have always admired the King but I suppose we can't agree with everything a person does.
Except it isn't about supporting everything 'a person' does, in this case, the titular King, the living embodiment of the monarchy in Romania and head of the Royal Family. It's about not criticizing and attacking every decision made, every person involved, reducing every member of the family of the King, not accepting or understanding any decision made, even when they're explained, based on facts and logic and just continually trashing everything that involves the King and his family.

There is nobody else in Romania representing the monarchy other than the Royal Family, and nothing good or useful for the cause of monarchy can come from attacking everything about them.
I have yet to see a post from you going back several years now, where you have said anything positive about or even been slightly understanding towards any member of the Royal Family.
Even a young woman who is unable to attend the funeral of her grandmother, for whatever reasons, has her motives questioned and critiqued.
Since there is nothing monarchist about that behaviour, what is it actually all for?
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Old 08-10-2016, 11:04 PM
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Of course, it is impossible to always be of the same mind. However, it seems as though you have allowed your dislike of Prince Radu, who is only the husband of the Crown Princess and who has no children (i.e. thus his influence on the family will end whenever he dies), to totally pollute your view of the entire Royal Family. I think that this is unfortunate, because you used to be one of the biggest supporters of the King, the Royal Family and its mission.
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Old 08-10-2016, 11:07 PM
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Of course, it is impossible to always be of the same mind. However, it seems as though you have allowed your dislike of Prince Radu, who is only the husband of the Crown Princess and who has no children (i.e. thus his influence on the family will end whenever he dies), to totally pollute your view of the entire Royal Family. I think that this is unfortunate, because you used to be one of the biggest supporters of the King, the Royal Family and its mission.
I will always be a big supporter if the King that remains a symbol of dignity. On the same time we can't ignore reality and the challenges ahead for the return of monarchy.
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Old 08-10-2016, 11:09 PM
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I will always be a big supporter if the King that remains a symbol of dignity. On the same time we can't ignore reality and the challenges ahead for the return of monarchy.
There have always been challenges and there always will be.

I am glad to read that you will always be a supporter of the King.

I hope that you will also be a supporter of Prince Nicholas, Karina's brother, whose admiration and love for his family, especially his grandparents, and for Romanians is unquestionable.
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I strongly believe Ms Medforth Mills brother is the only one who could bring a lot of support for the Family in the future.
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Old 08-10-2016, 11:16 PM
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Nicholas is the only one who can inspire a great deal of sympathy and support in the future for the monarchy itself.

He is the sole hope for the continuation of the dynasty.

All Romanian monarchists should support his return.
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Old 08-10-2016, 11:20 PM
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Even those who are in favour of the Hohenzollerns have a lot of sympathy for him. Certainly they believe he could continue the family activities better than his sister.
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Old 08-10-2016, 11:27 PM
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He is the only person who the majority of Romanians would ever accept as Head of the Royal House after the King and Crown Princess.

Karina wrote in "The Road Home" of how close her relationship was with her brother.

It is very possible she knows that her brother is the one who must take the position of heir (that he was being groomed to take). The family never intended for Karina to have a role--the continuation of the Royal House was going to be left up to Nicholas, eventually. It was spoken of by the King (and Queen), and it ended up being Nicholas' desire as well.
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Old 08-10-2016, 11:31 PM
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Let's hope Ms Medforth Mills will continue to be very supportive of her brother.
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