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Old 06-26-2011, 12:19 AM
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Speculation is never easy to make

There have been examples of many different people who have had a lot of bull**** written about their person, but married into a royal family - and it seems to have worked well. Speculation is never easy to make and do you do them anyway, they tender often to fail.
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Old 06-27-2011, 11:15 AM
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Having a kidneytransplant dont lead to infertility in the majority of the cases. Source? Head at the kidneydepartment on the hospital were i work.

When it comes to Sofia everytime a paper writes about her there is 50-100 comments and 99 % are acting like bullies. I didnt see such opposition towards Daniel.

I don't think I said that the transplant in itself might pose problems...I did mention that the the anti-rejection meds might.

Operative word here? Might.

How come we are bullies if we don't think this girl is a good idea as CP, and we post the reasons why?

Are the pro Sofia fans going to be called "cheerleaders?"
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Old 06-27-2011, 12:36 PM
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I don't know much about CP and don't really know how to find out anything. Wikipedia isn't going to help in this situation. That is why I asked because I don't know what behavior he is necessarily showing that makes people doubt him as a ruler (which isn't going to happen). I know he went to college but apparently doesn't have a job; and broke up with his girlfriend of 10yrs and is now dating a model. I admit the model and no job thing makes me question, but again, I don't know the whole story.
No one knows the whole story. There are a lot of nonsense has no been able to substantiate with truth. Add to that a few spoonfuls of double standards and you will get all the soup "cooked on a nail." If you measure the CP by international standards, he is a successful designer. Artists have been around before occasionally Swedish royalty. (Prince Eugene, Count Sigvard Berndotte are examples). But, as often else in society do not count artistry as "a true professional."

As for Sofia so I expect that here in Sweden it is not anyone (besides scandal newspapers) who begrudge her and the prince to socialize.
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Old 06-27-2011, 02:54 PM
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How come we are bullies if we don't think this girl is a good idea as CP, and we post the reasons why?

Are the pro Sofia fans going to be called "cheerleaders?"
Sorry, didnt mean this board. I ment svensk damtidning and Flashback and other swedish boards.
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Old 06-27-2011, 04:34 PM
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Oh okay, thanks mattep74 for the explanation. I wish very much that I could read Swedish...I have a pen pal friend in Stockholm and I communicate with her only because she speaks perfect English......
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Old 06-30-2011, 04:11 AM
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sorry can't find an article

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Old 06-30-2011, 03:03 PM
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"Now he can propose, Sofia!"
Nu kan han fria, Sofia! | iPad Original | Aftonbladet
Aftonbladet writes that the royal family has now had another member, Sofia is fully accepted now.

So, will we soon see these tattoos at the Nobel-dinner?
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Old 06-30-2011, 03:40 PM
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I actually like the tattoos
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Old 06-30-2011, 04:00 PM
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Be ready for Princess Sofia!

Funny how times have changed. If they wanted to destroy the reputation of a Princess or Queen they manipulated photos, like in the case of Queen Maria Sofia of Naples, where nude pictures "appeared". The same for Empress Elisabeth. But you saw the manipulation.
Today they don´t have to! Future Princesses are already naked
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Old 06-30-2011, 05:29 PM
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In that case we dont need to create a hymn for this princess, i give you this since Edge have the same tatoo.

Thats one way to keep the reporters from constantly trying to find out if something is growing in another woman in the family
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Old 06-30-2011, 05:56 PM
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I think Sofia is in the way to be Carl-Phillip's wife,Carl-Phillip has a quite weak personality,while Sofia is very obstinate in her goals.It's difficult for me to guess Queen Sylvia's real opinion on Sofia,but I am sure the Queen doesn't want any scandals or conflicts in the family.
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Old 06-30-2011, 07:14 PM
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We are living in 2011!

I would not really comment on Prince Carl-Philip's friends as more than friends right up until it's public announcements.

When Carl-Philip makes his choice, I hope that he, like the Crown Princess Victoria, follows her heart and marries for love.

I do not think that in 2011, one have the reason to upset by the tattoos and bikini pictures. To me it's turning the time back to an earlier century where it was deemed books after binder appearance rather than for what they contained. There are significantly different qualities that you should ask for when someone becomes a public figure - not least to be able to have the media at his heels around the clock.
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Old 06-30-2011, 07:29 PM
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I do think saying it's only about bikini pictures and tattoos is a gross oversimplication of the facts. If it was only that, I don't think anyone would have a problem with Sofia.

I agree with the poster who said that Carl Philip seems a very weak personality who has met an ambitious and determined young woman.

IF he marries her, I hope he finds her as compelling in 40 years when she won't look quite the same topless.

I am not optimistic it will even matter for the SRF at that point anyway.

Poor Queen Silvia, I feel for her.
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Old 06-30-2011, 10:55 PM
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I actually felt sorry for Carl Gustaf and Silvia...it was almost as if Carl Philip is forcing Sofia on them. I have a pretty good idea about how Silvia feels but if I were her I'd keep my opinions and feelings about the matter to myself and let Carl Philip live his own life. You can't protect someone forever...they have to fall down and make mistakes and hopefully learn from it.

Unlike the other princes, CP does have a weak personality and therefore it easier to take advantage of him.
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Again, I hear a lot of assumptions about Carl Philip and his girlfriend but no proof.
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Old 07-01-2011, 12:24 AM
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Again, I hear a lot of assumptions about Carl Philip and his girlfriend but no proof.
What do you mean, by no proof? We have all seen the photos, which surely aren´t normal "princess material"? I don´t mean these tattoo photos from today. And a woman of class doesn´t have tattoos IMO.
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Old 07-01-2011, 01:09 AM
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I think the tattoos are a symptom of a bigger problem. I think they are gross and tacky on women, but if this was the only concern about this girl it wouldn't bother me.
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Old 07-01-2011, 01:34 AM
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There are so much negative attributes reported on Sofia, does she also have positive attributes? If Carl Philipp loves Sofia I am pleased for him and for them.
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Old 07-01-2011, 01:50 AM
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I don't think its fair to make a general statement about woman with tattoos. Really, that is just superficial.

And again, I think some are missing the general point its not about the bikini and the tattoo's. Its about the NAKED pictures (those are pics without the bikini), the reality show, etc. Its like a line from one of my favorite reality shows (actually I pretty much only watch the Bachelor/Bachelorette) these days....

It doesn't appear that Sofia is in the relationship with CP for the "right reasons". She is looking for fame. I believe that is the perception that many people have about Sofia.

I think this discussion has gone round and round with no end in sight. Again, Sofia can be a wonderful young woman, the relationship could run its course without marriage, if it appears that the relationship is getting too serious, the King might end this himself, etc. Who knows at this point.

Whatever happens...I hope they are both looking for love and both realize that their relationship is bigger than the two of them and can have consequences for the Swedish monarchy.
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Old 07-01-2011, 01:54 AM
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"Now he can propose, Sofia!"

So, will we soon see these tattoos at the Nobel-dinner?
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Well, the upper tatoo directly under the neck is a really bad place for evening robes ... and imho quite ugly.
The other one (much more beautiful one) will be invisible under most of the dresses. So yes, in case she will become Princess and may decide for a dress with plunging back neckline, we will see it . Unless she decides to remove it with laser.
BYe Bine
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