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Old 01-02-2018, 01:58 PM
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Just like Elisabeth not going in the front door so to speak is an indication of her role in the DRF, (Which is inactive.)
HH Princess Elisabeth is taking the back door, because it is where the elevator is. She can´t manage the stairs any longer
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Old 02-15-2018, 09:52 AM
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Various media have speculated if the Queen Margrethe II will abdicate the throne to his son. Here are two links.

https://www.oversixty.com.au/news/ne...-become-queen/

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal...-Princess-Mary
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Old 02-15-2018, 10:00 AM
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Various media have speculated if the Queen Margrethe II will abdicate the throne to his son. Here are two links.

https://www.oversixty.com.au/news/ne...-become-queen/

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal...-Princess-Mary
Various media have speculated about that ever since Frederik and Mary's wedding in 2004, despite The Queen pointing out numerous times that she will never abdicate.

It's totally pointless (and not appropriate at all at the moment) to speculate about this again.
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Old 02-15-2018, 10:31 AM
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To speculate about this now again, just after losing her husband is horrible, I feel.
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Old 02-15-2018, 11:31 AM
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Various media have speculated if the Queen Margrethe II will abdicate the throne to his son. Here are two links.

https://www.oversixty.com.au/news/ne...-become-queen/

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal...-Princess-Mary
She has said repeatedly that she will not abdicate. The speculation is coming mostly from the Australian and British press because of CP Mary obviously, whom they would like to see as queen consort.
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Old 02-15-2018, 11:35 AM
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Well...

I think we should postpone that interesting discussion until after the funeral.
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Old 02-15-2018, 01:56 PM
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*TOO soon*....
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Old 02-15-2018, 03:21 PM
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Various media have speculated if the Queen Margrethe II will abdicate the throne to his son. Here are two links.

https://www.oversixty.com.au/news/ne...-become-queen/

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal...-Princess-Mary
It's totally ridiculous for the media to try to "force" abdication. It's for life. It's the nature of monarchy. End of story.
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Old 02-15-2018, 03:26 PM
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I am sure the last thing what Queen Margrethe II needs now is an abdication. I am also sure that she will work much more for the crown to compensate the death of Prince Henrik.
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Old 02-16-2018, 01:48 AM
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In deference to the Royal Family and the sad times the family members are going through at the moment, I think we can all agree that it is not the time for discussions about a possible abdication. Thank you for your understanding!
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Old 02-16-2018, 02:44 AM
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I think the Danes are lucky in that they have an abundance of well loved and well respected senior royals in Queen Margrethe as well as the CP couple.

It's been touching to see the family come together at this sad time and, as well as hopefully providing comfort to each other, I think the country seeing family unity during times like these strengthens the monarchy. Part of the appeal of a hereditary monarch as head of state - and really, IMO, the only aspect of a monarchy that couldn't be duplicated by another form of government - is that the King or Queen comes with a royal FAMILY - children, siblings, all the various spouses, etc. Seeing the family members together in good times and bad is important.
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Old 02-22-2018, 05:06 AM
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I think this one belongs here: https://www.bt.dk/royale/kongehuseks...ance-for-prins

At his death PH was still patron for quite a number of organizations and what not. Some of them are bound to be taken over by other members of the DRF.
M&F as is already have plenty to do and will no doubt be even more busy in the years to come.
So that very much leaves Joachim and our Marie.

Here royal historians, a branding expert and an author believe their is an opportunity for Joachim to change his public image from someone who is idling a bit and who is considered pretty arrogant.
They believe Joachim could select a number of more outgoing protections where he would be much more in contact with ordinary people in a less formal setting.

- Well, while I think it would be a very good idea if Joachim was seen by the public doing a good deal more I don't think he should try and be folksy. It would fail IMO.
Frederik is a natural when it comes to interacting with people, he is not comfortable when it comes to formal events though.
Joachim is the opposite. He is very good at formal events but he is anything but folksy. So IMO he shouldn't try.
It's akin to telling a joke if it's not natural to you. It usually falls to the ground.
I think that if Joachim really wants to change his public image he should focus much more on heavy and serious subjects. Where he can campaign, promote and use his contacts and influence. Wounded veterans springs to mind. - With such protections he doesn't have to fake being folksy.
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Old 02-22-2018, 06:33 AM
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They could opt for "the Dutch route" and clean up all the cluttered honorary functions and presidencies which went into the hundreds. The new King ended it all. Reason: the King wants to be King for all people.

The King kept less than 10 functions which are "logic" because of his kingship: the Orange Fund (his wedding present), the Netherlands' War Graves Foundation, the Netherlands Nobility Association, the Knights of the Militaire Willems-Orde, Etc.

No longer patron of windmills, blind guide dogs, the Friesian Studbook Horses, Friends of the Opera, countryside hunting, traditional yacht builders, rifles' associations, Friends of medieaeval music, and the whole rambam.

Could be an option for the future King of Denmark as well. Do as his Dutch colleague and ask himself: "Does this still have an added value anno 2028?"

The cleaning-up also prevents possible painful situations. The Honorary Chairman of the School for the Deaf sees his recommended school embroiled by scandals of abuse. The Honorary Chairman of the Anti Animal Cruelty Society himself enjoys hunting at the royal estate. The Honorary Chairman of the Biblical Society is no member of the Qur'an Society? Take a broom and sweep it all out of the palace windows.
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Old 02-22-2018, 11:39 AM
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That could very well be an option. And Frederik who is close to King Willem-Alexander might be inspired to do something similar.
I doubt it's a reform that is to be carried out while QMII is still active at least.

However, I do think they should remain patrons for blind guide dogs. - Those poor dogs...
Forgive me for having a little chuckle on your account. I know you can take it. That's what is so enjoyable about an international board as this; the funny little language-twists we sometimes have.
I make them all the times myself.
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Old 03-02-2018, 07:11 PM
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Web-based survey from Voxmeter with 1075 respondents conducted in the days from 22 to 28 February 2018:

The Danish support for the monarchy:

Queen Margrethe reached her 46th anniversary on the throne on January 13th. Should she, in your opinion, abdicate within the coming year, so that Crown Prince Frederik and Crown Princess Mary could instead take over the throne?

* Yes 29.9%

* No 47.4 %

* Don't know 22.7%

Do you prefer Denmark to be a monarchy with a royal head of state as today, or do you wish Denmark to become a Republic with a president?

* A monarchy 76.7%

* A republic of 14.6%

* Don't know 8.7%

Do you agree or disagree with the following statements: The current members of the royal house are good representatives for Denmark?

* Highly agree 48.9%

* Agree 32.8%

* Neither agree nor disagree 11.9%

* Disagree 2.9%

* Highly disagree 2.0%

* Don't know 1.4%

Voxmeter poll 2012:

60% wanted QMII to stay on the throne.

82% supported the monarchy - while 12% wanted republic (information from Voxmeter's website - not from the articles above).

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Article from ritzau for Jyllands-Posten, BT and other danish media outlets with google translation:
Hver tredje dansker ønsker at dronning Margrethe abdicerer - Jyllands-Posten - translation

Article from Ekstra Bladet with google translation:
Overraskende måling: Så mange ønsker at Margrethe abdicerer - Ekstra Bladet - translation

The Danish historian Lars Hovbakke Sørensen had this to say - quotes from the articles above translated by me:
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Lars Hovbakke Sørensen, royal house expert and assistant professor and PhD at Absalon University of Higher Education, does not believe the Danes are dissatisfied with Queen Margrethe.

''47% of the respondents are in accordance with the Danish tradition in the field. It is almost 500 years since we have had a monarch that has retired.

That there is after all a whole third of those who have been asked, which thinks the opposite, one must take it as an expression that they think it is sad for the Queen that she will be sitting (he means on the throne) in her old age, if she wants to withdraw (he means abdicate),'' he says.
Some points from me:

Ekstra Bladet (the Danish version of the Daily Mirror) calls it a surprising poll (they mean the abdicate part).

Is it? No, it isn't. - Why? Because we've had several other polls with an even higher percentage who have wanted QMII to abdicate.

Quote from the articles above:
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A vast majority of Danes - 77 percent are for a monarchy.

The figures have been stable at between 77% and 88% for the last 30 years.
That's wrong.

1. Some of the Danish polls show the support at above 80% (even at 88%), but most of these polls don't give people the opportunity to awnser ''don't know/no opinion''.

2. That was also the case in the Netherlands where the TNS NIPO polls had the suport in the 80%s (even some in the 90%s). The Maurice de Hond, Synovate and Ipsos polls (which includes the ''don't know/no opinion'' questions) have the support in the 70%s and 60%s (one poll in 2015 at 50%).

3. The very few Danish polls (including this one) who ask the question as the Brits/Norwegians does (whit the ''don't know/no opinion''), mostly show the support to be in the 70%s (even seen some at 50%s and 60%s).

The support of the Danish monarchy compared to other monarchies - based on the polls which includes ''don't know/no opinion:

I've seen all the polls on the Norwegian monarchy under King Harald V, most of the polls on the British monarchy since 1990, most of the polls on the Danish monarchy under QMII, most of the polls on the Swedish monarchy under King Carll XVI Gustaf and most of the polls on the Dutch monarchy under Beatrix and WA.

From 1998 to 2014:
The Brits on the top with the the Danes on a second place.

2014 - present:
The Norwegians on the top with the Brits and Danes on second place.

That's based on the Norstat poll for NRK, which now have the support for the Norwegian monarchy at above 80% (internal polling done for the palace have also, according to Norwegian media, shown much higher support since 2016).
That is (according to Norwegian commentators) because some of King Harald's personal popularity has rubbed of to the monarchy.

BTW: I went through all the polls on the Norwegian monarchy since 2000 in a post last year in the ''Republic or Monarchy'' thread.

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I wrote this earlier today, but I didn't had the time to post it before now.
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Well, the ''YouGov most admired person'' figures for 2018 is here, so let's go through them:
(I will only list royal persons here, with the exception of the first place.)

The most admired persons in Denmark:

Among the 29 most admired Women:
1. Mary with 11.60%.
3. QMII with 10.50%.
10. QEII with 2.90% (that woman is everywhere, even in countries with its own royal family).

Among the 30 most admired men:
1. Barack Obama with 16.60%.
2. Frederik with 11.80%.

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Let's go through the previous ''YouGov most admired'' persons in DK figures:

2016:
Among the 30 most admired Women:
1. Mary with 10.4%.
3. QMII with 8.1%.
21. QEII with 1.5%

Among the 30 most admired men:
1. Barack Obama with 17.1%.
2. Frederik with 11.3%.
21. Henrik 1.0%

2015:
Among the 10 most admired Women:
1. Mary with 12.4%.
3. QMII with 8.9%.

Among the 10 most admired men:
1. Barack Obama with 14.2%.
2. Frederik with 11.8%.

See more information of this poll in this thread:
Support for the Monarchy in the UK

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Yes, this is a pretty serious poll, but I'm 99% sure that Frederik is more admired than what Obama is in DK.
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Old 04-13-2018, 02:05 PM
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It's basically a poll about who is the most highly profiled person people can think of that year.
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Yes, that's the case with all such polls - but quite interesting anyway, I think.
And the royals are scoring very well.
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