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Old 03-09-2005, 03:28 PM
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Talking Friso, 1969

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Old 03-10-2005, 03:19 PM
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Johan Frisco and Mabel attended the premiere of 'Hotel Rwanda'.

You can see the photos here: http://www.fotosmulders.com/
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Old 03-16-2005, 06:52 PM
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Picture of Prince Friso (7-2-2005) in Leiden.

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This thread of News and Pictures of Johan Friso and Mabel has now been cleaned up.

However, in the process of cleaning up, I had to remove a lot of posts with links that no longer work, including several of Mabel in her pink bow creation while she was pregnant. While it was not a dress that members liked, it would be great to have them re-posted anyways as a "record" of events attended by Johan Friso and Mabel.
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Prince Friso and Princess Mabel now have their profiles at the Official site of the Royal Family. The links below (they are in the Queen Beatrix's profile)

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Old 07-08-2005, 12:57 PM
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1. Princess Mabel (November 2004)
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Old 07-08-2005, 01:32 PM
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I htought they weren't prince and princess anymore?
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I htought they weren't prince and princess anymore?
Friso gave up his rights to the throne but not his titles. Mabel, as said in her profile, uses them as a courtesy.
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Old 07-08-2005, 02:35 PM
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thanks for the info.
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Old 07-08-2005, 03:20 PM
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Mabel has really had a remarkabel life untill now,

first she stayed as a houseguest on the boat -for a night or 2- of someone who turned out to be a really, really bad man.

Then she had a friend who according to the telegraaf of a few day ago put her in danger of being abducted by cronies of unpleasantly rightwing people.

and

then she marries a prince.

Who would think that one of the merits of this website would be to make you thankfull for a uneventfull life?
That's so well put. I like my relatively uneventful existence :p
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Happy birthday for princess Mabel!
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i find it quite rude that both friso and mabel don't give any kind of information about luana. we all know she is their daughter and that they can decide wether to give or not official photos or information (about the christeninf for example), but friso was sometime a member of the royal family and it would be really 'royal' and elegant if they were not so resentful because the parliament didn't accept mabel because of her past.
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i find it quite rude that both friso and mabel don't give any kind of information about luana. we all know she is their daughter and that they can decide wether to give or not official photos or information (about the christeninf for example), but friso was sometime a member of the royal family and it would be really 'royal' and elegant if they were not so resentful because the parliament didn't accept mabel because of her past.
I disagree that it's because they are "resentful" that they aren't as forthcoming about Luana's baptism or their life.

Firstly, Johan Friso has never wanted a relationship with the press. He has alway shied away from the press and kept as much of his life private as possible -- such as while he and Mabel were dating. I see no difference now that he is married and has a family. Likely, he would be more private and protective now with a little baby to protect. Even Willem and Maxima as the future King and Queen have a love/hate relationship with the press, and they in a sense need the press now and in the future. Johan Friso and Mabel are in no such need.

Secondly, I never got the impression that Johan Friso was big on being a prince. I'm sure that enjoys the privileges but he was never big on the public events. As the second son, one would expect that he would've carried on more duties in the past (before his marriage to Mabel), but it was actually Constantijn who carried out more royal duties. That is why I've always believed that when Johan Friso was removed from the line of succession because of the Mabel situation, he was quite relived and that it worked out quite well in his favour.

Thirdly, just as there are clear duties and expectations for Willem and Maxima and their family as Crown Prince and Crown Princess there are non-expecations of non-members of the royal house. Johan Friso and Mabel fall into this latter category and there are no expectations of how much they should share with the public and the press about Luana or their life. They frankly don't have to share a single thing about their lives. That they even permitted the two or three official pictures of themselves and Luana with the Queen already exceeds expectations.

They are part of Queen Beatrix's family of course, and so the only way we'll see pictures of or get information about their family is through her -- and through their connection with her. I think we'll get very few pictures of just the three of them (and their future children). Such pictures will always include the Queen or other members of the royal family who are in the line to succession.

So I don't think their behaviour is "rude" or "unroyal" at all. Their behaviour and actions is perfectly in line with someone who is not part of a royal house but is "merely" a member of the Queen's family. (Consider how much information or how many formal portraits we get of King Juan Carlos' sisters and their families -- very little.)
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Old 09-03-2005, 06:48 PM
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So I don't think their behaviour is "rude" or "unroyal" at all. Their behaviour and actions is perfectly in line with someone who is not part of a royal house but is "merely" a member of the Queen's family. (Consider how much information or how many formal portraits we get of King Juan Carlos' sisters and their families -- very little.)
I totally agree with that. The same can be said about Queen Beatrix's sisters Irene & Christina and their families. I, for instance, know very little about them and hey... I'm Dutch. I think it's their choice to choose for a life in relative anonimity and luckily for them, they can because they aren't members of the Royal House anymore.
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I totally agree with that. The same can be said about Queen Beatrix's sisters Irene & Christina and their families. I, for instance, know very little about them and hey... I'm Dutch. I think it's their choice to choose for a life in relative anonimity and luckily for them, they can because they aren't members of the Royal House anymore.
A much better and closer to home example than the one I provided Maxie. And you're right: When was the last time we got any official portraits of Irene or Christina and their families? While earlier this spring we got some new official portraits of Princess Margriet and her family.

I cannot think of the last time there was an official picture released of either Christina or Irene's families. Not even from Margarita and Edwin's wedding was there a family picture of Irene with her sons and daughters. (In hindsight that might've turned out to be a good thing but that's a digression.)

And as discussed in another thread, I think the Apeldoorn branch of the royal family is much better at posing for and releasing official family portraits than the Queen and her family are. We get many more official portraits of Princess Margriet, Pieter van Vollenhoven and their entire clan than we do of Beatrix and her sons, daughter-in-laws and grandchildren. There has never actually even been one picture of Beatrix with all her sons, daughter-in-laws since they've all been married, let alone one of Beatrix with her grandchildren.

While Johan Friso still holds the title of Prince and is the Queen's son, we have to let go of whatever expectations we hold of royals and regular updates on their lives. What we can expect from Willem and Maxima about their family will not be the same amount of information we can expect about Johan and Mabel and their family, or even of Constantijn, Laurentien and their family.
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I don't think it's "rude" per se, I simply wish to see more of their little family. Royal house members or no, they're still very visible as the Queen's children (and grandaughter).

And as far as Princess Cristina goes, she lives in New York I believe, so it's easier to understand why we don't see much of her. I kind of wish we did though - we know so little about her and her children. It was nice to see Juliana at the wedding and I wish we'd see more members of the family more often. *sigh* :)
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