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Old 10-06-2012, 03:00 PM
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Pretty much the entire clan used to gather at Windsor until the early 70s. After that it became the Queens family with the QM and Princess Margaret and her family at Sandringham. Now I suppose as that group have expanded Sandringham is becoming too small so its either a case of some staying at other houses on the estate or drop Margarets side from the annual attendance. Maybe tearing down part of the old Sandringham House wasn't such a good idea after all.
I think the change from Christmas at Windsor happened in 1992 after the fire at Windsor. That forced Christmas to Sandringham. And a subsequent reduction in the family members ... Gloucesters, Kents etc. as long as QEQM and Margaret were alive Linleys and Chattos were included. Not sure after
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Old 10-06-2012, 03:37 PM
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I googled to see if I could find when Christmas moved to Sandringham and found this quite interesting article about a former footman:
Queen's ex-footman on Christmas with the Royal family - Telegraph

30 years ago, when Chris Ely worked as a royal footman, the Royal family celebrated Christmas at Windsor Castle before retiring to Sandringham for New Year and the ensuing six weeks.
He cannot understand why this year, what with it being the largest Royal family gathering in decades with 27 guests, they should choose to spend Christmas at the Norfolk estate where many of those attending may have to sleep in the servants' quarters.
"It is kind of cramped, Sandringham, and when we went up there after Christmas at Windsor, we were always reduced to three small teams, each working just two weeks, thank God. Who wants to be in stuck in Norfolk in the middle of winter?
"Norfolk in winter was never the best place to be. The family went there to kill animals but for us there wasn't a lot to do and the house wasn't the most comfortable to work in.
"What with so many of them going this year I don't know where they are going to put everybody, including the staff."
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Old 10-07-2012, 12:22 PM
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Who on earth does Chris Ely think he is to lecture the royals on where they celebrate Christmas? He seems to think he's some kind of expert and that the royals shouldn't go to Sandringham because there's nothing for the staff to do. He needs to get off his high horse.
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Old 10-07-2012, 01:26 PM
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Who on earth does Chris Ely think he is to lecture the royals on where they celebrate Christmas? He seems to think he's some kind of expert and that the royals shouldn't go to Sandringham because there's nothing for the staff to do. He needs to get off his high horse.
Ha ha I appreciate your concern..But just see the other way..Sometimes loyal long-time servants are much concerned and more aware of our needs and can make better choices about things like where to hold an event ..how to deal with a situation..within their purview, of course..just musing..
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Old 10-07-2012, 01:57 PM
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The Queen and some members of the royal family still spend some Christmas time at Windsor before going off to Sandringham but Windsor did offer more room for the royals.

I like Sandringham too. Those places look very cozy and I bet the family have a good time sitting by the grand fireplaces, having tea, playing games and just having fun.
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Man in critical condition after falling into lake at Sandringham

Man in critical condition after falling into lake at Sandringham while Queen nearby - Telegraph
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ROYAL: QUEEN MOTHER ATTENDS CHURCH: | Archive Footage | ITN Source

This clip is about the Queen Mother attending church but it shows some lovely video showing the Royal Family inside the church at Sandringham over Christmas. I've never seen inside the church before
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As members of the royal family are preparing to spend Christmas at Sandringham House, take a good look at the breathtaking views of the royal estate during the summer months-

Sandringham Estate 360 Virtual Tour - Norfolk, United Kingdom

Some of the views I personally never seen before.
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As members of the royal family are preparing to spend Christmas at Sandringham House, take a good look at the breathtaking views of the royal estate during the summer months-

Sandringham Estate 360 Virtual Tour - Norfolk, United Kingdom

Some of the views I personally never seen before.
It really is quite a beautiful estate. Looking at the Big House though, its hard to believe that the Royal Family runs out of rooms for people over the Christmas holidays. That place seems HUGE!
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Victoria, the sister of Edward VII, had a country house built in Germany in the style of Sandringham House. The country house was called Schloss Friedrichshof. She was the Dowager Empress Frederick at this time.
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When furnishing the library at Sandringham, Edward VII summoned a man from Hatchard's bookstore. Edward instructed him to fill the shelves with whatever volumes might be considered for a country house.


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At Sandringham, William Gladstone's secretary noticed that Alexandra, the Princess of Wales liked to feed "almost all the horses severally with her own hands".
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Does anyone know how long ago the Kents and Gloucesters stopped attending at Christmas?
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This is where I believe there are many Faberge items on display!
The drawing room is beautifully furnished.

Who is the portrait of?
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At the time the Prince of Wales, Albert Edward, bought the property of Sandringham in 1862, there was 7,000 acres.
The additional 13,000 acres were purchased by succeeding monarchs.
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Does anyone know how long ago the Kents and Gloucesters stopped attending at Christmas?
I thought they stopped attending Christmas with the Queen after Christmas was moved from Windsor to Sandringham after the castle fire in the early 90s
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As the size of the family who attend at Christmas has soared in recent years, and will no doubt increase further as the Queen's grandchildren continue to marry and have more children, is it possible that the Queen would cease to continue to invite her niece and nephew and their respective families? Is Charles likely to invite them too in the future?

Also, the Cambridges now have a home on the Sandringham estate, but did Charles ever have the use of a house there on a permanent basis too? I realise he doesn't nowadays, but in the past?
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As the size of the family who attend at Christmas has soared in recent years, and will no doubt increase further as the Queen's grandchildren continue to marry and have more children, is it possible that the Queen would cease to continue to invite her niece and nephew and their respective families? Is Charles likely to invite them too in the future?
> I think Margaret's children will be invited whilst the Queen is alive.
> After that, I think they may come every alternate year.
> Some of the Queen's own grand children (Zara, Peter) come every alternate year at the moment. I think that may continue
> Depending on when Charles becomes King, I think the usual Christmas do might have a bit of a shake-up. I think Camilla's family will appear, by rotation (alternate years?).

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Also, the Cambridges now have a home on the Sandringham estate, but did Charles ever have the use of a house there on a permanent basis too? I realise he doesn't nowadays, but in the past?
I do not believe Charles has ever had a home on the Sandringham estate. I understand he loves Highgrove and Scotland, and tended to focus his "away time" there.
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> I think Margaret's children will be invited whilst the Queen is alive.
> After that, I think they may come every alternate year.
I suspect that like the Queen's cousins they simply won't be invited - particularly as they have their own families.

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I believe that the only time that any of the Philip's have missed Christmas was the year that Autumn was expecting Savannah a few days after Christmas in which case none of Anne, Peter or Zara attend but they have attended every other year.


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> Depending on when Charles becomes King, I think the usual Christmas do might have a bit of a shake-up. I think Camilla's family will appear, by rotation (alternate years?).
I doubt that Camilla's family will ever be acknowledged as attending - they may spend some time in one of the houses such as Wood House but not attend church etc with the royals.



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I do not believe Charles has ever had a home on the Sandringham estate. I understand he loves Highgrove and Scotland, and tended to focus his "away time" there.
That is the case

Personally I am not sure that Charles will even continue to invite his own siblings. He doesn't seem to have that great a relationship with them and if he does go the Camilla's family route and William and Kate have the Middleton's and Harry has his wife and her family then it is possible that the siblings and their children will simply go elsewhere.

Anne has already done so once so it is possible that Beatrice and Eugenie might finally decide they would like to have Christmas with their mother and also with their partner's and their families rather than the current situation where most of them are there for less than 24 hours anyway.
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Sandringham may not be the place for Christmas after the Queen is gone. George V started Christmas there - but the practice has not been continuous since then. Charles and Camilla spend the majority of the holiday elsewhere. I just don't see Charles staying at Sandringham till February when he is king.

This probably belongs on the "when Charles is Monarch" thread. I think we have brought the topic up there, in the past.
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