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Old 01-01-2015, 08:08 PM
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The current Duchess of Wellington,is HRH Princess Antonia of Prussia a great grand daughter of Wilhelm II.

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Old 01-02-2015, 07:46 PM
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The late Duke did a lot for Waterloo we will miss him.
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It would be nice if the Garter was given to Charles, the 9th Duke for it would add historic significance to the 200th anniversary of Waterloo.

I'm not familiar with the new Dukes work. What would be the basis for awarding him the garter?


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Old 01-02-2015, 09:11 PM
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The Queen wants to give it to him - that is the only criteria necessary. The Garter is the personal gift of the monarch and there is no need for a person to have done anything at all.
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funeral for 8th Duke of Wellington

Arthur Valerian Wellesley, Eighth Duke of Wellington laid to rest in sombre family funeral | Daily Mail Online
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Old 01-08-2015, 06:17 PM
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Andrew Parker Bowles & Prince El Hassan bin Talal of Jordan attended the funeral at Stratfield Saye church today.
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Old 01-12-2015, 05:37 PM
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Earl of Abingdon


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Old 01-13-2015, 11:48 AM
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The Earl of Lindsey and Abingdon is a title of the Bertie family.
How did Abingdon become part of the title?
Through a not direct way. The title "Earl of Abingdon" was first created for the 2nd Earl of Lindsey's youngest son (from his second marriage). The Earl of Lindsey title passed on to the eldest son from the first marriage, with the 4th Earl also becoming the 1st Duke of Ancaster and Kevesteven. The Dukedom became extinct with the death of the 5th Duke and the Earldom passed on to a line of one of the second Earls' sons (passing on to the 9th Earl). When that line died out (with the death of the 9th Earl's grandson, the 12th Earl), it passed on to the line of the 2nd Earl's youngest son, the Earl of Abingdon (making the 8th Earl of Abingdon the 13th Earl of Lindsey). The 9th to 12th Earls were also Viscount Cullens through special remainder (although they never claimed the title), and it went extinct on the 12th Earl's death.

As the Earl of Abingdon descends through the 2nd Earl of Lindsey's youngest son and the 1st Earl of Lindsey only had one son if this line dies out then both titles will become extinct.
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February 4, 2015:

GBR: Service Of Thanksgiving For The Life Of The 11th Duke Of Marlborough, John Spencer-Churchil
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The Duchess of Cornwall, the Duke of Kent, Prince Michael of Kent, the Duke and Duchess of Gloucester, Viscount Linley and Tom Parker-Bowles were all present. The service took place at the Guards Chapel, Wellington Barracks.
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Old 02-05-2015, 11:47 AM
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Nice to see so many members of the family attend the service. The new Duke, Jamie, always looks so unkempt but I know he has had quite a colourful history. His two youngest children are very cute.
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Old 02-05-2015, 03:34 PM
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The above link contains photos from the commemoration service of The 11th Duke Of Marlborough.
The 12th Duke of Marlborough looks alcohol-worn. Tom Parker Bowels does not look much better than the new Duke.
It is nice to see Duke of Kent and Prince Michael attending the service.
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I see nothing wrong with Tom nor the Duke.

Could you explain what you find objectionable?

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An article from January 7th. Apparenttly the Hon. Diana Guinness is angry at the biographer of her grandmother Diana Mosley nee Mitford.

Daphne Guinness brands author of Diana Mitford biography a 'charlatan' on Twitter | Daily Mail Online

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My grandmother committed no crime, she fell in LOVE. And she was in prison for 4 years... aged 23... revising history is easy for CHARLATANS.
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'I am a Mitford and I detest you
the article doesn't mention WHY Ms. Guinness is angry though. It can't be that people are writing books about the Mitfords, as her aunt-by-marriage, Charlotte Mosley, is doing that.

As she is talking about revising history, it is indeed easy for charlatans. But revising history is even easier for family members. Although Diana Mosley was intelligent, charming, witty and elegant, fact remains that she her political views were awful and she continued to share these even after the war.
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To be fair though, I guess a lot of people were Nazi supporters back then. But you are right that it is never explained why Ms Guiness is angry.
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Old 02-06-2015, 08:55 AM
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They were, esp. among the aristocracy. Diana Mosley was married to the fascist leader of the time and cultivated a personal friendship with Hitler and henchmen. She stands out in that respect. And also because even after the war she didn't change her tune much. In a way you can admire her honesty and strong will perhaps.
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Death of the Anglo-Irish 8th Marquess of Waterford at Curraghmore House, Portlaw, Waterford aged 81.

Death Notice Of John Hubert (8th Marquis of Waterford) de la Poer, Portlaw, Waterford, Ireland
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Curraghmore House, County Waterford, Republic of Ireland.

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In the British nobility, an Earl may have two secondary titles: Viscount _ and Other title.
Here is the scenario:
The Earl's heir is Viscount _. The Viscount's son has the last of the paternal grandfather's secondary titles, the Other title.
What title does his son get if this great-grandson is born when Great-Grandfather is still the Earl?
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Old 02-19-2015, 08:13 PM
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The five levels of the nobility are in descending order:


Duke, Marquis, Earl, Viscount and Baron.


The heir apparent takes the next title as a courtesy title e.g. many Earls have a Viscount title as well so the heir is Viscount.


The heir's heir apparent would be Baron.


That Baron's heir apparent would be 'Honourable'.


And if another generation was born - nothing - until he/she moved up the line.


Daughters are ladies down the line until the also are honourable's when their fathers are on the bottom of the title's list e.g. Diana, while the daughter of Viscount Althorp - was the Honourable Diana Spence because the Earl Spencer only has one other title (Viscount Althorp) but when her father became Earl Spencer and her brother became Viscount Althorp she became Lady Diana Spencer.


However, it must be remembered that the substantive holder of the title is still the Earl and the other titles are a 'courtesy' title only.
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