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12-01-2007, 11:44 PM
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I am glad to learn that Prince and Princess of Asturias are not threatened by the stupid ancient laws. It is nice that the Spanish Royal family respected the choice of Prince Felipe and that the article in question has nothing to do with the reality.
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12-03-2007, 02:17 PM
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The only reason by that prince Felipe were lost his rights al throne of Spain, had been if its marriage had been made in against del King and delas Spanish Cortes. The pragmatica sanction already is in disuse and thanks to God the marriages between different princes of monarquias are not the habitual thing. The benefit among other things, is that at least the diseases of genetic transmission quedarón in the forgetfulness. We do not forget that the daughters of Reina Victory infected to monarquias of average world hemofilia. better at the present time, right?
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12-29-2007, 11:49 AM
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A pool: El 70% de los españoles cree que el Rey no debe abdicar
Some people can translate it better than I can?.
I think it's very positive for SRF, Monarchy an the King.
Opinion abaut the princess of Asturias is very positive, I think so!... 75% of spaniards think that she will be a queen respected, only 14% no (question nº 10). Question nº 9 is abaut the princess too.
question nº 7, opinion about the King's abdication it's very interesant too.
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12-29-2007, 07:12 PM
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You prefer that Spain be:
Monarchy 66.7%
Republic 30.1%
NS/NC 302%
monarchic Women 71.6%
republican Women 25.3%
monarchic Men 61.5%
republican Men 35.1%
Young persons(18-29 years old)
Monarchic 56.4%
republican 40.8%
Old persons(+64)
Monarchic 82.5%
republican 14.3%
Monarchic Catalans 49.2%
republican Catalans 46.6%
monarchic Basques 44.3%
republican Basques 47.7%
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/535...sta2yi1lb7.jpg
How do you value the monarchy as form of government?
It's the best form 52.8%
It's a minor bad 32.9%
It's the worst form 11%
NS/NC 3.2%
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12-29-2007, 07:24 PM
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Are you in agreement with the fact that the royal family is associate so much with the religious worship? (I don't know how translate "laico" and "acofesional)"
A little or nothing 52.3
I very agree 23.9
NS/NC 23.8
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/1...sta7wm6lg8.jpg
Do you think that the prince already has the respect and admiration that the King has?
He need to win it 52.1
Yes, he won it 46.1
NS/NC 1.8
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12-29-2007, 07:33 PM
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Do you think it's negative for the monarchic institution that the princess is divorced and plebeian?
Nothing negative 74.8%
A bit negative 12.8%
very negative 5%
really negative 3.9%
NS/NC 3.4%
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/618...sta6tn0re0.jpg
Do you think that thre Princes are....
More close(with the people) than when they compromised 37.2%
Equal of close 51%
Less close 10%
NC/NS 23.8%
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12-29-2007, 07:44 PM
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Do you believe Prince Felipe will be King? 84.4%
Do You believe Infanta Leonor will be Queen? 53.9%
Do you believe that Infanta Leonor's Kids will reign? 35.9%
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Do you believe that the separation of the infanta elena will affect the monarchy?
Really much 5.9%
Very much 10.3%
A little 33.4%
Nothing 49.2%
NC/NS 1.2%
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01-05-2008, 09:28 PM
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the SMS are great
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05-21-2008, 02:41 PM
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That surveys are a bit confusing. EL Pais published that 87% of the Spanish citizens thought that Felipe should win his trone working harder and that he was not prepared yet.
Letizia ranges from about 58% of acceptance specially in big cities but a low 35% in provinces. Recently I have read about 60% in total.
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05-15-2009, 08:07 PM
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A new survey upon the 5th Wedding Anniversary of the Princes of Asturias
King Juan Carlos
Abdicate upon disability 57.4%
Abdicate soon 22%
Abdicate within 8-10 years 11%
Prince Felipe
Ready to replace his father 81%
Not Ready yet 11.5%
Don't know 8.4%
Princess Letizia
Living up to the expectations of the Princess of Asturias 81.7%
Ready to replace Queen Sofia 53.7%
Not Ready yet 30.2%
http://estaticos.elmundo.es/document...16/portada.pdf
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05-16-2009, 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by donnaK
A new survey upon the 5th Wedding Anniversary of the Princes of Asturias
King Juan Carlos
Abdicate upon disability 57.4%
Abdicate soon 22%
Abdicate within 8-10 years 11%
Prince Felipe
Ready to replace his father 81%
Not Ready yet 11.5%
Don't know 8.4%
Princess Letizia
Living up to the expectations of the Princess of Asturias 81.7%
Ready to replace Queen Sofia 53.7%
Not Ready yet 30.2%
http://estaticos.elmundo.es/document...16/portada.pdf
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This is promising....
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05-18-2009, 11:32 AM
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07-15-2009, 03:01 PM
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I am not sure if this has already been discussed or even if this is the right place for this, but does anyone know what will happen to the House of Borbon when Leonor's kids rule? In other words would they start a new dynasty since their father would likely not be a Bornon? Will Leonor be the end of the Bornon line? I know that's a long ways off but I was just wondering.
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07-15-2009, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by ladejesus
I am not sure if this has already been discussed or even if this is the right place for this, but does anyone know what will happen to the House of Borbon when Leonor's kids rule? In other words would they start a new dynasty since their father would likely not be a Bornon? Will Leonor be the end of the Bornon line? I know that's a long ways off but I was just wondering.
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I assume that when the time comes, steps will be taken to prevent the change of the dynasty name. Perhaps, they will adopt the same path as England: when Princess Elizabeth became Queen, it would have been the standard procedure for the entire Royal House to adopt the surname of her husband (who belonged to the House of Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glücksburg, a branch of the House of Oldenburg), as was the case with the previous female Monarch – Queen Victoria. However, after Queen Elizabeth’s accession to the Throne in 1952, it was officially declared that the House (and Family) name will remain Windsor.
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07-15-2009, 05:17 PM
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Thanks Marsel. I didn't realize they had done that in England.
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07-15-2009, 06:03 PM
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Whatever the children of Leonor will be named, the other dinastic members of the Bourbon family will probably claim the headship of the house, something not linked to the Spanish crown but to the Capetien and Bourbon cultural and moral heritage.
I think it would be more fair if Spanish law adopt a system as the belgian one (I think) in which the surname of the princes is "of Spain".
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07-16-2009, 09:32 AM
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I think the RF should keep the Bourbon surname. It's so regal after all.
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07-16-2009, 11:48 AM
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Thanks Marsel. I didn't realize they had done that in England.
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You are welcome.. 
I agree with amedea though that the Belgian would work just as good, if not better.
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11-03-2009, 11:19 AM
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Do you believe that Infanta Leonor's Kids will reign? 35.9
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Only this? People are expecting Leonor to be a bad queen, so...
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11-03-2009, 12:00 PM
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I think the first question is:
Can be Leonor,Queen ? The answer is that today the Spanish Constitution has not changed, it says that the throne only can be inherited by men. It must be changed for that she can be Queen.
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