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Old 03-05-2014, 03:51 PM
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I thought always the ottomans marrys georgians bu the seldjuks too :) good to know:)
And the circassian royals, the princes and princesses, was they before 1864 from georgia? Do you know?
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:)

are you turkisch? :)

you want sultans to rule in turky? :)
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circassians never had royalty :) only georgians had which is very ancient in the world after japan :)
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Old 03-05-2014, 04:00 PM
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Leyla Achba - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The last sultans abdulhamid ll and mehmed Vl maried abhaz princesses this person from the link was a circassian princess too. I was shocked, from which country are they the princesses?
And the turkish royalty is since 2006 very public in turkey but i think a sultan for Turkey is to complcate.
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there is difference between a princely family and a royal family :)

yes they were georgians also from the princely family :)

they lived in abkhazia :) which is now occupanted by russians :(
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Old 03-05-2014, 04:09 PM
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Many abkhazian princesses married on the ottoman family. The members have more caucasian roots than turkish :)
The members of the royal family want to be more public and want apanage from turkey. I dont know if it were real but after 90 years exile, i dont think that it will be real.
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they were not abkhazians :) they were georgians :)

achba-chachba were georgian princely families :)

their real name was Anchabadze and Shervashidze :)
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they were not abkhazians :) they were georgians :)

achba-chachba were georgian princely families :)

their real name was Anchabadze and Shervashidze :)
Ahh thank you bagration thrones :)
Also they were a princeley family who were georgians?
Its very interesting, georgia has many princley family?
The georgian princesses grew up in the ottoman harems after 1864
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princely familes are a lot i think more than 300 :)

but only 1 royal family which is bagration :)
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yes they were georgians from that princely family :)
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princely familes are a lot i think more than 300 :)

but only 1 royal family which is bagration :)
Ahh thanks for the informations :)
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welcome :)
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Old 03-05-2014, 04:39 PM
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welcome :)
What do you think that turkey were a monarchy back?
Which opinion has the georgians about the ottoman royals?
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i dont think georgians would think about ottoman sultans positively :)

many bad history with ottomans :(
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i dont think georgians would think about ottoman sultans positively :)

many bad history with ottomans :(
Yes its sad :(

For me are the ottomans a very interesting royal family.
The sultan is not the first born son, he is the eldest male member of the dynasty, its very interesting
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of course it is interesting also :)

erdogan is new sultan

he is georgian also :)
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The ottoman royal family support erdogan but he isn't the new sultan :)
Erdogan wants that the family more public and thay the participace to hic politic parti but i dont think that he will be the new sultan
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no i am joking :)

but erdogan is georgian still :)
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From.today: grandchildren of sultan abdulhamid ll the members of the imperial family speaks.about sultan abdulhamid at üskudar university in istanbul https://mobile.twitter.com/muhsinkon...325696/photo/1 https://m.facebook.com/media/set/?se...3&l=d437b29622
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