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11-11-2007, 02:46 PM
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11-11-2007, 02:47 PM
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Most of the Spaniards they supported Sunday to king Juan Carlos to command to shut up to the president of Venezuela, Hugo Chávez, that described as "fascista" to the ex- president of the Government Jose Maria Aznar.
Respaldo en España a la reacción del Rey Juan Carlos
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La Lengua acompañó al Imperio (Antonio de Nebrija)
The Language accompanied to the Empire (Antonio de Nebrija)
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11-11-2007, 02:49 PM
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http://i13.tinypic.com/8ad61ih.jpg
Chavez looks like KJC's bodyguard or something like that  , I mean, the guy doesn't remotely look like a Chief of State, is too cheap and doesn't look smart or good
Class is class, some people have it, some don't 
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11-11-2007, 03:55 PM
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Thanks. Youtube video is so funny  .
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11-11-2007, 03:55 PM
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http://i13.tinypic.com/8ad61ih.jpg
Chavez looks like KJC's bodyguard or something like that , I mean, the guy doesn't remotely look like a Chief of State, is too cheap and doesn't look smart or good
Class is class, some people have it, some don't
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i quite agree, although i have some reservations on the fact that good appearance equals beign a good presidency. i know of one of the summit presidents (eg, latin american president) who looks okay(ish) and wouldn't make it past the first round of the best president.
contrary to what i would have thought, many spaniards liked the reaction of the king. i must say i didn't see him more upset in a long time! he did really well though, chavez was most annoying.
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11-11-2007, 06:38 PM
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Thanks everybody for all the informations and the comments about this "incident". First, it's the proof that the diplomacy is something that you have to learn, isen't it, then for some "chief of state" - yes it's Chavez himself who is giving this title for him, and it's true because he had been elected third by 63% of the votes......- the diplomacy is a no man's land! Understatment....
Spanish people are very lucky to have a King so corageous!
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11-11-2007, 08:25 PM
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My first post lol. I'm glad the king told Chavez to shut up. Mr Chavez thinks it's heroic to interrupt people and call names. He behaves like a child and I don't see that helping his country. It may not be the "grown up" thing to do or something befitting a king but I'm glad someone got to tell him off for a change.
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11-12-2007, 04:08 AM
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The video of the incident with English subtitles:
Note that Chávez didn't shut up after being warned by the king.
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11-12-2007, 05:26 AM
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Well done, Your Majesty. Here in Brasil, many people who are fed up too, call it "the phrase of the year".
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11-12-2007, 06:26 AM
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I agree with Mascha and others- bravo! It was great- at last somebody stopped this clown. It can be various attitudes to fidel Castro, but I have never heard he insulted anybody as Chavez always does. Juan Carlos acted as a head of the State and as a man and it was great!
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11-12-2007, 08:47 AM
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Let's please be careful and make sure that this does not turn into a political discussion and lets remember to respect others' opinions.
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11-12-2007, 09:36 AM
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There are not many heads of state who will get away with something like that but JC is one of them. It will actually add to his charisma Somehow it reminded me of Nikita Khrushchev and his notorious shoe-banging incident 
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11-12-2007, 11:58 AM
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11-12-2007, 01:59 PM
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The video of the incident with English subtitles:
Note that Chávez didn't shut up after being warned by the king. |
Thank you for posting this youtube video. I had not been able to follow Chavez' remarks before seeing this one.
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11-12-2007, 06:51 PM
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ok  i know im in minority here but i dont agree with Juan Carlos behaviour. I understand his reaction but I don't agree.
Chavez is a rude man and a real "fascist" imo, but he was elected by his people... JC wasn't. We shouldnt forget that P. Aznar offended Chavez in the first place using the same words that Chavez did this time... Just because Chavez is a dictator (imo) it doesnt give powers to JC order him to shut up...
I liked the diplomatic way Zapatiro talked with him, but the King was not in his days for sure. You can't ( a King can't) tell 'shut up' to a president of another country... In this summit... where were the moderators? Where were they?!...
They are the ones who should tell Chavez to stop to talk, to stop with the rude manners... not the King!
In TRF you cant tell anyone 'why don't you shut up?' even if you dont like someone's posts... I think the King should come here more times 
I am not seeing Queen Elizabeth shouting to Robert Mugabe 'why dont you shut up?!'................ It would be fun i agree but a Queen/King should know her/his place 24 hours a day.
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11-12-2007, 10:36 PM
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11-12-2007, 10:47 PM
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BRAVO YOUR MAJESTY! You serve your country proud! its about time someone told that Fascist a thing or two!!!!!!! HURRAH!
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11-12-2007, 11:37 PM
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I love that he told him to shut up! That was brilliant. It really showed me that Spain isn't going to put up with that stuff anymore.
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11-13-2007, 02:54 AM
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Chavez's rudeness
I have to disagree with King Juan Carlos' behaviour; he is only stepping down to Chavez's level. I heartily applaud and approve of Zapatero's behaviour. He behaved as a true dignified diplomat. With mere words he was able to convey what a rude boor Chavez is and he liftted himself up above the fray. That is exactly how all true diplomats should behave.
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