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Norwegian State Visit to Chile 26-31 March 2019

Their Majesties King Harald and Queen Sonja have accepted the invitation of the President of the Republic of Chile, His Excellency Mr Sebastián Piñera, to visit the nation on an official state visit.

The visit marks 100 years of diplomatic relations between Norway and Chile, and is planned for the period from 26 to 31 March. The King Couple is accompanied by Foreign Minister Ine Eriksen Søreide and Minister of Fisheries Harald Tom Nesvik.

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King Harald and Queen Sonja have arrived in Chile's capital, Santiago today 26 March

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Here's a gallery of day 1:


** gettyimages gallery: Norwegian King Harald V and Queen Sonja Visit Chile - Day 1 **
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King Harald and Queen Sonja were officially welcomed by the President of Chile Sebastian Piñera and the First Lady Cecilia Morel Montes at La Moneda Palace in Santiago, Chile, today, March 27:



** kongehuset: Statsbesøk til Chile ** translation ** rex gallery **


** gettyimages gallery: Norwegian King Harald V and Queen Sonja Visit Chile - Day 2 **


** Pic 1 ** Pic 2 ** Pic 3 ** cooperativa.cl gallery: Presidente Piñera recibió a los reyes de Noruega **
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Thanks, Lyonnaise, Eya, polyesco & Iceflower!

Perhaps it's time to go through some of the reasons for this visit, which is the second Norwegian state visit to Chile and the first one since 1967:

Chile is the second most important market for Norwegian companies in South America after Brazil. I.e. Norway exported goods to Chile worth 1.2 billion NOK in 2018, and there are about 60 Norwegian companies there with activity primarily related to aquaculture and fisheries. And since we're talking about it, let's mention that Chile is now the world's second-largest salmon exporter after Norway, and that we are the largest foreign player in Chile within aquaculture and fisheries. This means that "they (Chile) are both an important market and at the same time a hard competitor for Norwegian aquaculture, which is one of our main industries," as the Minister of Fisheries said it a few days ago.
Other key themes in Norwegian-Chilean relations are Marine cooperation and Antarctica, especially since we share a maritime border between the Chilean Antarctic Territory and the Norwegian territory of Peter I Island.

And as on all state visits, The Regent-Couple will be joined by a business-delegation (this time with over 70 representatives from Norwegian business and industry), organized by ''Innovation Norway,'' which one can read about in this English Wikipedia article (link).

Another thing to mention, is that The King (who is most known here in Norway for his warm, cozy, folksy and charismatic personality and his ''brilliant'' speech-writing/giving skills) has recently been praised by several business-journalists/people and politicians for how he has ''opened doors and promoted Norwegian businesses abroad and at home throughout his years as heir and monarch.''
Yes, he's just doing what the government tells the court to do, but he has been quite successful in it, which is due to his personality. And therefore, the praise is fully deserved, at least IMO.

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BTW: Their ''busy'' 82/81-year-old Majesties (who spent five days attending The Nordic World Ski Championships in Seefeld, Austria, from February 25th to March 1st) already left for South America on March 20th to relax & load their batteries and to adjust to the four-hour time difference, something they always do before long-haul travel these days (leaving Norway for the destination of the host country some days in advance, I mean).
And as always when the monarch is overseas, The Crown Prince is regent.

Programme from The Royal House Calendar:

March 26th:
The King and Queen arrive in Santiago.

March 27th:
The King and Queen lay a wreath at the Bernardo O'Higgins Monument.
The King and Queen are officially welcomed to Chile by His Excellency President Sebastián Piñera Echenique and First Lady Cecilia Morel de Piñera.
The King and Queen meet with His Excellency President Sebastián Piñera Echenique and First Lady Cecilia Morel de Piñera.
The King and Queen attend an official luncheon at the Presidential palace.
The King and Queen visit the Supreme Court of Chile.
The King and Queen visit the National Congress of Chile.
The King and Queen attend a business dinner featuring Norwegian produce, “Taste of Norway”.

March 28th:
The King officially opens a Chilean-Norwegian business seminar. The Queen will also be in attendance.
The King and Queen attend the ceremony marking the return of artefacts and material from the Kon-Tiki Museum to Easter Island.
The King and Queen visit the Mayor of Santiago, Mr Felipe Alessandri.
The King and Queen meet representatives of the Norwegian community in Santiago.
The King and Queen host an official dinner for Chilean and Norwegian guests.

March 29th: Well deserved rest day.

March 30th:
The King officially opens a Chilean-Norwegian seminar on the Antarctic. The Queen will also be in attendance.
The King and Queen are officially welcomed to Punta Arenas.
The King and Queen attend a theme luncheon in Punta Arenas, focusing on the Antarctic.
The King and Queen visit KSAT, Punta Arenas.
The King and Queen take a boating trip on the Strait of Magellan (weather permitting).

Hmm, was there anything else? Yes, let's also talk a bit about the second engagement on March 28th: Because The Regent-Couple will attend a ceremony in Santiago marking the return of artefacts and material (which include skulls, skeletons, hollow stones and rock axes) from The Kon-Tiki Museum in Oslo (English Wikipedia article - link) to the Easter Island (English Wikipedia article - link), after they were taken from there to Norway by the adventurer and anthropologist, Thor Heyerdahl (English Wikipedia article - link), after excavations in 1955-1956.
His 80-year-old son, former chairman of the board at the Museum, Thor Heyerdahl Jr, will also be present.

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P.S. I won't be able to be as active as I was during the state visit to China in October, but I think I've mentioned most details about this visit above in this post.
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They'll use their rest day to travel from Santiago to Puntas Arenas (about 3 1/2 hours - an interesting tidbit is that this return flightused to have the LAN 1 and LAN 2 codes; this seems to have changed when LAN became LATAM).

I wouldn't be surprised if they would visit 'nearby' Torres del Paine national parque in the day(s) after the state visit.
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At congress today
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Day 2
Chile-Norway Business Summit
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The King and Queen attend the ceremony marking the return of artefacts and material from the Kon-Tiki Museum to Easter Island.
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Here's today's entry on the official website:


** kongehuset: Kongeparet i Santiago ** translation **
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The King and Queen in Punta Arenas today, March 30:


** kongehuset: I Punta Arenas ** translation **
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There has been some drama during this visit.
https://jyllands-posten.dk/internati...ntpar-i-chile/

Today, in southern Chile, in the small town of Puerto Williams, some 30-40 demonstrators, some wearing paper crowns, suddenly turned up at the cortege with the Regent Couple. They shouted and banged on the roof of the car with the King and Queen.
Saturday a number of demonstrators blocked the path for the Regent Couple in the town of Punto Arenas.
Here the Regent Couple attempted to start a dialogue with the protestors.

The reason for these demonstrations is the salmon breeding in that part of Chile, which is owned by Norwegian companies. The demonstrators are concerned about the effect on the environment.

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More here: https://www.dagbladet.no/kjendis/kon...anter/70932436

Initially the demonstration yesterday in Punto Arenas was calm, but soon the demonstrators surrounded the Regent Couple and shouted slogans against the Chilean President and the Regent Couple and moved closer. That led to security and police to drag away several protestors.
Security then formed a tight cordon around the Regent Couple.
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Wow, drama indeed. Amazing to see the King and Queen so calm being so close to the protestors.
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Chile is the second most important market for Norwegian companies in South America after Brazil. I.e. Norway exported goods to Chile worth 1.2 billion NOK in 2018, and there are about 60 Norwegian companies there with activity primarily related to aquaculture and fisheries. And since we're talking about it, let's mention that Chile is now the world's second-largest salmon exporter after Norway, and that we are the largest foreign player in Chile within aquaculture and fisheries. This means that "they (Chile) are both an important market and at the same time a hard competitor for Norwegian aquaculture, which is one of our main industries," as the Minister of Fisheries said it a few days ago.
Other key themes in Norwegian-Chilean relations are Marine cooperation and Antarctica, especially since we share a maritime border between the Chilean Antarctic Territory and the Norwegian territory of Peter I Island.
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The King and Queen in Punta Arenas today, March 30:


** kongehuset: I Punta Arenas ** translation **
The King seems to have put the spotlight on sustainability in his speeches during this visit. Taking advantage of the two countries' important role in the fisheries market to push them to similarly lead the way in sustainable aquaculture was a clever intervention.

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Another thing to mention, is that The King (who is most known here in Norway for his warm, cozy, folksy and charismatic personality and his ''brilliant'' speech-writing/giving skills) has recently been praised by several business-journalists/people and politicians for how he has ''opened doors and promoted Norwegian businesses abroad and at home throughout his years as heir and monarch.''
Yes, he's just doing what the government tells the court to do, but he has been quite successful in it, which is due to his personality. And therefore, the praise is fully deserved, at least IMO.
That comment is interesting, as cultures can have extremely different outlooks on what constitutes charisma and warmth, and even whether folksiness is suitable for a king. It would require broad diplomatic skills to successfully translate his personality and eloquence in a way that will be welcomed in all other countries.

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There has been some drama during this visit.
https://jyllands-posten.dk/internati...ntpar-i-chile/

Today, in southern Chile, in the small town of Puerto Williams, some 30-40 demonstrators, some wearing paper crowns, suddenly turned up at the cortege with the Regent Couple. They shouted and banged on the roof of the car with the King and Queen.
Saturday a number of demonstrators blocked the path for the Regent Couple in the town of Punto Arenas.
Here the Regent Couple attempted to start a dialogue with the protestors.

The reason for these demonstrations is the salmon breeding in that part of Chile, which is owned by Norwegian companies. The demonstrators are concerned about the effect on the environment.

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More here: https://www.dagbladet.no/kjendis/kon...anter/70932436

Initially the demonstration yesterday in Punto Arenas was calm, but soon the demonstrators surrounded the Regent Couple and shouted slogans against the Chilean President and the Regent Couple and moved closer. That led to security and police to drag away several protestors.
Security then formed a tight cordon around the Regent Couple.
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Wow, drama indeed. Amazing to see the King and Queen so calm being so close to the protestors.
I agree, and their diplomatic reaction of reaching out to people protesting them is praiseworthy.
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The court about the final day of the state visit, spent in Puerto Williams:


** kongehuset: Avsluttet lengst i sør ** translation **
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Thanks, polyesco, Iceflower & Muhler!

[BTW, be aware that the information in the two above articles is from the controversial/unreliable journalist, Anders Johan Stavseng, who is employed by the even more controversial/unreliable Norwegian gossip magazine ''Se og Hør,'' which is owned by the same company as the Danish version and The Norwegian tabloid Dagbladet, hence why he writes for them as well. And although most of his reporting from Chile seems to be similar to what other journalists have reported, it must be said that he is extremely good when it comes to exaggerations. I.e. sitting in news studios talking about ''wars'' between British/Danish royal family members, etc (stories, most likely, taken from the notorious British tabloid, The Daily Express and the even worse, Danish Se og Hør). He has also been sued (personally) by several Norwegian celebrities.]


And now, let's go in detail about this visit:

March 26th, Santiago:

Video of the official arrival at Santiago International Airport, where Their Majesties were met by The Foreign Minister of Chile, Roberto Ampuero (link). They arrived with a domestic flight (after coming to the country a few days earlier for a short private stay in the southern harbour city of Puerto Montt) and were driven to the greeting spot in a ''bus,'' which has also been used for other visiting heads of state.
And as one can see, The 82-year-old monarch was (as he usually is these days) a bit unsteady, which is due to his leg problems.


March 27th, Santiago:

English Royal House article with lots of information, including a link to The King's speech at the State luncheon (link).

Video of the meeting and press conference at The Presidential palace (link), where The King said that: ''Klimaendringer er uten tvil en av de største truslene verden står overfor slik vi kjenner den'' (Climate change is undoubtedly one of the greatest threats the world faces as we know it).


March 28th, Santiago:

English Royal House article with lots of information, including links to The Regent-Couple's speeches (link).

It should also be mentioned that The King and Queen, already here, were met by a few but loud protesters who demonstrated against the Norwegian aquaculture industry. One of them (Juan Carlos Cardenas, who heads the organization ''Centro Ecoceanos Chile'' which is part of a coalition working to hold the aquaculture industry in the country responsible) said the following to The Norwegian News Agency, NTB: ''The Norwegian fish-farming companies that are present in Chile have double standards. They have very high standards when it comes to the environment; sanitary, social and working conditions in Norway. But worse conditions here in Chile. Why?''


March 29th: Rest day.


March 30th, Punta Arenas:

English Royal House article with lots of information, including a link to The King's speech at the Seminar on the Antarctic (link).

And Their Majesties were again met by loud/shouting protesters, demonstrating for the same cause as on the 28th, although now there were dozens of them. Yes, they even managed to block the royal party from walking over the City's square, leading security people to try and move them aside.
So, what happened? Well, The Queen (who along with His Majesty later told Norwegian media that they were not afraid) ended up talking to them, while The King (as the apolitical constitutional monarch he is) stood and listened carefully:

NTB Photo of The Regent-Couple listening to the demonstrators. - The woman in front with The Queen is Norway's ambassador to Chile, Beate Stirø (who also tried to talk to the protesters); the woman with the blue scarf to The King's left is the court's Communication manager, Guri Varpe; while the woman with the blonde curly hair to his right (behind the other guy) is Lord Chamberlain, Gry Mølleskog (link).

NTB video of Their Majesties walking along, listening and (The Queen) talking to the demonstrators (link).

It all went well, and The Regent-Couple (who, according to Norwegian reporters present, handled it exemplary) were led safely into the City Hall, where they met the city's mayor, followed by a meeting with the media where The King said: ''Vi har opplevd det som en meningsytring, og det må de få lov til. Det er gledelig å se at demokratiet fungerer. Det er det her et tegn på.
De er helt klart bekymret for egen fremtid. Det må de få lov til. Og de må få lov til å gi uttrykk for det. Det må lages regler og lover som gjør at det blir ordentlig bærekraftig også for dem.''
Translated to: ''We have experienced this as a speech of opinion, and that, they must be allowed to. It is gratifying to see that democracy works. This is a sign of that.
They are clearly concerned about their own future. That, they must be allowed to. And they must be allowed to express it. Rules and laws must be created that make it properly sustainable, also for them.''

And here, I think I would have to explain my translations:

''And that, they must be allowed to''? Yes, I could instead have written, ''and that must be allowed,'' but it was not what he said. And the reason I wrote ''that'' and not ''this,'' is because he said ''det,'' which in this context means ''that'' (in another context, it could also mean ''it'').

''Speech of opinion''? Yes, I could have written, ''expression of free speech,'' but again, that was not what he said.


March 31st, Puerto Williams:

English Royal House article with lots of information (link).

And again, more demonstrations. This time the protesters, who followed Their Majesties around the town, were pretty aggressive and some of them had to be put to the ground by the police. According to NTB, NRK and TV2, there were about 40-50 of them, while the ''Se og Hør'' dude (mentioned at the beginning of the post) said 30 to 40 (must have been the first time that guy had the lower number). They even managed, as Muhler wrote, to attack the car with The King and Queen, knocking on its roof and shouting slogans. This happened when the royal party were on their way from the airport.
The Regent-Couple were then safely transported to the mayor's house, which was also surrounded by demonstrators. - And although they looked calm when they met with some of the protesters afterwards, when The King was handed a letter from them, it must (according to a Norwegian reporter present) have been a pretty "scary experience" for a couple in their 80s.

BTW: Must say I agree with a Norwegian security expert who is quite surprised that these demonstrations came so out of control. And although these protesters had no intention of harming Their Majesties The King and the Queen, there could always have been some lunatics joining in.

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And then to a short summary of this state visit: Well, despite all the drama; several business deals have been signed (not sure how many yet), while Their Majesties have smiled, looked interested and been on top form. And apart from the people already mentioned in the above posts (I.e. the ministers and representatives of Norwegian businesses), The King and Queen were also accompanied by a bunch of courtiers. - Including Lord Chamberlain, Gry Mølleskog; and Communication manager, Guri Varpe (both mentioned some sentences above); private secretaries, lackeys (the word still used by the court to describe their butlers/footmen), dressers and God knows whom.
They were also followed by several officers from ''The Norwegian Royal Police Escort.'' A protection unit of around 70 men/women, under the auspices of The Oslo Police District, responsible for safeguarding all NRF members domestically and abroad.
The Norwegian government, OTOH, is protected by PST (The Norwegian Police Security Service).

Media coverage: Although not on par with that on the state visit to China last year, The Norwegian Broadcasting Corporation (NRK) sent down their Royal correspondent, Kristi Marie Skrede, plus a reporter and a cameraperson; the tabloid Dagbladet sent down their ''Se og Hør'' dude (mentioned twice in this post already); while The Norwegian News Agency (NTB) sent down two reporters and two photographers to cover it for all other media outlets, resulting in several television clips and articles. - Which is pretty much standard for state visits; the difference now was that the coverage drowned in news about ''angry protesters.''

And then to the big question, will The Regent-Couple continue with state visits in the future despite their age? According to what The King and Court have said in interviews in recent years, yes, as long as they are up to it! Especially now I think, when the situation is the way it is, I.e. with the Crown Princess. And although The King was operated for bladder cancer in 2003, heart problems in 2005, admitted to hospital for an infection in 2017, suffers from back/leg pain and breathing heavily when walking in stairs; he says he ''feels fine'' and ''likes being busy.'' And The Queen (despite suffering from arthritis) is as fit as a 40-year-old, I mean she's still flying around in Norwegian mountains/woods with her skiing, running and walking.
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No more space to write in the previous post, so let's continue here:

But isn't the programme during this visit a bit tight for a couple in their 80s, asked Norwegian reporters present in Chile. To which The King replied: ''Sånn er statsbesøk. Enten så gjør vi statsbesøk, og da blir det sånn. Eller så gjør vi ikke statsbesøk.'' (That's how state visits are. Either we make state visits, and then it will be like that. Or we don't make state visits.)
Their Majesties were also asked what the secret is, to endure these visits? ''Having a good night's sleep,'' The King said; while The Queen replied in her usual way: ''Staying in shape.''

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Hmm was there anything else? Apart from the fact that The King and Queen were safely back in Norway on April 2nd, no, not really!

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The King seems to have put the spotlight on sustainability in his speeches during this visit. Taking advantage of the two countries' important role in the fisheries market to push them to similarly lead the way in sustainable aquaculture was a clever intervention.
Yes, although it must be said that in contrast to his New Year's Eve Address, The Stortings-dinner speech and speeches during royal jubilees and events of tragedies which he writes himself with some input from his Private Secretary since 1994, the 62-year-old theologian, Knut Brakstad; political speeches regarding outward/inward state visits are (as you probably know, since we are talking about an apolitical constitutional monarch here) written by the court (with some input from The King) in close cooperation with the Foreign Ministry.

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That comment is interesting, as cultures can have extremely different outlooks on what constitutes charisma and warmth, and even whether folksiness is suitable for a king. It would require broad diplomatic skills to successfully translate his personality and eloquence in a way that will be welcomed in all other countries.
With ''folksy'' I mean sociable and informal in meetings with other people (BTW that doesn't mean they have to go around hugging them). And this is a quality that seems to be pretty much accepted/appreciated in other European monarchies as well, be it the monarch or other family members.

The UK: The Cornwalls, Cambridges, Sussexes and Sophie; shake hands and sometimes hug people during walkabouts/meetings. While The Queen herself went on walkabouts with her smiling face from 1970 to 2013 - and was nicknamed ''The People's Queen'' by the British media at the time of her 80/90th Birthdays and Diamond Jubilee. And with the exception of a few commentators who (among other things) don't like the informal style of the younger royals, most people seem to enjoy/appreciate it. And these commentators will, of course, not mention the fact (or are unaware) that Charles is as informal in his meetings with people as his sons are, since that would pretty much destroy their argument.

Denmark: King Frederik IX was pretty folksy, and that despite the fact that we're talking about the 1950s/1960s here, while Queen Ingrid was more regal. And it seems to be the same today with The CP-Couple; Frederik is folksy (and most Danish commentators/experts praises him for it), while Mary is more regal. So in these two cases, you have both.
And yes, in a way, one can say that they complement each other.

While in Sweden and The Netherlands (two RF which I don't follow that much); Victoria is VERY folksy, and most people seem to enjoy/appreciate it. We can say the same about some of the Dutch RF members, including Queen Juliana (despite the fact that she reigned from 1948 to 1980).

And let's also take the Japanese Imperial family, who may not be considered comparable to their European counterparts.
Because we are talking about a Regent-Couple here who have made it their goal to bring the family closer to the public and who sits on the floor with evacuated people during natural disasters. And with the exception of a few ultra-conservatives, most people seem to enjoy/appreciate it.

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Thank you very much for the superbly descriptive post about the state visit! And for the extensive response to my comments as well.

Replying to the latter first:

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Yes, although it must be said that in contrast to his New Year's Eve Address, The Stortings-dinner speech and speeches during royal jubilees and events of tragedies which he writes himself with some input from his Private Secretary since 1994, the 62-year-old theologian, Knut Brakstad; political speeches regarding outward/inward state visits are (as you probably know, since we are talking about an apolitical constitutional monarch here) written by the court (with some input from The King) in close cooperation with the Foreign Ministry.
Thank you for the reminder. I have a propensity to think of all the speeches delivered by the King as "his", owing to his charismatic personality in part, but also because a number of the stories you've shared here illustrate the esteem in which Norwegian politicians (and the public) hold the King.

In consequence, it seems improbable to me that the Foreign Ministry would ask the King to make any statements which violated his conscience or feelings. Perhaps that's why the several speeches I've read in translation which were delivered by the King on foreign visits haven't given the sense of being obviously political, but concentrating on the social and exchange components of the visit.

I did notice that he addressed electric cars, which seems to be a priority for Norwegian governments(?).


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But isn't the programme during this visit a bit tight for a couple in their 80s, asked Norwegian reporters present in Chile. To which The King replied: ''Sånn er statsbesøk. Enten så gjør vi statsbesøk, og da blir det sånn. Eller så gjør vi ikke statsbesøk.'' (That's how state visits are. Either we make state visits, and then it will be like that. Or we don't make state visits.)
Their Majesties were also asked what the secret is, to endure these visits? ''Having a good night's sleep,'' The King said; while The Queen replied in her usual way: ''Staying in shape.''
It hadn't occurred to me that the schedule of a state visit must be hectic even by diplomatic measures, but that is wholly understandable given that a state visit between two nations is generally an opportunity that presents itself once in a generation. Kudos to the King and Queen for adapting to meet the physical demands, although I wonder how it will be handled the day their health becomes too frail.

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With ''folksy'' I mean sociable and informal in meetings with other people (BTW that doesn't mean they have to go around hugging them). And this is a quality that seems to be pretty much accepted/appreciated in other European monarchies as well, be it the monarch or other family members.

The UK: The Cornwalls, Cambridges, Sussexes and Sophie; shake hands and sometimes hug people during walkabouts/meetings. While The Queen herself went on walkabouts with her smiling face from 1970 to 2013 - and was nicknamed ''The People's Queen'' by the British media at the time of her 80/90th Birthdays and Diamond Jubilee. And with the exception of a few commentators who (among other things) don't like the informal style of the younger royals, most people seem to enjoy/appreciate it. And these commentators will, of course, not mention the fact (or are unaware) that Charles is as informal in his meetings with people as his sons are, since that would pretty much destroy their argument.

Denmark: King Frederik IX was pretty folksy, and that despite the fact that we're talking about the 1950s/1960s here, while Queen Ingrid was more regal. And it seems to be the same today with The CP-Couple; Frederik is folksy (and most Danish commentators/experts praises him for it), while Mary is more regal. So in these two cases, you have both.
And yes, in a way, one can say that they complement each other.

While in Sweden and The Netherlands (two RF which I don't follow that much); Victoria is VERY folksy, and most people seem to enjoy/appreciate it. We can say the same about some of the Dutch RF members, including Queen Juliana (despite the fact that she reigned from 1948 to 1980).

And let's also take the Japanese Imperial family, who may not be considered comparable to their European counterparts.
Because we are talking about a Regent-Couple here who have made it their goal to bring the family closer to the public and who sits on the floor with evacuated people during natural disasters. And with the exception of a few ultra-conservatives, most people seem to enjoy/appreciate it.

That is a good selection of observations from European (and one Asian) royal families, and I admittedly cannot see an issue with any of it. But it raises the question of why it is that, granting that informality is widely appreciated, every constitutional monarchy (I suppose it's natural that monarchs of dictatorships are not known for their folksiness) continues to see a number of royals and/or monarchists who insist on royals being revered and disdain the folksier style?
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