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Old 07-31-2006, 11:50 AM
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Oh you can bet your life some analyst on an 8 figure salary is picking apart every part of this photograph, trying to convince viewers of Richard and Judy that her hand there means this and his eyes mean this and......it's a kiss! It's a kiss and that's all there is to it. Why do people have to always try and find something wrong?
I know.They are a loving,married couple who are both affectionate anyway.There is no need for the kiss to be analysed...as you said it's just an ordinary kiss between two people who are desperately in love!
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Old 07-31-2006, 04:46 PM
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But its a very affectionatly kiss. You don´t kiss someone with open mouth, if you are not in love. If its a formal or only friendly kiss, you shut your mouth
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Old 07-31-2006, 05:39 PM
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I see the press STILL compare Diana and Camilla and everything Camilla does is likened to Diana.They are two separate people and in my opinion,Camilla is by far the better woman.
Charles and Camilla seem totally away with the moment, unlike the other kiss, where Charles looks somewhat reluctant.
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Old 07-31-2006, 05:48 PM
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They will always be compared.
Only by some who forget that she was his deceased EX wife. As everyone else has said, we have no need to defend Camilla, his very loved and loving wife. :bash:
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Old 07-31-2006, 05:58 PM
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Old 07-31-2006, 06:05 PM
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Oh you can bet your life some analyst on an 8 figure salary is picking apart every part of this photograph, trying to convince viewers of Richard and Judy that her hand there means this and his eyes mean this and......it's a kiss! It's a kiss and that's all there is to it. Why do people have to always try and find something wrong?
The interesting thing for me is that one kiss was between a new husband and his virgin wife (chaste indeed!) while the other one was between two people who have shared more than one kiss in private (LOL!). How can someone get the idea to compare these kisses! It's absurd, there's no other word for it.

But I like it, I absolutely like how Charles and Camilla slowly introduce the public to their affection - I mean, Queen Mum probably spins in her grave while the queen eventually subpressed a little smile when she saw the kiss either directly or its pic in the paper. But isn't it so nice to see other people happy? I wish there were more news like that... (thinking about the reality of this world...)
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Old 07-31-2006, 06:29 PM
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Oh I don't think the Queen Mother would be spinning. She loved Charles so much that she'd be happy for him and she got on well with Camilla when she met. Apparantly, the only thing the Queen Mother ever said on the issue was, "Charles needs to make a decision", so I think she'd be happy that he finally made it and stood up for himself. He was so devoted to her and she to him that I think anything he did the Queen Mother would be happy about. And we know that she didn't like Di. But you're right Jo, to compare the two kisses is ridiculous. I remember The Sun headline the day after they married which was "Why won't he give her one?.....A kiss that is" and I remember thinking then, what so you can run that balcony pic?
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Old 08-01-2006, 01:11 AM
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Oh you can bet your life some analyst on an 8 figure salary is picking apart every part of this photograph, trying to convince viewers of Richard and Judy that her hand there means this and his eyes mean this and......it's a kiss! It's a kiss and that's all there is to it. Why do people have to always try and find something wrong?
Because it sells more newspapers.
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Old 08-01-2006, 09:43 AM
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There seems to be only one picture of them kissing are there any more?
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Old 08-01-2006, 10:34 AM
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Because it sells more newspapers.
I don't think it actually sells more papers. I don't even think readers want to read stuff that has neither news in it nor is pleasant to read.

But probably each tabloid has an editor who is specialized in the Royal topic who needs to defend his position in the editing department by presenting stories. I mean: such an editor cost money. He needs to be in constant contact with picture agencies and "sources" of all kind so not to miss it if something is really happening. And contact is not enough: in order to be the first to be offered interesting news and pictures he has to be a constant buyer - even if he can't buy anything substancial other that a picture of Kate Middleton at a bus stop. So this costs additional money - forcing the editor to present something printable, no matter what.

It's more like an industry - not much different from the car manufactureres who have to support their suppliers even in bad years to make sure the still exist when their products are in more demand. The art of the managers and of the editors is to balance their spending: to make sure their supporting of their back-up network is not costing too much.

Plus in the daily conferences of the editing department of a tabloid surely each editor has to present something worth printing in order to protect his position from younger collegues who surely believe they can do the job better than he. All that force the "Royal" editors into a race they can't win - and neither can the Royals.

But that's how it is - but IMHo it has not much to do with the readers wishing to read such ridiculous comparisons of the way a man has kissed as young groom and 25 years later as an experienced husband....
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Old 08-01-2006, 02:56 PM
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If anyone has read "Charles and Camilla:the love story" it says in there that Charles told his closest friends he wanted his wedding to Camilla to be THEIR day and the reason for not kissing her was indeed due to risk of the papers comparing the balcony kiss with that one.It also states that he kissed her before they came out of the registery office and was endlessly planting kisses on her at the reception...to which she dutifully returned!
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Old 08-01-2006, 04:41 PM
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The interesting thing for me is that one kiss was between a new husband and his virgin wife (chaste indeed!) while the other one was between two people who have shared more than one kiss in private (LOL!). How can someone get the idea to compare these kisses! It's absurd, there's no other word for it.
My comparison was between an experienced (according to some) Charles then and Charles now. He looked as if he was really enjoying the kiss with his wife Camilla.
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Old 08-01-2006, 04:53 PM
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The best commentary on this came from James Whittaker, that self-confessed expert on all things Windsor;

Oh yes, well, Charles obviously loves her.

Woah James! All this new information you're giving us! We can't cope. Please go back to the old days when you fed us tales told to you by your "insiders". Ah no, that's right, your "insiders" forgot to tell you they were getting married didn't they?

I still laugh when I think of that morning the wedding was announced and Whittaker appeared, red faced, angry and beside himself with rage saying, "The Queen won't go. She's furious. Charles didn't tell her. This just won't go ahead. It's all wrong. My sources tell me it's a mistake". My my didn't he look a twerp. Royal expert indeed....
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I once saw a "Biography" program about Edward and Sophie (produced around the time they got married). It was mentioned that, sometime before they were engaged, James Whitaker said he heard it from one of his "sources" that they were breaking up. So much for the reliability of Whitaker's "sources".
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Old 08-01-2006, 05:24 PM
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The best commentary on this came from James Whittaker, that self-confessed expert on all things Windsor;

Oh yes, well, Charles obviously loves her.
I have to say: the guy is a genius! I really should watch the BBC more often, maybe he comes along sometime and I get a chance to finally see this man who keeps us TRF-people busy with all his interesting insights and sources.
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Old 08-01-2006, 05:44 PM
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I once saw a "Biography" program about Edward and Sophie (produced around the time they got married). It was mentioned that, sometime before they were engaged, James Whitaker said he heard it from one of his "sources" that they were breaking up. So much for the reliability of Whitaker's "sources".
One should never forget that the British RF is foremost British. Even though they may have a lot of German blood, they surely have a British sense of humour. As Whitaker is a somewhat ridiculous figure who, at least to me, appears like a person right out of an Oscar Wilde-comedy or a "Jeeves"-book by Wodehouse, I wouldn't wonder if they sometimes joke about him on feeding him wrong information, making him look in public as ridiculous, pompous and up-startish as he is (okay, anyone can have his own impression about how much that is!). Plus making his life as difficult as his is making theirs, if only for a moment.

But maybe I'm wrong and the Royals are far above thoughts like that....
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Old 08-01-2006, 05:45 PM
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I have to say: the guy is a genius!
Oh he's a genius alright Maxie. He's on a massive salary for talking rubbish. Every time he speaks, people have to correct him. He was well and truly shown up by Gyles Brandreth. Brandreth was talking about his Charles and Camilla book and Whittaker attempted to be intelligent and make a comment about Camilla to which Gyles replied, "That is arse gravy of the highest order James, Camilla did not do that and you know it". I loved it.
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I am happy for Charles and Camilla but you can not change the fact of who is William and Harry's mother. I just said myself the other day. If you can except the mother then you can not except the children. This also goes for FATHERS. I do think that it is stupid to compare the two women, but to say that Camilla is the better one, just is not true. They both have done great thing for the BRF. Camilla just happens to be the one that makes Charles happy, but that does not get rid of all the good that Diana did.
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Old 08-02-2006, 01:47 PM
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Camilla just happens to be the one that makes Charles happy, but that does not get rid of all the good that Diana did.
Why in the hell are we talking about Diana in Charles and Camilla's Current Events?

Whatever we may say or not say about Diana, she is not part of Charles' and Camilla's current events.
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