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Old 05-17-2014, 11:22 PM
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Not all European monarchs are descended from George II. The closest common ancestor of all hereditary European monarchs is Johan Willem Friso of Orange, Prince of Orange.

The argument that all kings (and Queens) of Europe are descended from either Victoria or Christian IX (or both) except Willem-Alexander also doesn't take into consideration that not all European monarchies are kingdoms. If memory serves, neither Hans-Adam of Liechtenstein nor Albert II of Monaco are descended from Victoria, Christian IX, or George II. . I'm also pretty sure that Henri of Luxembourg isn't descended from Victoria or Christian IX.
Yes, you are right. What I meant was that all current reigning monarchs of European kingdoms (i.e excluding sovereign princes and grand dukes) descend from George II, which is a fact.
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Old 05-17-2014, 11:45 PM
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Not all European monarchs are descended from George II. The closest common ancestor of all hereditary European monarchs is Johan Willem Friso of Orange, Prince of Orange.

The argument that all kings (and Queens) of Europe are descended from either Victoria or Christian IX (or both) except Willem-Alexander also doesn't take into consideration that not all European monarchies are kingdoms. If memory serves, neither Hans-Adam of Liechtenstein nor Albert II of Monaco are descended from Victoria, Christian IX, or George II. . I'm also pretty sure that Henri of Luxembourg isn't descended from Victoria or Christian IX.

Henri of Luxemburg is actually a descendant of Christian IX through Princess Ingeborg of Sweden, granddaughter of CIX and great grandmother of HOL
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Queen Elizabeth II, Prince Philip, King Juan Carlos of Spain, Queen Sofia of Spain, King Carl XVI Gustaf of Sweden, Queen Margrethe II of Denmark, and King Harald V of Norway are all great-great-grandchildren of Queen Victoria of the United Kingdom.

In addition, Queen Elizabeth II, Prince Philip, King Harald V , Queen Margrethe II , Queen Sofia, and former King Albert II of Belgium are all great-great-grandchildren of King Christian IX of Denmark.

In fact, King Willem Alexander of the Netherlands is currently the only European king descended from neither Queen Victoria nor King Christian IX. He is however a rather distant relative of all other European monarchs through their common descent from King George II of the United Kingdom.

Don't know about all the others but do know that Philip is only a great-grandchild of Christian IX of Denmark - Christian - William (George I of the Hellenes) - Andrew - Philip.

The Queen is definitely a great-great-grandchild - Christian - Alexandra - George V - George VI - Elizabeth.
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Old 05-18-2014, 03:35 AM
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Not all European monarchs are descended from George II. The closest common ancestor of all hereditary European monarchs is Johan Willem Friso of Orange, Prince of Orange.
It is Johan Willem Friso of Nassau, Prince of Orange.



The Prince had only two children but due to a succesful marriage policy, he became the closest common ancestor of all hereditary European monarchs.

His son Willem IV of Orange-Nassau would marry Anne of Great Britain and Hannover, The Princess Royal, after the Stuarts the first Hannover in the genealogical tree of the Oranges.

His daughter Amalia of Orange-Nassau married at the first eye not so prestigious: with Friedrich Prince von Baden-Durlach, but their son would -as Markgraf, Kurfürst and Grand Duke of Baden - and a Reign of 73 years (!) become one of the most influential monarchs of his time.
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Old 05-18-2014, 06:27 AM
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Don't know about all the others but do know that Philip is only a great-grandchild of Christian IX of Denmark - Christian - William (George I of the Hellenes) - Andrew - Philip.

The Queen is definitely a great-great-grandchild - Christian - Alexandra - George V - George VI - Elizabeth.
Yes, that is correct.

The other lines from Christian IX are as follows:

Christian IX - Frederick VIII- Christian X- Frederick IX - Margrethe II

Christian IX - Frederick VIII- Ingeborg of Denmark- Astrid of Sweden -Albert II of Belgium


Queen Sofia of Spain on the other hand descends from Christian IX on two lines:

Christian IX- George I of Greece - Constantine I of Greece - Paul of Greece- Queen Sofia

Christian IX - Princess Thyra of Denmark- Ernst August, Duke of Brunswick-Princess Frederika of Hanover-Queen Sofia

Finally, King Harald V is also a great-great-grandson of Christian IX in two lines:

Christian IX- Princess Alexandra of Denmark- Maud of Wales - Olav V of Norway- Harald V of Norway

Christian IX- Frederick VIII of Denmark- Haakon VII of Norway - Olav V of Norway -Harald V of Norway.

The lines from Queen Victoria on the other hand are:

Queen Victoria- Princess Alice- Princess Victoria of Hesse and by the Rhine- Princess Alice of Battenberg-Philip, Duke of Edinburgh

Queen Victoria - Edward VII - George V- George VI- Elizabeth II

Queen Victoria- Edward VII- Maud of Wales-Olav V of Norway- Harald V of Norway

Queen Victoria - Prince Arthur, Duke of Connaught- Princess Margareth of Connaught - Ingrid of Sweden-Margrethe II of Denmark


Queen Victoria- The Princess Beatrice - Victoria Eugenie of Battenberg- Infante Juan, Count of Barcelona- Juan Carlos of Spain.

King Carl XVI Gustaf in turn is a great-great-grandson of Queen Victoria in two lines, as shown below.

Queen Victoria - Prince Arthur, Duke of Connaught- Princess Margareth of Connaught - Prince Gustav Adolf, Duke of Västerbotten- Carl XVI Gustaf of Sweden

Queen Victoria- Prince Leoplod, Duke of Albany- Charles Edward, Duke of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha- Princess Sybilla of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha- Carl XVI Gustaf of Sweden

Similarly, Queen Sofia is a great-great-granddaughter of Victoria in one line and a great- great- great-granddaughter in another.

Queen Victoria-Victoria, Princess Royal- Sophia of Greece- Paul I of Greece- Sofia of Spain.

Queen Victoria- Victoria, Princess Royal- Wilheim II, German Emperor-Princess Viktoria Luise of Prussia-Frederika of Hanover-Sofia of Spain


King Willem-Alexander of the Netherlands is distantly related to all of the above , as I claimed before, by their common descent from George II of the United Kingdom

George II - Anne, Princess Royal- Willem V, Prince of Orange- Willem I of the Netherlands-Willem II of the Netherlands-Willem III of the Netherlands- Wilhemina-Juliana-Beatrix-Willem Alexander.

George II - Frederick, Prince of Wales- George III of the United Kingdom-Prince Edward, Duke of Kent-Queen Victoria-{aforementioned royal lines}.

George II- Princess Louise of Great Britain- Princess Louise of Denmark and Norway-Louise Caroline, Duchess of Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glücksburg- Christian IX - {aforementioned royal lines}.
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another fan of WA and maxima, prince felix of luxembourg answers, when asked which royals he is closest too, points out to the king and queen of the netherlands, saying that "he knows them best" and that the dutch royals are like family to them. you can see the interview through the link below, the interview is in english.

Exclusief interview met prins Felix en prinses Claire
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The Nassaus and Orange-Nassaus are indeed related. Félix is double related with the children of Princess Irene via the shared Bourbon-Parma ancestry. The couple live in a provençal paradise at their Château les Crostes. The views are unbeatable. It is a pity that the original 17th C view on the typical provençal château is quite destroyed by that too nouveau-riche looking swimmingpool, almost glued to it (plus that helicopter deck in the park). I would have chosen for a more classic rectangular pool with mosaïque tiles and lined by those typical cipresses but okay, that is my personal preference.

I am not sure Prince Félix and his spouse Claire are really befriended with the Oranges. They just know them and that is it. He told that the members of European royal families meet each other also outside the publicity but it is difficult to arrrange something because of the many different schedules and agendas.

Château les Crostes now: http://quintessentiallytravel.com/as...c05bf7fa7f.JPG

Château les Crostes in 1958:
http://www.chateau-les-crostes.eu/si...u_Doisneau.jpg
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According to Roger Lundgren, the editor-in-chief of Kungliga magasinet, who has written The "Jubileumsbok" book of queen Silvia in 2013, queen Silvia and princess Takamado are good friends.
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GD Maria teresa gave an interview on improving the transparency of the luxembourg royalty.

she added "When I look around us," she concludes, "I think few would dispute that for Spain, the Netherlands, Belgium, Sweden and even Jordan, it's an asset to have a spouse who, with the head of the state, contributes to the influence of the monarchy."

i understand this is an acknowledgement of the admiration of the grand duchess towards the role that letizia, maxima, mathilde, daniel and rania are doing as royal spouses...

http://www.wort.lu/en/luxembourg/int...ea9dff8fa73e9f
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i understand this is an acknowledgement of the admiration of the grand duchess towards the role that letizia, maxima, mathilde, daniel and rania are doing as royal spouses...

Luxemburger Wort - "Transparent" monarchy: the court is prepared to face a tribunal
Wouldn't it be Silvia and not Daniel as the spouse of the head of state (Carl Gustaf)
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CP Frederik and CP Haakon joining in a ski race together
http://www.seher.no/imgfly/941/529/s...?itok=UWZRSbCW

and back in the 70s.
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