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Old 09-27-2019, 05:29 AM
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But now there was supposed to be a real marriage. Supposed, as no prove was ever given for it. On September 14th 1977 he might have been married a Jacquenline de Peyrebrune in Paris. He met her during the war in the resistance, he was Monsieur Richard, she Madame Schaak. Charles himself never said a word about the marriage, documents that would prove that a marriage had taken place disappeared and the Belgian court doesn´t say a word about this marriage: ´no comment´.
Even though the Belgian court denies this marriage, how likely is it that this was legit, as they only had a religious marriage ceremony in Paris?

Jacqueline Peyrebrune died in 2014. Does anyone perhaps know the exact date of her death?
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Old 09-27-2019, 06:12 AM
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I read her book , this was not legit and no civil wedding.
He has a daughter who is still living Mme Wibo, very discret old Lady. I don't know her Mother ?
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I read her book , this was not legit and no civil wedding.
He has a daughter who is still living Mme Wibo, very discret old Lady. I don't know her Mother ?
Does for this wedding of Charles with Jacqueline Peybrune apply the same as for Leopold I with Karoline Bauer, namely that it didn't take place and therefor has to be ignored?
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The final word seems to be in L'Allemagne Dynastique, vol VII p 385 quoting Mme Schaack nee Peyrebrune herself and the statement issued after the blessing of her and Prince Charles. Here is my translation: "The religious marriage of Prince Charles does not appear in the Paris, Franceh registers of Saint Pierre de Mountrouge. However, Mme Schaack, nee Jacqueline Peyrebrune...has kindly informed us of the strictly private blessing happily given, eight months after the death of M Georges Schaack, on 14.9.1977 by Father Marcelino Carrera who has given the following attestation: The private blessing uniting before God Charles Theodore count of Flanders and Louise Marie Jacqueline Peyrebrune was given at Saint Peter's at the altar of the Sacred Heart on 14 September 1977. The mutual legal consent was received by your humble brother in Christ [Fr Carrera] in the presence of Father Keller and witnesses [comtesse Annie de Bergeret and Mme Marie Jeannette Aurelie Menahes]. The statement is also signed by the participants and witnesses. Similarly, Madame Jacqueline (de) Peyrebrune who published in 1991 through Editions Tarmeye her memoirs with the title Love in Shadow - the secret garden of Prince Charles of Belgium followed in 1993, by the same publisher, by Carnets intimes....It seems from the correspondence we have exchanged that she considers the union as strictly private and celebrated only devant Dieu. Also, it should be noted that a religious marriage cannot legally take place in French law unless it has been preceded by a civil one." There was no religious marriage and no civil one. So, technically, Prince Charles died unmarried. ...
Source: Richard Thornton

I am not sure if this statement indicates a legally invalid religious wedding or a blessing which did not even qualify as a religious wedding (are there other, non-marital forms of union blessed by the Catholic Church?).


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I read her book , this was not legit and no civil wedding.
He has a daughter who is still living Mme Wibo, very discret old Lady. I don't know her Mother ?
It was said on another forum that the mother was Jacqueline Wehrli, whose husband Arthur Wybo was the official father of Isabelle.
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Yes , you are right Tatania and better informed than myself...
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Thank you Tatiana, for shining a light on this matter, since this clearly shows it was a private matter between prince Charles and Jacqueline Peyrebrune.

Since you're so well informed, do you perhaps also know when Jacqueline died exactly? I know she died at Saint-Hilaire-de-la-Noaille in September 2014, but I don't know the exact day.
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I'm afraid I am not particularly well informed. I have come across the date of September 15, 2014, regarding Mrs. Schaak, but I have no knowledge of what the source might be.
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Prince Charles was in love with Jacqueline Wehrli but he could not marry bacause she was a Communor. So as she was pregnant , he asked Mr Wybo to marry her. Isabelle is not Mr Wybo daughter.

Later King Leopolg III married himself a Communor.
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