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As to whether or not Charlene was on the invitation list for the wedding is speculation because the Royal family issued a statement saying they were not releasing the list until the day of the wedding. The reason for this is that it is considered bad form for a royal to regret another royals invitation. Thus for those royals unable to attend for reasons other than health or duty elsewhere, it is better for the family not to release the names of those invited. In addition by not listing the names invited, helps limit the security risks since the public will not know who will be there until that day. (translation: it keeps the nut cases at a limited number, not to mention groupies)
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As to whether or not Charlene was on the invitation list for the wedding is speculation because the Royal family issued a statement saying they were not releasing the list until the day of the wedding. The reason for this is that it is considered bad form for a royal to regret another royals invitation. Thus for those royals unable to attend for reasons other than health or duty elsewhere, it is better for the family not to release the names of those invited. In addition by not listing the names invited, helps limit the security risks since the public will not know who will be there until that day. (translation: it keeps the nut cases at a limited number, not to mention groupies)
Hibou, Charlene was invited to the Parliamentary Wedding. Post 674 and 675 have the article with the list however, it wasn't translated nor would the article translate in full for me. Below is what the top of the article says.

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Festival - This is all the names

The guest list to the Parliamentary wedding. The day after most of them are expected to attend the royal wedding between Princess Victoria and Daniel Westling.


1 / Members of Parliament with the respective
2 / The government members, with each
3 / King and Queen and royal family
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H.R.H. Prince Félix
S.A.S. Le Prince Albert II
Charlene Wittstock
H.M. Queen Beatrix
H.R.H. the Prince of Orange och H.R.H. Princess Máxima
H.R.H. Prince Friso of Orange-Nassau och Princess Mabel of Orange-Nassau, Mrs. Van Amsberg
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As to whether or not Charlene was on the invitation list for the wedding is speculation because the Royal family issued a statement saying they were not releasing the list until the day of the wedding. The reason for this is that it is considered bad form for a royal to regret another royals invitation. Thus for those royals unable to attend for reasons other than health or duty elsewhere, it is better for the family not to release the names of those invited. In addition by not listing the names invited, helps limit the security risks since the public will not know who will be there until that day. (translation: it keeps the nut cases at a limited number, not to mention groupies)
She's been invited to the events the days before the wedding, why shouldn't she turn up to the actual wedding.
As LadyMacAlpine said, it isn't a list from the royal family, but one from parliament, these guests are most likely to attend the actual wedding. Minus a few e.g. Princes William and Harry.
Millions of people will turn out even nut cases or hard core royal fans just to see the swedish royal family. They know it's going to be a big event, and it will most likely attract the highest ranking royals from across the globe.
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Charlene will attend to the activities on the 18th June according to the published list, but yet unknown to the wedding ceremony......................... Friday, June 18
The government's reception for the local government, City Hall
Host: The Government
Dinner, Eric Ericsson hall
Host: The Government
Gala performance, the Concert Hall
Saturday, June 19, 15:30 - ceremony in Stockholm Cathedral, Stockholm. This is followed by procession and the process of king's sloop Vasa.
Wedding Dinner at the Royal Palace, Stockholm
Host: King and Queen Original source: Kungafamiljen - Sveriges Kungahus [NS4 version] ... 17133.html English translation: Google Translate The guest list was taken out between the parliament and the royal court. There will be a festival concert at the Eric Ericson hall in the Concert House of Stockholm on the 18th June 2010 8.30 p.m. the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra will play. It will be monitored diret via Swedish TV (svt). It is the government that gave the Concert House an assignment to arrange the official party because of the wedding. It will be hosted the prime minister Fredrik Reinfelt and his wife Filippa. On April 30th to the Expressen, the information chief of royal court, Nina Eldh, said that they won't reveal the list of guests to the wedding ceremony (the 19th June 2010) until a few days before the wedding day.
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So let me get this straight Charlene is invited and the Queen of England is not? Not to mention, Maddie's Ex is on that list too--- isn't that cozy. I guess this is why I seldom post here. Kool-aid anyone.
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So let me get this straight Charlene is invited and the Queen of England is not? Not to mention, Maddie's Ex is on that list too--- isn't that cozy. I guess this is why I seldom post here. Kool-aid anyone.
You got it Pontiac and we have someone even mentioning a tiara... on Charlene's head. ... to boot/.. and then another almost sounding that the wedding will be like a possible final rock concert by the Rolling Stones.-Madonna was not invited.

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She's been invited to the events the days before the wedding, why shouldn't she turn up to the actual wedding.
As LadyMacAlpine said, it isn't a list from the royal family, but one from parliament, these guests are most likely to attend the actual wedding. Minus a few e.g. Princes William and Harry.
Millions of people will turn out even nut cases or hard core royal fans just to see the swedish royal family. They know it's going to be a big event, and it will most likely attract the highest ranking royals from across the globe.
I can tel U are from England because U know your Princes will not turn up then U say Charlene[denigrating her in a way] along with all nut cases should come from far and wide to even see or attend this very right wing event... go to the wedding.... hard core royals are very right wing individuals and Europe is such a mess .. Greece Portugal and Spain.. wow!! Just a girl from South Africa with a dream hobnobbing with the houses of Gotha. I am excited for her.
What tiara is Charlene going to wear to the wedding itself have U made calculated guess?

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Seriously? You can not see from my post here or my many previous posts here what I'm saying? I agree with you!!! I do not think Charlene is owed a thing or that she sould be able to barter a title? You have had to have read some of my posts through the years? In reference to Charlene, I said "trying" I'm saying yes it is "a tactic" that Charlene has been "trying" all along even here on these forums and yes I do not think Charlene is above trying to maneuver or extort a position at least in in her own silly head? This surprises you? It's not like a few other women didn't attempt it? Charlene has had the benefit to see how it worked out for them, but since Albert has given her a high profile for a long while, and he has already been through it a few times, she would be in a much better place than her predecessors? Charlene just thought she wouldn't have to resort to it, but Charlene had a lot of confidence in herself and her abilities, she didn't count on it being so hard to pull off. I'm sure there are a few posters here that would agree with me ? I really can't believe that people here do not see through these silly transparent posts of her's and all the manipulation, where she even tries to enlist people here to do her bidding? At times it looks like she is even successful?Sometime Jaya I have wondered if she has you on her hook? And yes Jaya I have lived in Europe where a Royal Family is still very much in place. Not Canada or Greece of course?

As far as Charlene having very much regard for her own experience as an Olympian for her country? Showing up at the Olympics in another countries official delegates uniform tells me she doesn't? In Turin as a previous Olympic Athlete, in attendance with another Olympic Athlete and current IOC member, when asked about how she was enjoying the Olympics in Turin, she replied it was a great place for lovers! . I think she was more interested in letting the world know that she was the lover of Prince Albert than actually being interested in the sports there? The pictures taken then seem to echo that? That hasn 't changed, Jaya take a look at her face book page and see the story she is trying to tell there and where she devotes most of her attention. There are so many things one could say here? It doesn't matter because I think she realizes she's milked her "2000" 5th place relay win as much as could already, and biting the hand that fed her in interviews during that time probably didn't help her case any either, even if she was genuinely interested in her sport, but her actions speak for themselves. I think it is no secret to anyone where her interest has always been, which is really too bad since it is the one thing that she has actually done herself that she should be proud of?

Jaya, her mind is pretty easy to read but also having the benefit of her posts on so many forums and her quips in the press, she pretty much takes any guess work out of what she is all about? I just hope Albert association with her doesn't come back to haunt him too much, for his sake and for Monaco's.
How does Greece or any nation figure in this would U like to give these details pertaining by innuendo by you across the public airwaves of the net so my lawyers can look at this U? These are the public airwaves and u are insinuating that Charlene Wittsock has me on the HOOK? U just hate the girl...... she is there..................... bashing her up is a way of life .... Where do U get that I have lived in Greece[this is personal info if true] and how does it relate to CW?.Misogyny is word U should learn to spell..... because the level of bashing Cw is coming to that.U are as insolent as U portray Cw as U think she has me on the hook and that I have an affinity with her[that will change Monaco's future- other than Facebook that will really have the impact... just the pics alone will get her the title of Princess- will someone grab a brain?-] that will offend if U say she has me on the hook? What hook?Cw enlists people to do her bidding - now I have heard everything...... she has spies everywhere - Am I in Vaudeville with that hook? You have yourself on the hook because she is there and will be. I am not at the wedding Cw is .... good for her...This is Too funny to be true transparent Cw attending the wedding of the Crown Princess Victoria and U are still in denial about her really being Pa's companion;escort and possible wife.I have laffed so hard I am crying... Greece and all give it up- tell the world what U pls I do not care at all..It helped Cw and no doubt assist me too!!
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Old 05-13-2010, 10:23 PM
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So let me get this straight Charlene is invited and the Queen of England is not? Not to mention, Maddie's Ex is on that list too--- isn't that cozy. I guess this is why I seldom post here. Kool-aid anyone.
I'm sure they know Queen Elizabeth wouldn't attend even if she was invited, its usually one of the family who they did invite that attends to represent her. I recall seeing photos of Prince Charles sitting with Princess Victoria and Prince Albert at some of the weddings of the Heirs to the Throne like Victoria.
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The Queen herself would never attend "royal" weddings, on principle.
And at her age, she is very choosy about where she travels.
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I'm sure they know Queen Elizabeth wouldn't attend even if she was invited, its usually one of the family who they did invite that attends to represent her. I recall seeing photos of Prince Charles sitting with Princess Victoria and Prince Albert at some of the weddings of the Heirs to the Throne like Victoria.
They had the whole British royal family on the list but the Queen and Prince Philip. I highly doubt they will ALL attend. Usually only one "representative" from the royal house attends. I was actually thinking it would be Harry or William since they represent the younger generation. The list also doesn't explain by Jonas is on it. The break up came before the list was released. There are a lot of names on there that seem over the top to include. I would not be surprised to see Charlene there, it just seems so inappropriate and out of line in terms of protocol. I have never heard of a royal mistress being invited to such things.
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I can tel U are from England because U know your Princes will not turn up then U say Charlene[denigrating her in a way] along with all nut cases should come from far and wide to even see or attend this very right wing event... go to the wedding.... hard core royals are very right wing individuals and Europe is such a mess .. Greece Portugal and Spain.. wow!! Just a girl from South Africa with a dream hobnobbing with the houses of Gotha. I am excited for her.
What tiara is Charlene going to wear to the wedding itself have U made calculated guess?
Anyone who reads the Princes William and Harry thread will know that they won't turn up.
You can tell i'm from england, from my location.
I never "denigrated her" thank you very much.
I was replying to a comment hibou made
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In addition by not listing the names invited, helps limit the security risks since the public will not know who will be there until that day. (translation: it keeps the nut cases at a limited number, not to mention groupies)
it had nothing whatsoever to do with Charlene, it had to do with the fact that even though an event list will not be published until the 19th, people will still fly from around the world to see this event. What the hell has the state of affairs in Greece got anything to do with the Swedish royal household?
Charlene has been invited to the wedding of a memver of the house of Bernadotte. I don't think her dream would be specifically to "hobnob" with royals of other countries, but you'll probably pick up on this assumption aswell.
IF Charlene wears a tiara, which i doubt she will, she will probably where one of Carolines.

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So let me get this straight Charlene is invited and the Queen of England is not? Not to mention, Maddie's Ex is on that list too--- isn't that cozy. I guess this is why I seldom post here. Kool-aid anyone.
The Queen of England hasn't attend any royal wedding i don't think ever, outside her own family.

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They had the whole British royal family on the list but the Queen and Prince Philip. I highly doubt they will ALL attend. Usually only one "representative" from the royal house attends. I was actually thinking it would be Harry or William since they represent the younger generation. The list also doesn't explain by Jonas is on it. The break up came before the list was released. There are a lot of names on there that seem over the top to include. I would not be surprised to see Charlene there, it just seems so inappropriate and out of line in terms of protocol. I have never heard of a royal mistress being invited to such things.
Incorrect. 6 members of the BRF are on the list.
Charles, Camilla, Edward, Sophie, William and Harry. William and Harry will not attend. It is most likely that Charles, Camilla, Edward and Sophie will.
As i have said before, this list was created before the split, and probably not thought of to change. Also it is still a possibility that Jonas will attend the wedding, as he is very good friends with Daniel. Which names seem over the top to include may I ask?
Charlene isn't a royal mistress, and if your referring to Camilla by any chance, she is married to the Prince Of Wales, she isn't his mistress.
Harry and William have never met Victoria, I doubt they will attend any major events away from home until their father is King.
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LOL You have listed the whole immediate British royal family except Andrew. The Queen in her earlier years did indeed attend royal weddings. I agree with her advanced age she is turning those duties over to Charles. We have gone over the mistress thing many times. Charlene has NO INCOME OF HER OWN. She is a kept women which means she is a mistress. A companion has a job and income of their own..What job does Charlene hold besides being at Albert's beck and call? She's a mistress -- at one time that was a prestigious position to have.
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LOL You have listed the whole immediate British royal family except Andrew. The Queen in her earlier years did indeed attend royal weddings. I agree with her advanced age she is turning those duties over to Charles. We have gone over the mistress thing many times. Charlene has NO INCOME OF HER OWN. She is a kept women which means she is a mistress. A companion has a job and income of their own..What job does Charlene hold besides being at Albert's beck and call? She's a mistress -- at one time that was a prestigious position to have.
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A mistress is a term that is usually used when she is sleeping with a man who is married. As far as I know Albert isn't married.
Yes she is a Kept Woman. I don't think she is at his Beck and Call thats an awful saying, makes her sound like a dog. She maybe a mistress in your opinion but not in mine. Makes her sound awful that term.
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what I mean by dragging Greece Portugal and Spain into this is that the Euro is about or may collapse and Sweden is staging a very right wing affair where millions in tax payer's monies will be paid out for a wedding : I am asking where is the balance there? the social conscience?
As for Cw I do not care in what capacity she attends as she is going to anyway. Maybe it would be inappropriate for the Queen attending PV's wedding to have Charlene bow to her as yet?

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LOL You have listed the whole immediate British royal family except Andrew. The Queen in her earlier years did indeed attend royal weddings. I agree with her advanced age she is turning those duties over to Charles. We have gone over the mistress thing many times. Charlene has NO INCOME OF HER OWN. She is a kept women which means she is a mistress. A companion has a job and income of their own..What job does Charlene hold besides being at Albert's beck and call? She's a mistress -- at one time that was a prestigious position to have.
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The Queen attended weddings in England like Margaret's and Diana's and Camilla's - now there's the rub {Hamlet] if she can go to that last one she certainly can attend this one.The last Queen on earth will be the British one and the one in the playing deck......Hibou how about changing in mistress for "courtesan" "escort" as in the Courtesan of Lucknow-? - we know she has no income etc.. but she is there and continues to be there...and gaining ground. so we will have to put in steel dentures if we do not approve of Albert's friend and escort
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The Queen attended weddings in England like Margaret's and Diana's and Camilla's - now there's the rub {Hamlet] if she can go to that last one she certainly can attend this one.The last Queen on earth will be the British one and the one in the playing deck......Hibou how about changing in mistress for "courtesan"
Not really, just because she attended her sons second marriage, why should she attend Victorias?
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We've had the discussion about the definition of the word
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why are we talking about who is on the list and who isnt...we are suppose to be talking thei relationship
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At a royal wedding or any other wedding, the limelight has to be on the happy couple, and only them.

Could I suggest a moratorium on the speculation about whether CW and/or PA turn up at the wedding or not?

There is a lot of - often very thoughtful, even profound - discussion, and I enjoy most of it.

Many of us, I'm sure, love meeting on the Monaco Forum and engaging in interesting debate, but just occasionally we seem to get carried away on a particular thread, and things become a bit stressful.

Let's keep things light and have fun discussing our friends, the Grimaldis.
Renata , The first hundred years are difficult and then U pull up a coffin and become accustomed.We wait we watch we see.. and finally we will debate. Until then Peace especially to us and then Charlene and Pa.
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I don't see a problem with Charlene attending Victoria's wedding. I think it would be nice to see her there with Albert. But I do hope she doesn't wear something to revealing.
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If I were a Monagasque I would be really hacked if PA got married and had kids at this late date. Monaco relies on glamour and the Casiraghis are perfect for the job. I think it was decided before Prince Rainier died that Andrea would be the next prince. He has gone through all of the training just like Albert did. That is why he is interning at the Qatar embassy now. PA recently said his relationship with Charlene would not necessarily be a conventional one. Andrea said he would fullfill his duties. I think if PA decides to get married he will abdicate to PC or Andrea.
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If I were a Monagasque I would be really hacked if PA got married and had kids at this late date. Monaco relies on glamour and the Casiraghis are perfect for the job. I think it was decided before Prince Rainier died that Andrea would be the next prince. He has gone through all of the training just like Albert did. That is why he is interning at the Qatar embassy now. PA recently said his relationship with Charlene would not necessarily be a conventional one. Andrea said he would fullfill his duties. I think if PA decides to get married he will abdicate to PC or Andrea.
We really don't what kind of agreement they made before the death of Prince Ranier.We don't see the far future.It is sure that PA will die without legitime offspring then Princess Caroline will inherit the throne and the title .( if she is alive at the time of PA death)Andrea is third in the succession line. I think you should not be afraid that Charlene beacome princess of Monaco. PA had a lot of time to decided to settle down with CW so far nothing serious happened. They will enjoy each others company and both of them are getting older
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