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09-26-2009, 05:18 PM
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The sons were actually going to be raised protestant not catholic so I don't think that was the idea.
I think a Jewish girl would be accepted fine as would any variety of Christian girl. I think that a Muslim girl would only encounter resistance because Muslim women are not permitted to marry outside of their faith and none of the Lux princes would ever convert...they are very devout.
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09-26-2009, 09:48 PM
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I don't think Find a Grave is a reputable source. I have never read anything other than that the sons were to be their father's faith and daughters catholic.
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09-26-2009, 10:40 PM
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As they live in Luxembourg where most people are catholic, they'll probably end up married to catholics anyway.
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09-27-2009, 12:12 AM
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As they live in Luxembourg where most people are catholic, they'll probably end up married to catholics anyway.
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Félix hasn't lived in Luxembourg for several years now, but he does consistently reside in Catholic areas. I think that Guillaume is still living in France. But, I do agree with you. I think they are all too catholic to marry a women who isn't catholic or willing to convert. Although, I can't imagine that it would be an issue if she weren't.
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09-27-2009, 05:47 AM
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I think the only one who could incounter some issues with a marriage to a non-Catholic would be Guillaume due to his position. I do not think the others would be as likely to incounter problems if they chose to wed a non- Catholic.
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10-24-2009, 01:48 AM
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I think the girl has to convert to Catholic to marry one of the Princes or Princess.
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10-24-2009, 03:34 AM
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If I'm not mistaken Maxima of Netherlands is still Catholic but their children is raised Protestants. Maybe Luxembourg will allow the same
However in Guillaume's case I get the impression that he has a stronger belief than his siblings so then it might be more important for him that his wife share his belives.
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10-24-2009, 04:20 AM
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Regardless of who they marry, I think a marriage between a passionate Roman Catholic and a charismatic protestant (aka "convicted Christian" or "born again Christian") who speaks in tongues, wants you to be "saved" their way and seriously has different beliefs about how and when to baptise your children, could be tense.
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10-24-2009, 05:10 AM
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Yes it won't be easy but who said married life is
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10-24-2009, 05:25 AM
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If I'm not mistaken Maxima of Netherlands is still Catholic but their children is raised Protestants. Maybe Luxembourg will allow the same
However in Guillaume's case I get the impression that he has a stronger belief than his siblings so then it might be more important for him that his wife share his belives.
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You are correct, Maxima is still Catholic and her children are raised in their father's faith.
I wouldn't necessarily say Guillaume is more Catholic than his siblings (they all seem pretty genuine), but he is certainly very Catholic. You don't cry during the Te Deum if you aren't devoted and you certainly don't study theology or join Catholic fraternities (not the US Greek type of frat) if you are not serious about your Catholicism. While I doubt it would ever be an issue for any of the de Lux kids to marry a non Catholic I sincerely doubt Guillaume would chose a women who didn't share his faith.
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10-24-2009, 05:33 AM
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You are correct, Maxima is still Catholic and her children are raised in their father's faith.
I wouldn't necessarily say Guillaume is more Catholic than his siblings (they all seem pretty genuine), but he is certainly very Catholic. You don't cry during the Te Deum if you aren't devoted and you certainly don't study theology or join Catholic fraternities (not the US Greek type of frat) if you are not serious about your Catholicism. While I doubt it would ever be an issue for any of the de Lux kids to marry a non Catholic I sincerely doubt Guillaume would chose a women who didn't share his faith.
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Guillaume has said he wants a modern independent woman so I could think Guillaume would chose a woman who had another faith but that she has to understand the importance of their children being brought up as Catholic or convert to Catholicism herself since it is the main religion in Luxembourg
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10-24-2009, 05:43 AM
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Guillaume has said he wants a modern independent woman so I could think Guillaume would chose a woman who had another faith but that she has to understand the importance of their children being brought up as Catholic or convert to Catholicism herself since it is the main religion in Luxembourg
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A modern independent women who would convert just because it was the faith of her husband? That's not very independent.
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10-24-2009, 05:49 AM
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It is if she makes the decision ;P But I don't think Guillaume would say no to a woman he loves just because she's not Catholic.
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10-24-2009, 06:01 AM
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It is if she makes the decision ;P But I don't think Guillaume would say no to a woman he loves just because she's not Catholic.
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Oh sure, I think that Guillaume is himself an independent man who will marry the women of his own choice. That is not in dispute! We will have to agree to disagree on the matter of whether Guillaume would actually allow himself to become so involved with a women who is not Catholic at this juncture of his life.
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10-24-2009, 06:19 AM
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Oh sure, I think that Guillaume is himself an independent man who will marry the women of his own choice. That is not in dispute! We will have to agree to disagree on the matter of whether Guillaume would actually allow himself to become so involved with a women who is not Catholic at this juncture of his life.
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I do see your point since Guillaume do have a strong belief so we don't totally disagree. Faith is a complicated matter and I would think it's a matter the Lux royals deal with. They seems quite modern but faith is obviously important for them so how they would think about a non-Catholic marrying any of the princes or the princess will be interesting to see
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Even if a woman choses to convert it isn't plain sailing. There are emotions (fear is one) involved with going against your upbringing and deciding to be different to your loved ones who may judge you for the decision to convert. There is a long catholic program to go through for starters. I know because a few months ago I had a major spiritual crisis and to cut a long story short I inquired with catholics about converting from protestant to catholic. I was told that I have to be 'sponsored' by a Catholic and then wait for a special program to start. The program goes for about one year and at the end of it you're catholic. ...Right now this is my little secret because it's pretty daunting (and tbh I'm not looking forward to the first confession bit).
Converting is more complicated than one would think and that's even when someone wants to do it.
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It is if she makes the decision ;P But I don't think Guillaume would say no to a woman he loves just because she's not Catholic.
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Yes,I agree with you! The woman must accept catholic religion if she really loves him.Remmember what Mary does to marry a Frederick.
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10-24-2009, 06:46 AM
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I do see your point since Guillaume do have a strong belief so we don't totally disagree. Faith is a complicated matter and I would think it's a matter the Lux royals deal with. They seems quite modern but faith is obviously important for them so how they would think about a non-Catholic marrying any of the princes or the princess will be interesting to see
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While I don't think that any of them would choose a non Catholic partner I think that Henri and Maria-Teresa would deal with it with perfect class, as usual.
Maria-Teresa is already on record saying that she will always support the choice of her children with respect for their partners because she remembers how it was for her. I don't think Henri would deny consent for any of their marriages because of how he had to fight for his own love. The people of Luxembourg identify as Catholic but are largely non practicing on a day-to-day basis. I doubt anyone would appreciate Paris Hilton or a Rock of Love girl, but I get the feeling that Luxembourgers genuinely want happiness for their royals.
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10-24-2009, 06:58 AM
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Even if a woman choses to convert it isn't plain sailing. There are emotions (fear is one) involved with going against your upbringing and deciding to be different to your loved ones who may judge you for the decision to convert. There is a long catholic program to go through for starters. I know because a few months ago I had a major spiritual crisis and to cut a long story short I inquired with catholics about converting from protestant to catholic. I was told that I have to be 'sponsored' by a Catholic and then wait for a special program to start. The program goes for about one year and at the end of it you're catholic. ...Right now this is my little secret because it's pretty daunting (and tbh I'm not looking forward to the first confession bit).
Converting is more complicated than one would think and that's even when someone wants to do it. 
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I'm actually a Catholic convert myself. It's not so daunting of a process, but it is time consuming if you are unbaptised or non Christian. However, those baptized persons who have lived as Christians need only instruction in the Catholic tradition and a degree of probation within the Catholic community and are not asked to undergo a full program parallel to the catechumenate. The process shouldn't be so long for you if you are already protestant. If you are serious (and previously Christian) it's just a matter of weeks or months not a year. Your local Parish should provide you with a sponsor it's not something you need to seek out on your own (though you can).
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