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View Poll Results: In your opinion, which European country is more likely to become a republic?
Belgium 81 20.30%
Denmark 12 3.01%
Great Britain 39 9.77%
Liechtenstein 12 3.01%
Luxembourg 9 2.26%
Monaco 16 4.01%
The Netherlands 4 1.00%
Norway 55 13.78%
Spain 140 35.09%
Sweden 31 7.77%
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Old 07-15-2013, 01:14 PM
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Hardly. The current royal family in the UK owe their throne to their descent from the Stuarts so many many many Stuart descendents have been born in the UK since the Glorious Revolution
The claim that Joseph Wenzel is the first Stuart born in the UK since the Glorious Revolution is based on the idea that he is of the Jacobite, as opposed to the Hanover/Windsor, line.

The many other Stuarts born in the UK, including the BRF, don't count.
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I understood the claim,I was just pointing out that it was a false claim.
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I know the Hanovers are of Stewart descent and there are many other nobles and commoners of Stuart descent, but IF the Scots wanted a line which was pre-Hanover, they could look to others than the lines since the Protestant settlement. But I don't think they want a king. I trace my own lineage back to the wife of the first High King of Scotland, who had children by her first husband, including my ancestor Isabel de Croc de Polloc. That's not Stuart per se but I have the foremother of the Scots House of Stuart in my lineup. My discoveries about those families, neighbors who went into making up the original Stuart line in Scotland, has been a great surprise and adventure I had in the last couple of months.
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Thanks to Tony Abbott, we can now remove Australia from the list of countries likely to abolish their monarchy.
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Thanks to Tony Abbott, we can now remove Australia from the list of countries likely to abolish their monarchy.
Why exactly? A PM can't vote for his entire country if a referendum is held.
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Old 09-08-2013, 12:55 PM
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Why exactly? A PM can't vote for his entire country if a referendum is held.
Because there would now be no referendum. Unlike Julia Gillard, he is a firm monarchist, and with the head of government against any changes, it's even more of an uphill battle for anti-monarchists.
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Does Scotland want another King or to become a republic?
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Old 10-01-2013, 09:59 PM
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I somehow doubt the majority of Scotland wants to install a new monarch, although there are certainly those who do.

The way I see things in Scotland is if they change the system they'll dissolve the union with England and either abolish the monarchy entirely and become a republic, or maintain the monarchy and become a Commonwealth Realm. Somehow, I suspect the republic is the more likely scenario.
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Because there would now be no referendum. Unlike Julia Gillard, he is a firm monarchist, and with the head of government against any changes, it's even more of an uphill battle for anti-monarchists.

The last referendum in 1999 was held in the Prime Ministership of one of the best known monarchists in the country - John Howard. Abbott is a Howard disciple.

The next referendum is on hold basically until The Queen dies - simply because both sides of the debate know that she is personally very popular.

The ALP do have becoming a republic as part of its stated program while the LNP has a more broad base with many known republicans in the coalition parties.

If the people call for a republic we will get one but only when the republicans can agree on the model and there is a solid support base for it.

I expect us to become a republic within a couple of years of the following combination of events: The Queen passing AND an ALP government/OR a Liberal leader who is a republican such as Mr Turnbull.
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Old 10-04-2013, 09:10 PM
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My vote going for Liechtenstein...
Especially, I don't think royal family of Great Britain is republic easily.
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My vote going for Liechtenstein...
Especially, I don't think royal family of Great Britain is republic easily.
I don't think so. A few years ago, 76% of the voters allowed the Prince to keep his veto power. The Prince of Liechtenstein is quiet powerful, and his people seems to like it.

Also, those powers are exercised by the Prince's son, who is the Regent.
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I think the position in Spain is quite precarious. The Crown Prince couple remain popular, but the economic situation does not help the position. The economic recovery appears to be underway now, so I suspect the situation wrt to royals may improve.
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I don't think so. A few years ago, 76% of the voters allowed the Prince to keep his veto power. The Prince of Liechtenstein is quiet powerful, and his people seems to like it.

Also, those powers are exercised by the Prince's son, who is the Regent.
Exactly. The citizens of Lichtenstein have an "if it isn't broke don't fix it" attitude about their monarch and their country. There will be no Republic any time soon.
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I think the position in Spain is quite precarious. The Crown Prince couple remain popular, but the economic situation does not help the position. The economic recovery appears to be underway now, so I suspect the situation wrt to royals may improve.
With Catalonia's independence, the Republican cause will be greatly diminished. Something to consider.

I still vote for Spain out of the polled countries.
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Spain... their done for- Period
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If Spain will be on the patht to become a republic, what will be the procedure of monarchy abolition?

I mean, this will be decided only by Parliament or Spaniards will also be able to choose.
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If Spain will be on the patht to become a republic, what will be the procedure of monarchy abolition?

I mean, this will be decided only by Parliament or Spaniards will also be able to choose.
probably a referendum, the same way Italy dismissed the monarchy after WW2.
But then there should be a constitutional reformation with a temporary president and after the reform is complete the election of a new President.

People say that there's no chance for the monarchy to survive in Spain, if Juan Carlos abdicates in favor of his son. Instead there might be a chance of survival if the succession comes after the death of the sovereign. From my point of view as an outsider, I hope Spaniards will give Felipe a chance to prove himself a good Head of State. He seems a decent man, and he kept himself out of any scandal ... unlike his parents and sisters (until now, at least)
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Isn't Australia planning to jump ship when the Queen dies?
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If Spain will be on the patht tteo become a republic, what will be the procedure of monarchy abolition?

I mean, this will be decided only by Parliament or Spaniards will also be able to choose.
We are a parliamentary democracy with a royal head of state. The only way to change our Constitution is through a national referendum.
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From what I read, over here in America, Scotland is a republican-minded nation. Which is somewhat too bad, as they have many descendants of the Stuart family there as well as descendants of the Dal Raida (Irish incursion) and other lines. which could make for an interesting brouhaha as to who should be the monarch. Scotland is made up of various ethnic groups, just like America. Many battles fought over which one should rule, so only if there was a really popular monarchial candidate among a widespread number of the people, could this work. A descendant of the Stuart family might be able to attain popularity, especially if that person comes from a medieval line. Princess Alice came from an ancient family when she married Prince Henry of Gloucester. Princess Marina made fun of her because she was a "little Scottish girl". Education might be in order into the complex history of Scotland.
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