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Old 04-06-2019, 09:54 PM
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Are there Royals of Noble lines?

Good day everyone. I was just curious to know if there has been any individual or a group of people who've had, for starters, been of nobility and somehow was able to climb up the latter into Royalty? I'm really interested for personal project mine and well, for future reference.

I really appreciate your time and Apologizes if this is the wrong place!
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Old 04-06-2019, 09:59 PM
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The first nobility that comes to mind is Polish magnates.
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Some magnates were also elected as kings of the Commonwealth; namely Michał Korybut Wiśniowiecki and Stanisław August Poniatowski (a relative of the Czartoryski family)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnat..._and_Lithuania

The Romanovs, the boyars of the Grand Duchy of Moscow, were elected by the Zemskoy Sobor to rule Russia.
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Old 04-06-2019, 11:34 PM
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In reality royals started out as nobles/land lords and eventually elevated to the title of kings/royals. In France, in the days of the 'king of Franks' the dynasties started with election of a noble house. The Robertians for instance were the Counts of worm before they took the throne. Charles Martel's family were 'mayors of the palace', power behind the throne, who eventually took power. But if we are talking already established kingdoms:

-William the conqueror-William wasn't royalty, he was the Duke of Normandy. He was a bastard son of Robert the Magnificent, Duke of Normandy. He came to the throne due to his relationship with Queen Emma. Emma was the sister of William's grandfather Richard II (both children of Richard the fearless). Emma was wife of 2 kings of England, mother of 2 and stepmother of 2. When her son Edward was childless, he named the son of his maternal cousin, heir. The Dukes of Normandy were powerful rulers, but nobility, not kings.

-his opponent was also a noble not royal born king. Harold was an Earl of Wessex (not same as kingdom of Wessex). His grandfather was a thegn (an old noble title). His father was raised to Earl. Harold was chosen due to the fact his sister Edith was the widow of King Edward.
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