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Old 06-13-2015, 09:25 AM
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Yeah, I know. Is she selling bridges, too? Oh, wait, I think they were.
I think she wanted to save that little of facade she had... I also think she honestly didn't believe her brother would have done this and when she was informed about it she tried to pretend it was all her will...my take anyway
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Old 06-14-2015, 06:41 PM
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i applaud what felipe has done removing cristina's title. it's a bit late to have done it, but better late than never.
what an undignified behaviour, on the part of cristina, to tell her lawyer to tell the press that "it was her who refused the title to not dishonour the institution that is the royal family" - which the household had to deny! all very unroyal, but in this case... their behaviour has been utterly unroyal in any case, so she's just keeping with her tradition :)
i remember a time when she or her lawyer said she was not going to give up her rights "as that would have been an acknowledgement that she has done something wrong", when everyone just knew about her involvement in a corruption case...
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Old 06-15-2015, 05:09 AM
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Carlota, in her letter she did not even acknowledge having hurt the Crown, or says she renounces the title for it .... she says she renounces the title for the city of Palma, after praising that she, her husband and kids love the city. She says her family loves the city of Palma, but she forgets that has lived a life of luxury at the expense of the money from their public coffers.

In addition, she blames her legal situation to a group that has been presented as an accusation ... but she did not acknowledge having done anything wrong.

The letter is very cynical ... she wants to give up what she knows will be removed ... but does not give up that which depends on her own will.
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Old 06-15-2015, 07:10 AM
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Infanta Cristina's Coat of Arms has also been changed

As Duchess of Palma de Mallorca 1997-2015




HRH Infanta Cristina of Spain 2015-




The three-point label azure with a Palm from the Coat of arms of Palma de Mallorca has been removed.
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Most newspapers are publishing polls on the monarchy but I've only seen ABC's poll asking about this (the King taking away Cristina's ducal title). According to this poll 83% think it's a positive or very positive action.
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Most newspapers are publishing polls on the monarchy but I've only seen ABC's poll asking about this (the King taking away Cristina's ducal title). According to this poll 83% think it's a positive or very positive action.
Huge percentage. The Spanish citizens have spoken and they approve. They are the only ones that really matter in this instance.
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Old 06-19-2015, 10:11 AM
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It's very logical that.That proove that decision to the King is the wise moove he did. Even justice say innocent for Cristina the things they can't be the same for her. The glass has broken.
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Old 06-22-2015, 07:21 AM
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Máxima der Niederlande: Sie gibt Infantin Cristina Rückendeckung! | BUNTE.de
bunte writes that Maxima had lunch with Cristina to show public support.
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Why should Maxima butt into this? Bunte writes like she backs Cristina. Hmm..
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Old 06-22-2015, 11:26 AM
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I understand that Maxima is a personal friend of the Spanish infantas, but, quite frankly, as queen consort of the Netherlands, she should stay out of this. I'm surprised that King Willem-Alexander or the Dutch government itself didn't advise her to avoid meeting Cristina in public.
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Old 06-22-2015, 11:45 AM
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I agree about that. She can support her private with all ways . Public no.
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Old 06-22-2015, 11:56 AM
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There have been no photo or confirmation, Bunte is becoming another tabloid.
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Old 06-22-2015, 11:58 AM
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If Maxima and Cristina are personal friends, she should stand by her friend. That is what friends do even in scandal and even if they don't approve. We don't know what was said and we don't know if king W-A disapproved. It just might be that the Dutch Royals will offer help of some kind to Cristina and children while husband in jail. I believe that Felipe and Willem-Alexander a good friends. Maybe the two men have had many conversations on this subject and W-A offered help at Felipe's request. We don't know and probably never will. Whatever the reason, I am sure that the Dutch Royals have talked this meeting over very thoroughly.
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There have been no photo or confirmation, Bunte is becoming another tabloid.
Indeed. There is nothing that indicated that Queen Maxima was in Madrid this weekend. Is it even known if Cristina was there, since she lives in Geneva?

I think that Maxima was friendly with the infanta before the scandal. I am not sure how 'deep' these royal friendships really are though. They seem for a large part rather cosmetic. If she did visit her in private (here or at another point) I would say that is the appropriate thing to do. To drop a friend the moment things get rough isn't really friendship, is it?

The article tries to paint Maxima as a sort of savior of those in need and refers to CPss Masako who attended part of the Dutch state visit. I think it is mainly a phantasy made up by the author of the article, with the goal to sell a gossip magazine.
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Old 06-22-2015, 12:46 PM
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Don't believe anything what Bunte writes. To me they lost all credibility when they tried to buy a "witness" for a false account in a court case (I won't go into details here, as it has nothing to do with Royalty).

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Old 06-22-2015, 01:34 PM
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The last time Queen Maxima was in Madrid officially was at the Memorial Mass in honour of the late Prince Kardam ,Infanta Cristina was also there,I'm sure if they had lunch/coffee we'd have seen photographic evidence.
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I understand that Maxima is a personal friend of the Spanish infantas, but, quite frankly, as queen consort of the Netherlands, she should stay out of this. I'm surprised that King Willem-Alexander or the Dutch government itself didn't advise her to avoid meeting Cristina in public.
With no official confirmation or a photograph, one cannot speculate as to what the King or the Dutch government might, or indeed might not, think. If the story is true, then Queen Maxima had lunch with a friend, that is all.
Having said that, in all these years I have never heard of Maxima flying of to the other side of Europe for a lunch.
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Old 06-22-2015, 02:42 PM
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Indeed. There is nothing that indicated that Queen Maxima was in Madrid this weekend. Is it even known if Cristina was there, since she lives in Geneva?

I think that Maxima was friendly with the infanta before the scandal. I am not sure how 'deep' these royal friendships really are though. They seem for a large part rather cosmetic. If she did visit her in private (here or at another point) I would say that is the appropriate thing to do. To drop a friend the moment things get rough isn't really friendship, is it?

The article tries to paint Maxima as a sort of savior in need and refers to CPss Masako who attended part of the Dutch state visit. I think it is mainly a phantasy made up by the author of the article, with the goal to sell a gossip magazine.
The comparison of Cristina with Masako is ridiculous
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