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It is the [2-week] May vacation for schools, many people are away now. Of all the vacations, these trips to Argentina to her mother are of course perfectly understandable.
According to BUNTE article of last September the youngest son, Juan, is living in ViennaThat must be the intinarry. It was said that Mrs. Zorreguieta often goes to Greece with them after King's Day - though this year Greece was skipped in favour of Patagonia.
I am surprised to see her at the palace. One wonders if she will discreetly join the concert tonight too. In all these years I believe we only have seen her once at Noordeinde looking on to Prinsjesdag.
It is lovely the way Máxima is taking care of her mother btw. She is getting on in age, a widow and with a daughter in the Netherlands, a son in Vila La Angostura and AFAIK the other son is still living in Europe too [he showed up at the state banquet in Slovakia in 2023, so he may be living there?]. It may be rather quiet in Buenos Aires for Mrs. Zorreguieta.
Why should it be a matter for us? What she does in her time is entirely her prerogative, IMO.How many private trips abroad has she taken since the beginning of the year? It seems she's a bit bored in the Netherlands.
When royals take excessive vacations or travel frequently outside their countries for leisure, it has always been discussed in this forum, and also in the press in their countries when it is a bit critical (the Danish suffered such criticism at the beginning of the year). In less than a month, Máxima has been on vacation in Greece, Argentina, and now Spain. In recent months, her leisure trips abroad seem to be frequent, so it's normal for this to raise questions.Why should it be a matter for us? What she does in her time is entirely her prerogative, IMO.
They do like this event - I am just back from Seville myself and it reminded me how the couple met at the Feria. Didn't they do a family trip to it a few years agoMáxima is continuing her vacation and party at the Sevilla April Fair.
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La Reina Máxima de Holanda regresa a la Feria de Sevilla, donde conoció al Rey Guillermo
Ha sido agasajada por el alcalde, José Luis Sanz, que refleja «el idilio que mantiene con Sevilla»www.abc.es
How many private trips abroad has she taken since the beginning of the year? It seems she's a bit bored in the Netherlands.
I guess the question is what is excessive? Some of us do 4-5 trips a year. But this is a very personal matter on how one chooses to spend their down time. Being a member of the RF does not, IMO, mean that one is bound to that country only.When royals take excessive vacations or travel frequently outside their countries for leisure, it has always been discussed in this forum, and also in the press in their countries when it is a bit critical (the Danish suffered such criticism at the beginning of the year). In less than a month, Máxima has been on vacation in Greece, Argentina, and now Spain. In recent months, her leisure trips abroad seem to be frequent, so it's normal for this to raise questions.
That makes sense, as he lived there at the time of his wedding & he married there. i believe he is now divorced. Vienna and Bratislava are only one hour away by car.
I guess the question is what is excessive? Some of us do 4-5 trips a year. But this is a very personal matter on how one chooses to spend their down time. Being a member of the RF does not, IMO, mean that one is bound to that country only.
her schedule when she is in the netherlands is quite packed so i highly doubt she is bored. she is at the stage in life when her daughters are old enough and they have more freedom to travel, along with, let's be honest, quite a lot more disposable income and privileges when it comes to travelling than the average person, so why not? she is hard working in her role as queen, and she is allowed some down time to go see family and friends.Máxima is continuing her vacation and party at the Sevilla April Fair.
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La Reina Máxima de Holanda regresa a la Feria de Sevilla, donde conoció al Rey Guillermo
Ha sido agasajada por el alcalde, José Luis Sanz, que refleja «el idilio que mantiene con Sevilla»www.abc.es
How many private trips abroad has she taken since the beginning of the year? It seems she's a bit bored in the Netherlands.
i didn't know this either, how sad.Wow..I didn't know he was divorced. It seems the Queen's siblings have all been unlucky with love.
this is interesting. i've never heard anyone in the same situation whose second language, when fully immersed and working and living in the acquired language culture, gets worse with time - it typically just improves or stays the same. i don't speak dutch so i cannot judge but this seems strange. if this type of error wasn't more than once i think it is just the odd one out as opposed to saying categorically her dutch got worse.Again, her Dutch clearly deteriorated a lot - even the subtitles correct her; for example 'goede cijfers krijgen' as spoken by Máxima is subtitled as 'goede cijfers halen' (the latter being the correct expression in Dutch - as the first suggests that you just 'receive' good grades vs the second suggesting that you have to work for them).
It's a general pattern that has been discussed on TRF before as well. Of course, people can make mistakes, especially in their second (or third or fourth) language; so a one time issue would not necessarily be problematic (even native speakers might make mistakes once in a while) - however, this was the most obvious one in this case but her pronunciation was sloppy as well. While Máxima at first made a very great effort to speak correctly, it seems that same effort is no longer in place. Hence, the observation by several people over time that her Dutch is getting worse instead of better. I guess, she still regularly uses three languages and it seems Dutch is not the primary one but rather English with Spanish as a close second?!this is interesting. i've never heard anyone in the same situation whose second language, when fully immersed and working and living in the acquired language culture, gets worse with time - it typically just improves or stays the same. i don't speak dutch so i cannot judge but this seems strange. if this type of error wasn't more than once i think it is just the odd one out as opposed to saying categorically her dutch got worse.
Interesting. Thanks for the context. This is interesting to hear as someone who doesn’t speak Dutch. I guess then that maybe these days quite a bit of her meetings happen in English perhaps as she is heavily involved with the UN and travels abroad often for that? Maybe they speak English at home? Or even Spanish between herself and the girls?It's a general pattern that has been discussed on TRF before as well. Of course, people can make mistakes, especially in their second (or third or fourth) language; so a one time issue would not necessarily be problematic (even native speakers might make mistakes once in a while) - however, this was the most obvious one in this case but her pronunciation was sloppy as well. While Máxima at first made a very great effort to speak correctly, it seems that same effort is no longer in place. Hence, the observation by several people over time that her Dutch is getting worse instead of better. I guess, she still regularly uses three languages and it seems Dutch is not the primary one but rather English with Spanish as a close second?!
See below for some Dutch language articles and tv items that discuss this same issue:
Queen Máxima is being subtitled, her Dutch is getting worse (17 Feb 2025)
Problems for Máxima: detoriating fast (28 July 2024)
BLVD subtitles queen Máxima 'Dutch is getting worse and worse' (21 June 2024) --> providing examples of many incomplete sentences and Máxima wondering whether she is going to 'hit' (slaan) her husband instead of 'beat' (verslaan) him in a competition.
Item in Dutch royalty program about Máxima's linguistic abilities(25 May 2025) --> a linguist states that she is now able to pronounce 'ui' (which she previously couldn't) but makes lots of mistakes in for example articles and sentence order that she didn't make in the past.
To ensure their daughters grew up bilingual, Máxima spoke Spanish with them from the start, while Willem-Alexander would speak Dutch to them. The princesses speak Dutch among themselves, so I guess that is also the 'family language' for example if they share a meal together. I am not sure what language Willem-Alexander and Máxima speak between just the two of them.Interesting. Thanks for the context. This is interesting to hear as someone who doesn’t speak Dutch. I guess then that maybe these days quite a bit of her meetings happen in English perhaps as she is heavily involved with the UN and travels abroad often for that? Maybe they speak English at home? Or even Spanish between herself and the girls?
It is? I had no idea. I would have thought that since she became queen her Dutch would naturally improve even more, simply from added exposure .Raising her daughters bilingual would have presented a problem for Maxima herself, whose Dutch is obviously detoriating. If she only spoke Spanish to her daughters, her adopted language would have suffered greatly.
In those circles for bilinguality its best to hire staff like nannies who will take care of this.
It is. 81% of the respondants at the mediacourant think it is time for Maxima to do something about her language skills and start an intensive course with the nuns in Vught.It is? I had no idea. I would have thought that since she became queen her Dutch would naturally improve even more, simply from added exposure .