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Welcome to the thread Wales Residences 2, Kensington Palace, Adelaide Cottage & Anmer Hall, Part 2

Commencing September 1st, 2022

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Charles spent a significant amount of time at Birkhall over the last 20 years. Would the new Wales family have as much use for a holiday home on the Balmoral estate?
 
Charles spent a significant amount of time at Birkhall over the last 20 years. Would the new Wales family have as much use for a holiday home on the Balmoral estate?

It has long been suggested that they have the use of a cottage on the Birkhall etstae called Tam-na-Ghar, provided to William by the Queen Mother when he was studying at St Andrews. We do not know if:

> that was indeed the case
> that he still uses it
> that the Wales family exclusively use it, or do other members of te family use it from time to time
> that the Wales family only use that property whist at Balmoral and do not stay at Birkhall, the Castle or any other property.
 
Anmer Hall is a Georgian country house in the village of Anmer in Norfolk, England. Built in the 19th century, it was acquired by the Sandringham Estate sometime after Queen Victoria purchased the property, and has previously been leased to business owners, civil servants, and members of the British royal family. It is currently the country residence of the Prince and Princess of Wales, given to the couple as a wedding gift by Elizabeth II.
More information: Anmer Hall - Wikipedia
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Adelaide Cottage (formerly known as Adelaide Lodge) is a house in Windsor Home Park just east of Windsor Castle, in Berkshire. Built in 1831 for Queen Adelaide, it is currently the principal residence of the Prince and Princess of Wales.
More information: Adelaide Cottage - Wikipedia
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There was a question raised in the cancer thread about the location of the card game in the Wales' new video. It's absolutely Anmer and, based on the window muntins and the window/door placement, it's specifically the garden room that they added to Anmer in the spring of 2014 (this was discussed in this thread and a link to the daily mail article with pictures can be found on page 18 in the Duke of Marmalade's post)
 
I live in N. CA and the money it took to fix Adelaide Cottage would build me a mansion.
 
That isn't the inside of their house. And it wasn't refurbished for them. They probably bought their own stuff for it but it didn't need renovation.
 
I understand that the Wales did ask for some painting work, but that was all prior to moving into the property in 2022.
If the property had not seen much renovation work since the 1950's then I can understand why it would require it to bring it up to modern building codes.
 
I understand that the Wales did ask for some painting work, but that was all prior to moving into the property in 2022.
If the property had not seen much renovation work since the 1950's then I can understand why it would require it to bring it up to modern building codes.
I doubt it's the 50's. Apparently it was renovated, in line with general maintenece a couple of years before they moved in. I find it hard to beleive they wouldn't at least put in their own kitchen. But apparently not.

The look to renovate a third property would not be good.
 
I doubt it's the 50's. Apparently it was renovated, in line with general maintenece a couple of years before they moved in. I find it hard to beleive they wouldn't at least put in their own kitchen. But apparently not.

The look to renovate a third property would not be good.
I am sure when it was announced they were moving in the message was that it had all been updated previously and it would only be some minor cosmetic work (decoration) .
 
I am sure when it was announced they were moving in the message was that it had all been updated previously and it would only be some minor cosmetic work (decoration) .
There was never an announcement that the Cambridge family were moving to Adelaide Cottage. The only announcement related to the children joining Lambrook School. However, it was widely reported that the property had been updated a few years prior to the Cambridge family moving in, and few changes were required.
 
There was never an announcement that the Cambridge family were moving to Adelaide Cottage. The only announcement related to the children joining Lambrook School. However, it was widely reported that the property had been updated a few years prior to the Cambridge family moving in, and few changes were required.


In the clip above it is said that there was a major renovation in 2015. And then the son of Margaret Rhodes lived there until 2018.
 
There was never an announcement that the Cambridge family were moving to Adelaide Cottage. The only announcement related to the children joining Lambrook School. However, it was widely reported that the property had been updated a few years prior to the Cambridge family moving in, and few changes were required.
I stand corrected.
 
The following is an extract from The Times in one of their articles after the news was made public.

Their new property does not require extra taxpayer-funded security or a refurbishment having had alterations in 2015. Kensington Palace will remain the family’s London home and they are expected to visit Anmer Hall, their family retreat in Norfolk, frequently.

One of the factors in the decision is to live closer to the Queen in order to spend more time with her. A source told the paper: “Kate and William were very keen for a modest home to start their new lives in Windsor. Adelaide Cottage fits the bill because it is a four-bedroom home and they do not need any more as they have no live-in staff. They were adamant they didn’t want anything too showy or anything that needed renovating or extra security so as not to be a burden on the taxpayer.

Similar was widely reported in other media.
 
Surely it's time the Wales family took on a fourth residence? Charles (as PoW) and the Queen Mother had considerably more properties than the William and Kate currently do. A new home in Scotland or Wales would probably be appreciated by people in those nations.
 
Surely it's time the Wales family took on a fourth residence? Charles (as PoW) and the Queen Mother had considerably more properties than the William and Kate currently do. A new home in Scotland or Wales would probably be appreciated by people in those nations.
I think they have quite enough. William made it clear there will be no house in Wales and Charles' is now rented. They have plenty of homes. Ironically the one they spend most of their time in at the moment is the smallest. And as the kids get bigger and just want to see their friends they will be in Norfolk less.
 
Surely it's time the Wales family took on a fourth residence? Charles (as PoW) and the Queen Mother had considerably more properties than the William and Kate currently do. A new home in Scotland or Wales would probably be appreciated by people in those nations.
Posh royals buying new home would please people?Yeah no.

They do have a cottage on Balmoral.
 
There is a lot of uncertainty given Kate's condition, moves are so difficult as is especially with the children.
 
I don’t think there is any need, nor that there has ever been a set time for heirs to the throne to have X number of residences.
For the Wales, at the moment, another residence makes no sense as its clear that while the children are at Lambrook and not at boarding school William and Catherine want to be based around school. Of they decide to send the children to boarding school they may decide when Louis is old enough to go to take on another home (unlikely IMO) but until then there is no point as term time they're tied to Windsor Mon-Fri and have a weekend home (Anmer).
They have a cottage at Balmoral it is said so they have homes on both private royal estates.
Charles may have a lot of homes now but Birkhall has only been his since after the Queen Mother died in 2002.
The Wales home was actually owned by the Duchy of Cornwall and all but a tiny part rented out as holiday lets. William and Catherine have said they want to be able to travel to different parts of Wales and stay in local b&bs etc rather than a fixed residence somewhere. Again it wasn’t acquired until 2007 so when William and Harry were growing up and were about the same ages as The Wales’ children Charles only had a residence in York House at St James Palace and Highgrove. It was enough then and W&C actually have an extra one (two if you include the Balmoral cottage) than that now.
 
They had Kens and Highgrove. Highgrove is now owned by William.charles pays him rent. He moved to St Jim's post separation.

William and Kate actually have many homes. I don't think they have a cottage at Balmoral. They have the use of one but it isn't theirs.
 
Surely it's time the Wales family took on a fourth residence? Charles (as PoW) and the Queen Mother had considerably more properties than the William and Kate currently do. A new home in Scotland or Wales would probably be appreciated by people in those nations.
Personally, I cannot see W&K take on any more homes. I am sure proper accommodation is made available to them when they are on the Balmoral estate. William has also made clear he is not keen to take on a Welsh property, preferring to stay in hotels in various parts of Wales as he travels around.
 
When William and Kate become king and queen, which property will they reside in? Maybe they'll move to Buckingham Palace?
Do they still regularly use your apartment in Kensinghton Palace at the moment?
 
They may stay in Windsor and continue Kensington as their offices.

I think it may very much depend on how old the children are and where they will attend secondary. Louis has six more years of prep left. I think if left up to them they would live in Norfolk. They may once the kids are gone stay there most weekends. If the kids are weekly boarders at the time they may spend the week in London but I would guess at Kens.

I don't think Buckingham Palace will be lived in again permanently.
 
Let’s do a comparison of timelines:
C&D: marriage - KP and Highgrove. At Windsor they were hosted in the main building, same at Sandringham and at Balmoral.
Divorce - she stayed in KP, he moved to St James. He kept Highgrove (which is, in fact, the property of the Duchy of Cornwall). Sometime (2007), the Duchy bought the House(s) in Wales that they occasionally use.

W&C: marriage - Anglesley, then Nott Cottage, then KP, then Adelaide Cottage. Offices stay at KP, which they use when they need to spend the night in London. (See their Coronation clip.) Gifted the use of Amner Hall at Sandringham (both because at the time he was working in Berkshire and because the family has become too large for the main house). At Balmoral the rumour is that they have the use of Tan-I-don’t-know-the-rest.

We’ll see that, but for the fact that they retain the offices at KP and use it occasionally, W&C are comparable to C and his wife.

The main difference, in my opinion, is that C has always been the PoW, on one hand, and on the other hand the family was smaller at the time.
 
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When William and Kate become king and queen, which property will they reside in? Maybe they'll move to Buckingham Palace?
Do they still regularly use your apartment in Kensinghton Palace at the moment?
Either one of the London locations - BP, KP or CH; or Windsor - I would say Windsor Castle.
 
Long term I can see Clarence House being used rather like it is now - the private home of the monarch whilst BP remains the "office" and the centre of state occasions. In an ideal world KP is a bit too far out IMO for the sovereign to commute to and from daily/several times a day as Charles does now from CH to BP. If Camilla isn't around when William becomes King I could see them taking it on otherwise, I guess they'd stay at KP. I can't see them moving in to Buckingham Palace full time, they are too family orientated and use to Anmer and Adelaide where they have few and no live in staff respectively to go from that to living in the busy busy Palace that is BP.
I think / hope they'll use Windsor much like the late Queen, as their main weekend home to which the children can still come to as can Catherine's family for weekends spent together. I imagine Adelaide is great with a family of small children but once they start getting to all be teenagers it will start to feel quite small.
 
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