The Future of the British Monarchy 2: Sep 2022 -


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Charlotte and Louis are currently third and fourth in line respectively. They will most likely be bumped up to second and third when their father becomes King and will retain those positions until George has children of his own, which might still take 20 years from now. Even if George had two kids, Charlotte for example would still be 4th in line when William is King. So, if 7th in line is your cutoff point for deciding who should be a full-time working royal or not, then Charlotte at least has to be raised to take on royal duties.

I am personally against the situation that happened for example in Spain where Infanta Elena was a working royal for a large part of her adult life while her father was the King and was then removed from any official royal duty when her brother ascended the throne. I don't think that is fair because a person in that situation couldn't really have an alternate private career when he or she was younger and then had to find a career when he or she was already middle-aged. Accordingly, I wouldn't like that to happen to Charlotte or Louis. They should either be half in, half out, or totally out from the beginning, or, if they are in, stay in for the rest of their lives, even when they get lower in the line of succession (like Princess Anne for example).
It is a balancing act, I agree with you regarding being side lined later on in favour of others when there could have been a career path.
The fact that the York sisters never officially took part in Royal duties does make you wonder if this was already Charles's influence on the future of the monarchy with the LQ.

There is a gap starting to appear between the generations, who will fill this gap until the Wales children are of age, but what if they wish an alternative career, possibly the military, not a problem in itself but reduces the manpower for royal duties.

IMO , going forward ,William will continue his fathers work of reducing the patronages and the working royals.
 
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Charlotte and Louis are currently third and fourth in line respectively. They will most likely be bumped up to second and third when their father becomes King and will retain those positions until George has children of his own, which might still take 20 years from now. Even if George had two kids, Charlotte for example would still be 4th in line when William is King. So, if 7th in line is your cutoff point for deciding who should be a full-time working royal or not, then Charlotte at least has to be raised to take on royal duties.

I am personally against the situation that happened for example in Spain where Infanta Elena was a working royal for a large part of her adult life while her father was the King and was then removed from any official royal duty when her brother ascended the throne. I don't think that is fair because a person in that situation couldn't really have an alternate private career when he or she was younger and then had to find a career when he or she was already middle-aged. Accordingly, I wouldn't like that to happen to Charlotte or Louis. They should either be half in, half out, or totally out from the beginning, or, if they are in, stay in for the rest of their lives, even when they get lower in the line of succession (like Princess Anne for example).
I agree with the not cutting off half way in life. However, I dont think it should be about the exact place in line but more about whether they are children of the (future) monarch or not. If they want to keep more than the direct line as working royalsm the logical thing to do is to keep the children of any monarch involved but not their grandchildren (unless these children either need to be removed or decide to temove themselves). So, yes to Charlotte and Louis and no to Louise and James (except for the occassional/few times a year larger family duty).
 
[Charles’] 'working royals' idea of only a few is working wonders for young people who have no one in their generation i.e. those in their teens, twenties or thirties undertaking royal duties with only 2 under 50 and only 4 under 70 the royal family is fast aging itself out of relevance.

I’ll assume you define a generation as an approximately twenty-year birth cohort (“no one in their generation i.e. those in their teens, twenties or thirties”).

How would you propose to ensure that every 20-year generation has a working royal of that generation?

Should a “minor royal” like the Earl of Snowdon or Lady Louise Mountbatten-Windsor be given royal work (and taxpayer funding) because their age happens to fall within the age gap between Charles and William (Snowdon) or the age gap between William and George (Louise)?

Should George be pressured to get married and have his first child by the time he is 20, so that there won’t be a “generation gap” between himself and his heir?
 
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In 10-15 years or so from now, we must expect that King Charles is no longer around, has abdicated or is too frail to be a full time working royal. (It's a question of what the average person that age is able to do.) That's likely also to be the case with Queen Camilla and Princess Anne. Edward and Sophie will be well into their 70s.
So that leaves pretty few active BRF members. W&K will likely be the reigning couple and the most busy members. Their three children will have reached the age where they can be working royals, when their education allows and it's unlikely they will have married yet. So two middle-aged, three in their twenties and a senior couple in their mid to late 70s, for a total of 7 working royals. - In fact it's 2 full time royals and 5 more or less part time royals.
IMO that's not too many!
Now considering the ground they need to cover and the number of events the British public expects them to cover, at least as it is today, I have two questions:
A) Will seven working royals be enough to cover all the obligations the BRF have or is expected to cover?
B) If the BRF needs reinforcements, who should be recruited, even if it's only as part-time royals? Because such a person/s needs to be recruited, presented and trained about now.
 
I’ll assume you define a generation as an approximately twenty-year birth cohort (“no one in their generation i.e. those in their teens, twenties or thirties”).

How would you propose to ensure that every 20-year generation has a working royal of that generation?

Should a “minor royal” like the Earl of Snowdon or Lady Louise Mountbatten-Windsor be given royal work (and taxpayer funding) because their age happens to fall within the age gap between Charles and William (Snowdon) or the age gap between William and George (Louise)?

Should George be pressured to get married and have his first child by the time he is 20, so that there won’t be a “generation gap” between himself and his heir?
There is no way that George will be pressurised to marry by a father who refused to be pressured into his own marriage or how much time he spends with his family.
 
In 10-15 years or so from now, we must expect that King Charles is no longer around, has abdicated or is too frail to be a full time working royal. (It's a question of what the average person that age is able to do.) That's likely also to be the case with Queen Camilla and Princess Anne. Edward and Sophie will be well into their 70s.
So that leaves pretty few active BRF members. W&K will likely be the reigning couple and the most busy members. Their three children will have reached the age where they can be working royals, when their education allows and it's unlikely they will have married yet. So two middle-aged, three in their twenties and a senior couple in their mid to late 70s, for a total of 7 working royals. - In fact it's 2 full time royals and 5 more or less part time royals.
IMO that's not too many!
Now considering the ground they need to cover and the number of events the British public expects them to cover, at least as it is today, I have two questions:
A) Will seven working royals be enough to cover all the obligations the BRF have or is expected to cover?
B) If the BRF needs reinforcements, who should be recruited, even if it's only as part-time royals? Because such a person/s needs to be recruited, presented and trained about now.
I guess they’ll look to other countries for how they cope in similar situations. Denmark has gone from Daisy, Henrik, Fred, Mary, Joachim, Marie, Benedikte to Fred, Mary, part time Daisy and Benedikte. I guess the BRF will just have to do as others have had to do, do less and prioritise the most important things.
 
Will Charlotte and Louis be working royals? I was under the impression (or maybe I misunderstood) that they would be leading their own lives. I think with William looking to just focus on several initiatives that are important to him many working royals will not be necessary. I think the idea of part time royals would be a great alternative but IMO that is not something they are interested in.
 
I’ll assume you define a generation as an approximately twenty-year birth cohort (“no one in their generation i.e. those in their teens, twenties or thirties”).

How would you propose to ensure that every 20-year generation has a working royal of that generation?

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Continuing on this discussion about having working royal for each generation for relevance, from what i can observe on instagram majority of royal fan pages (most of it are Wales fanpages) are by people in their 20s instead of 40s (W&C's generation). While I think it mainly because gen Z are more active on social media than millennial, but it also shows than BRF (the Waleses in particular) still have some relevance in those age bracket without the need of being one.

As for the issue of few working royals vs number of engagements with the argument of "needs to be seen to be believed" mantra. Maybe we also need to consider that the world is changing, what's worked during the late Queen's reign might not work for William's reign. I'm not saying the traditional engagement of ribbon cutting are no longer necessary, but from the latest YouGov poll, Edward and Sophie are less famous (less known) than William and Catherine despite having twice number of engagements. So does doing engagements in three places in three parts of the country in one day still necessary to be "seen" or balancing traditional face-to-face and social media post would be enough/more effective for the future reign?
 
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Will Charlotte and Louis be working royals? I was under the impression (or maybe I misunderstood) that they would be leading their own lives. I think with William looking to just focus on several initiatives that are important to him many working royals will not be necessary. I think the idea of part time royals would be a great alternative but IMO that is not something they are interested in.
I don't think anyone really knows at this stage. I think that the idea of being part time working royals would work well from a royal viewpoint, and to some extent Beatrice, Eugenie and Zara are doing this unofficially. For example, Eugenie's going to mentor a group of young artistic people working with the King's Foundation, which makes a lot of sense because she's the artistic member of the family. However, it's also going to depend on what else they're doing, and whether any other job they might have will fit in with it.
 
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