The Duke and Duchess of Sussex and Family, News and Events 10: August 2024 -

[Ghost]

I agree with you Hallo girl on a lot of points you made. I also agree that he is furious or disappointed that William settled and not sure if this had been a secret settlement where as the others such as Hugh Grant and Sienna Miller settled their suits publicly due to the cost. Without knowing what happens in his therapy sessions I think seeing what happened to his mother and the continuing “illegal” means of gathering info by the media on the famous and not famous is a real sore spot for him and it is not about the $ but the harm it has done without any repercussions.

There was nothing secret about William settling. It was not public, which doesn’t mean it was kept secret. There was no trial so why would anyone be privy? As nobody knows the amount H Grant or S Miller got - this doesn’t mean secret, it only means not public. Not everything needs to be put out in public, as Harry seems to start understanding.

 

[Mirabel]

This is exactly what it looks like to me. He seems obsessed with proving his planting and leaking claim. And no one cares really. The media have been neutered since these days. We all all know they are better. However, we all know the media can be cruel. Especially when you play with them, thinking you can control the narrative. If you are in a Faustian pact with them - as the royal family is as they need them to promote their work. That relationship is not going to be a saintly moral one.

Well-said. Nobody ever really wins taking on the press; the best anyone can do is some sort of reciprocal arrangement, such as many of the RF have been able to maintain.

 

[Maryrose]

There was nothing secret about William settling. It was not public, which doesn’t mean it was kept secret. There was no trial so why would anyone be privy? As nobody knows the amount H Grant or S Miller got - this doesn’t mean secret, it only means not public. Not everything needs to be put out in public, as Harry seems to start understanding.

If it wasn’t made public like the others such as Hugh Grant and Sienna Miller then not sure how anyone would know that he had settled. Doesn’t really matter that there was no trial his lawyers settled with the media. Not everyone has that ability.

I know many posters feel that this is about getting positive coverage for Harry IMO it is more about the gathering of private information through back channels. Its about the lack of trust and wondering how they got that information. Was it a friend or family member etc,? I don't think things have changed as much as it could be.

 

[FigTree]

Well they don't tap phones anymore and there are very few tabloid photos anymore.fanous people, media wise never had it so good.

Now social media. That's another story. You can't sue that though.

If he gets hold of these emails anyway it won't be this mega realise that they were league with the media. There will be nothing there anyway. If only because due to subject access requests most people are referred to by their initials now and don't show up on an access request.

 

[Hallo girl]

I agree with you Hallo girl on a lot of points you made. I also agree that he is furious or disappointed that William settled and not sure if this had been a secret settlement where as the others such as Hugh Grant and Sienna Miller settled their suits publicly due to the cost. Without knowing what happens in his therapy sessions I think seeing what happened to his mother and the continuing “illegal” means of gathering info by the media on the famous and not famous is a real sore spot for him and it is not about the $ but the harm it has done without any repercussions.

If it wasn’t made public like the others such as Hugh Grant and Sienna Miller then not sure how anyone would know that he had settled. Doesn’t really matter that there was no trial his lawyers settled with the media. Not everyone has that ability.

The amount has never been made public. Settling out of court does not mean a secret underhand deal, it just means the media paid him money and everybody moved on and got on with their lives. Surely it is cheaper all round to settle than instruct lawyers. I do not understand your final sentence.

 

[Maryrose]

My last sentence Not everyone has that ability is that if you are I wanted to sue a paper let’s say I would think it would more than likely be a court date and not a settlement before it got anywhere near court. IMO Prince William is in a position of power and has many friends in high places that he has more leverage than you or I.

 

[tihkon2]

My last sentence Not everyone has that ability is that if you are I wanted to sue a paper let’s say I would think it would more than likely be a court date and not a settlement before it got anywhere near court. IMO Prince William is in a position of power and has many friends in high places that he has more leverage than you or I.

So? Good for him.

 

[Maryrose]

So? Good for him.

Yes. If that is how he wanted it to go. Everyone has to do what works best for them and what they are willing to live with.

 

[Ghost]

Yes. If that is how he wanted it to go. Everyone has to do what works best for them and what they are willing to live with.

Do you mind if I ask what makes it bad or doubtful for you? I mean, I take it as maturity: the press as the exponent of various opinions will never be silenced and it shouldn’t be silenced. The dirty and ilegal methods had been already exposed and regulated. What had William to “live with”?

 

[Hallo girl]

Yes. If that is how he wanted it to go. Everyone has to do what works best for them and what they are willing to live with.

IMO it demonstrates he wanted them to acknowledge wrongdoing but he wanted to get on with his life. Are you saying Hugh Grant has to be willing to live with his decision.

 

[Maryrose]

IMO it demonstrates he wanted them to acknowledge wrongdoing but he wanted to get on with his life. Are you saying Hugh Grant has to be willing to live with his decision.

I agree that William wanted to move on and he had every right to do what he did. I think the issue with some others is that the financial burden was too much. In the case of Hugh Grant and Sienna Miller they went as far as they could and IMO they would have gone forward if not for the amount of money they would have to continue laying out. Who knows about Harry and the other person still in the suit. Not only do you have to have a strong stomach but also very deep pockets.

 

[Hallo girl]

I agree that William wanted to move on and he had every right to do what he did. I think the issue with some others is that the financial burden was too much. In the case of Hugh Grant and Sienna Miller they went as far as they could and IMO they would have gone forward if not for the amount of money they would have to continue laying out. Who knows about Harry and the other person still in the suit. Not only do you have to have a strong stomach but also very deep pockets.

Witchfinder Watson

Witchfinder Watson

Is the other person

 

[Maryrose]

Well they don't tap phones anymore and there are very few tabloid photos anymore.fanous people, media wise never had it so good.

Now social media. That's another story. You can't sue that though.

If he gets hold of these emails anyway it won't be this mega realise that they were league with the media. There will be nothing there anyway. If only because due to subject access requests most people are referred to by their initials now and don't show up on an access request.

Do you mind if I ask what makes it bad or doubtful for you? I mean, I take it as maturity: the press as the exponent of various opinions will never be silenced and it shouldn’t be silenced. The dirty and ilegal methods had been already exposed and regulated. What had William to “live with”?

Sorry I hadn't seen your post. What I mean by to "live with" is you have to be OK with your decision. Just because so and so is doing something doesn't mean you have to too. Some people settle and that's fine and some people go to court. You do what is best for yourself and loved ones.

 

[Toledo]

I wonder why Meghan is always invading somebody's personal space while being photographed with other people? She's clutching to them or embracing in weird day. Does she fear to be cut from the photo?

There's a tool in Photoshop to remove people attached to a subject, I guess that's why Meghan grabs on to them like an octopus to a crab.

I don't know if it's my impression but as I look at every picture, everyone has this almost cartoonish forced grin into a smile that we come to associate with Meghan when she sees a camera pointing her way. I guess is contagious. It feels fake when you are at a party and people react, out of no context or reference, with giant open mouth smiles and laughs with no sound, like this emoji would fit right in that gathering. Exaggerated camera smiles.

But that's the celebrity life she loves to be the center of, at least on that room.

 

[stunking]

I forgot to mention this in my post what absurd behavior for a Duchess almost childlike.

 

[Healthy Sceptic]

I forgot to mention this in my post what absurd behavior for a Duchess almost childlike.

They're both very immature. They say that sometimes your personality gets stuck at the time a huge trauma happens. So Harry has an excuse in a way, but Meghan has had no major traumas that I know of, so what's her excuse?

 

[Toledo]

They're both very immature. They say that sometimes your personality gets stuck at the time a huge trauma happens. So Harry has an excuse in a way, but Meghan has had no major traumas that I know of, so what's her excuse?

You got a good point there and I'll take it a step further.

Harry has a childhood trauma he never recovered from, he lost his mother in a horrific traffic accident caused by a car chase, a careless driver and not using seatbelts. All at an early age where he was not mature enough to comprehend people close to you can die but old enough to read and see all mentions on her passing as well as his parent's private lives being exposed. And. to make it worst for Harry, with a family that avoids showing strong emotions of grief in private and in public. That year marked his life, rebelliousness and poor decisions later on.

Meghan also has a life of trauma. She was spoiled by her father, which happens on persons that become parents again at an advanced age when they already had grown children. Being spoiled turned into ambitions like wanting to be the center of attention and becoming a big star. Years went by and her most successful career move was being part of an ensemble actors TV show most people in the USA have never heard of.

Her trauma? she achieved this at what sexist and ageist Hollywood considers to be late in the game age. She found another path to reinvent herself by finding Harry come to her rescue from a TV show heading for cancelation.

But, like Harry, there's trauma still. For me, as an observer, that trauma seems rooted on being unable to achieve her goals to become a A-List star on her own. I suspect that still resonates in her head. You take Harry out of that equation and today Meghan would be a footnote mention in one of those Entertainment TV "where are they now?" filler articles.

That's how I would explain her current minus-Harry moves around the party scene, she wants to be what her father made her believe, the most special person on the planet. Problem is she converted a parent's love into an everyone-has-to-love-me personality and it's just not going as expected.

Like on her TV show, she went from one ensemble cast team on Cable TV as a supporting actress to another ensemble cast upon marriage, the Royal Family, as a supporting royal. And as @Healthy Sceptic pointed out sometimes your personality gets stuck at the time a huge trauma happens but in the duchess' case the trigger was her expectations exceeded the reality around her.

 

[Healthy Sceptic]

You got a good point there and I'll take it a step further.

Harry has a childhood trauma he never recovered from, he lost his mother in a horrific traffic accident caused by a car chase, a careless driver and not using seatbelts. All at an early age where he was not mature enough to comprehend people close to you can die but old enough to read and see all mentions on her passing as well as his parent's private lives being exposed. And. to make it worst for Harry, with a family that avoids showing strong emotions of grief in private and in public. That year marked his life, rebelliousness and poor decisions later on.

Meghan also has a life of trauma. She was spoiled by her father, which happens on persons that become parents again at an advanced age when they already had grown children. Being spoiled turned into ambitions like wanting to be the center of attention and becoming a big star. Years went by and her most successful career move was being part of an ensemble actors TV show most people in the USA have never heard of.

Her trauma? she achieved this at what sexist and ageist Hollywood considers to be late in the game age. She found another path to reinvent herself by finding Harry come to her rescue from a TV show heading for cancelation.

But, like Harry, there's trauma still. For me, as an observer, that trauma seems rooted on being unable to achieve her goals to become a A-List star on her own. I suspect that still resonates in her head. You take Harry out of that equation and today Meghan would be a footnote mention in one of those Entertainment TV "where are they now?" filler articles.

That's how I would explain her current minus-Harry moves around the party scene, she wants to be what her father made her believe, the most special person on the planet. Problem is she converted a parent's love into an everyone-has-to-love-me personality and it's just not going as expected.

Like on her TV show, she went from one ensemble cast team on Cable TV as a supporting actress to another ensemble cast upon marriage, the Royal Family, as a supporting royal. And as @Healthy Sceptic pointed out sometimes your personality gets stuck at the time a huge trauma happens but in the duchess' case the trigger was her expectations exceeded the reality around her.

Hmm, interesting points re Meghan. I agree both her parents spoiled her and told her she was extra special when she really wasn't/isn't. They gave her a superiority complex that I don't think she'll ever overcome, especially now that she has enabler Harry. I guess you can call that trauma, it's certainly setting your child up for disaster in a world ready to knock cocky people off their pedestals. Plus I'm sure her parent's divorce wasn't pleasant for her, and being mixed race has its own set of challenges.

Whatever the reasons, M&H should both work harder on themselves and their own problems, and less on pointing their fingers at, and preaching to, others. They seem to me to glide around on a cloud of self-centeredness that I find very unappealing.

 

[Toledo]

Hmm, interesting points re Meghan. I agree both her parents spoiled her and told her she was extra special when she really wasn't/isn't. They gave her a superiority complex that I don't think she'll ever overcome, especially now that she has enabler Harry. I guess you can call that trauma, it's certainly setting your child up for disaster in a world ready to knock cocky people off their pedestals. Plus I'm sure her parent's divorce wasn't pleasant for her, and being mixed race has its own set of challenges.

Whatever the reasons, M&H should both work harder on themselves and their own problems, and less on pointing their fingers at, and preaching to, others. They seem to me to glide around on a cloud of self-centeredness that I find very unappealing.

For any parent, the children will always be told you are special, one of a kind and all nice words. I think that's how Meghan and Harry work out so well, she is confident enough to compensate for Harry's lack of confidence, trust and insecurities.

They might go now to parties without one another but in this era of communication Harry is just a text and a selfie or facetime away to report to Meg. I bet she sets the rules even if she is not in the same room as Harry.

 

[Lori138]

As a footnote, Harry appeared on Canadian TV this evening talking about our Grey Cup football game that was on tonight. Not sure what he had to say, my husband saw him as I was making dinner. Not sure what Harry would know about Canadian football, it is even different from American football!

 

[polyesco]

His appearance was tied to the Invictus Games which will take part on Canada 2025

Surprise! Prince Harry attends Grey Cup game in Vancouver (with photos)

Prince Harry, in Vancouver to promote the upcoming Invictus Games, was spotted at B.C. Place, waving to fans and doing an interview with TSN

vancouversun.com

https://twitter.com/x/status/1858293780756984038

Harry visiting a Vancouver School

Prince Harry attends Invictus Games event at Vancouver school

The Duke of Sussex , 40, visited Seaforth Armoury and met with elementary school children studying in Vancouver as he talked to them about his annual adaptive sports tournament.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Hallo girl]

Sorry I hadn't seen your post. What I mean by to "live with" is you have to be OK with your decision. Just because so and so is doing something doesn't mean you have to too. Some people settle and that's fine and some people go to court. You do what is best for yourself and loved ones.

As long as Harry views it that way, he has been openly critical of his brother for settling, has he been critical of Hugh Grant.

 

[Curryong]

Great to see Harry happy and beaming and jovial
at the Grey Cup game. I’m sure he and all the competitors are looking forward to the Winter Invictus Games coming up.

As for Harry being critical of Hugh Grant, I think that Harry believes (as do I) that any and all Press tabloids would be a great deal more accommodating to an heir to the throne and senior Courtiers in negotiations as far as payments for their alleged misbehaviour was concerned. While dealing with movie stars and celebrities they aren’t.

So that often means the news conglomerate’s lawyers fight over every tiny detail in court and the backers that pay them hope that the celeb will fold just as Hugh Grant has had to do. That is the difference between them.

 

[Hallo girl]

As for Harry being critical of Hugh Grant, I think that Harry believes (as do I) that any and all Press tabloids would be a great deal more accommodating to an heir to the throne and senior Courtiers in negotiations as far as payments for their alleged misbehaviour was concerned. While dealing with movie stars and celebrities they aren’t.

So that often means the news conglomerate’s lawyers fight over every tiny detail in court and the backers that pay them hope that the celeb will fold just as Hugh Grant has had to do. That is the difference between them.

We can agree to differ on this point but in my opinion Harry was wrong to criticise Williams actions. We do not know Williams reasons for settling and he was entitled to do what was right for him and his family, as no doubt Harry would argue is the reason why he is pursuing.

 

[Somebody]

His appearance was tied to the Invictus Games which will take part on Canada 2025

Surprise! Prince Harry attends Grey Cup game in Vancouver (with photos)

Prince Harry, in Vancouver to promote the upcoming Invictus Games, was spotted at B.C. Place, waving to fans and doing an interview with TSN

vancouversun.com

https://twitter.com/x/status/1858293780756984038

For about 2 months now, all over (downtown) Vancouver you can find big yellow/black 'I am' blocks to remind the people that Invictus is coming to town. So, this is another step in hyping up the city for the Games in February, I assume.

 

[Curryong]

It was marvellous to see photos of Harry at the Vancouver school surrounded by enthusiastic and happy schoolchildren. He is at his best in this sort of atmosphere and really connects with people when promoting the Invictus Games.

 

[Ghost]

Maybe I’m an idiot but I don’t see what Invictus has in common with the football match or, even worse, with the school children.
I get Harry’s desire for visibility but I find that by going all over the place he’s diluting the purpose of Invictus and transforming it into some sort of Sunday fair.

Also, again, maybe I’m narrow minded but I think children should be shielded a bit about what war does to people.

 

[iceflower]

Here are some more photos of the Duke of Sussex during the Invictus Games 2025 School Program Launch Event at Seaforth Armoury in Vancouver yesterday:


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[Somebody]

Now I at least understand where the I am is coming from. InvIctus gAMes.

 

[winifred]

video of Harry in a tattoo skit with Jelly Roll, again for Invictus.

Explains his sighting at the tattoo parlour, but not to my taste.