The Duke and Duchess of Sussex and Family, News and Events 10: August 2024 -

[Mbruno]

They never wanted to leave. They wanted the good: glitzy events, tours...basically it. Didn't want the: community trips, being open to criticism, have to walk behind others. They also wanted their own money, to control press and no accountility. Now they have glitzy events, tours, own money, and no accountability. You can't control the press and not social media. So on the surface they do have what they want. But they also have no credibility and no importance and will have to graft to keep that lifestyle with ever diminishing returns. George is a teenager next year. They have about a nano second left. Would have been the same in royal family but at least they would be taken care of.

Also, unfortunately, it now looks like Harry also doesn't want to work. So it's a lot on Meghan's shoulders. He just looks happy basically on his own visiting people in need. Which isn't a job if you aren't royal. So u fortunately Harrydoes t like being challenged, held to account or negative coverage...she doesn't either. So they aren't good traits for a person in the public eye.

I don't think that William's children becoming teenagers makes that much of a difference. Following his own precedent, I believe William will try to keep his children's lives as private as possible until they are adults and take up official royal duties.

An unpredictible factor would be, however, if William unexpectedly became King in a near future (for example while George is still a minor). Hopefully that will not be the case, but it is not impossible.

 

[FigTree]

I don't think that William's children becoming teenagers makes that much of a difference. Following his own precedent, I believe William will try to keep his children's lives as private as possible until they are adults and take up official royal duties.

An unpredictible factor would be, however, if William unexpectedly became King in a near future (for example while George is still a minor) as that would have a big impact on George (and his siblings). Hopefully that will not be the case, but it is not impossible.

I meant more from a media perspective. Without interest Harry and Meghan don't exist. Once those Wales kids are teenagers they won't be interesting anymore.

Also William and Harry's life became far more private after their mother’s deaths. Their childhoods were disgustingly overexposed. But Bea and Eug too used to be in Hello magazine with their parents giving interviews. Different times.

 

[fabaunty]

Perhaps they are concerned about being mobbed by the thousands of people queuing around the clock to catch a fleeting glimpse of them at the front door?

They might also need the extra space for their "ring of steel", and room for the paps to get a clear shot, but maybe my cynicism is showing ?

 

[Curryong]

Meghan Markle and Prince Harry Unveil N.Y.C. Memorial Honoring Lives Lost to Social Media: 'All Children Should Be Safe'

Meghan Markle and Prince Harry unveiled a powerful installation in New York City called the Lost Screen Memorial, honoring children whose lives were cut short due to the harms of social media.

people.com

The couple unveiled a city memorial to children lost to dreadful online bullying.

‘The Duke and Duchess brought attention to a somber reality during their visit to New York City.

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex, together with the Archewell Foundation — the philanthropic organization they co-founded — unveiled a powerful installation honoring children who lost their lives due to the harms of social media.


The Lost Screen Memorial is comprised of 50 smartphones, each displaying the lock screen photo of a child whose life was cut short, stemming from the harmful effects of social media. The personal images were shared by parents, who are members of the Archewell Foundation Parents’ Network, to call attention to the need for safer online spaces.’

 

[iceflower]

The Lost Screen Memorial inauguration:

The Lost Screen Memorial | The Office of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex

Yesterday, The Archewell Foundation unveiled the Lost Screen Memorial in New York City—a deeply moving art installation honoring the lives of children lost to online harm. As part of the Foundation’s No Child Lost to Social Media campaign, led through The Archewell Foundation Parents’ Network...

sussex.com

Unveiling the Lost Screen Memorial | The Archewell Foundation

Yesterday, The Archewell Foundation unveiled the Lost Screen Memorial in New York City—a deeply moving art installation honoring the lives of children lost to online harm. As part of the No Child Lost to Social Media campaign, led through The Archewell Foundation Parents’ Network, the memorial...

archewell.org

Meghan Markle moved to tears during surprise outing with Prince Harry

The Sussexes stepped out together in New York

www.hellomagazine.com

Harry and Meghan unveil poignant monument in New York

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle unveiled a memorial in New York City last night, which is dedicated to 'honouring the lives of children lost to online harm'.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[An Ard Ri]

From the BBC -The Duke and Duchess at the Lost Screen Memorial in NYC

Sky News
Prince Harry and Meghan call for action to protect children from harms of social media

 

[OwlBranch]

People on this board may recall in 2021 Piers Morgan stormed off TV show after his co-anchor Alex Beresford called out his terrible behaviour toward Meghan. Well, it seems Meghan just send Alex some gift for his new baby, which Alex acknowledge in an Instagram post!

Why Meghan Markle Sending Weatherman Alex Beresford A Gift For His Baby Is A Pretty Big Deal

Alex Beresford famously triggered Piers Morgan into storming off “Good Morning Britain” when he called out his personal vendetta against Meghan live on TV.

www.buzzfeed.com

 

[GondorHasNoPants]

I find it interesting that Meghan supports something like The Lost Screen Memorial, while openly associating with Chrissy Teigen - a woman who once sent a 16 year old girl messages telling her she hated her, and urging her to kill herself...

 

[hereditarytitles]

From the BBC -The Duke and Duchess at the Lost Screen Memorial in NYC

Sky News
Prince Harry and Meghan call for action to protect children from harms of social media

Despite all the criticism of H and M that I read here in the forum and I am trying to be fair and cannot agree to all opinions, although I am not a fan anymore of the couple, like I used to be.
I think this campaign to raise awareness of the terrible effects of social media on young people is a good thing. They are obviously the first to address this huge problem. I had no idea that this influence of hate, hate speech and abuse had such bad results on young people. At some point, governments will have to make laws to stop this. Parents and teachers alone will not be able to do this!

 

[Royalist.in.NC]

In all honesty I think Meghan is really thriving out of the royal family. Any interview I see she is glowing, happy talking about herself and her ventures. I truly believe this is the life she always wanted.
It was never going to suit her to follow two steps behind everyone else and attend charity events where she would need to sit and listen to other people share their stories. Members of the royal family use their “fame” to shine a light on the causes and charities that mean something to them, Meghan is happier being the one people are shining a light on.

It’s just a shame for Harry that it’s ended up with him losing out on relationships that were once close ones. He isn’t a part of the lives of his niece and nephews which I think is the greatest shame of all.

I agree with you - Meghan seems really happy. Harry, however, is still hanging on to old grievances (all the constant lawsuits ) and appears to still be the spare - only now to Meghan instead of William. Very sad…

 

[Royalist.in.NC]

Despite all the criticism of H and M that I read here in the forum and I am trying to be fair and cannot agree to all opinions, although I am not a fan anymore of the couple, like I used to be.
I think this campaign to raise awareness of the terrible effects of social media on young people is a good thing. They are obviously the first to address this huge problem. I had no idea that this influence of hate, hate speech and abuse had such bad results on young people. At some point, governments will have to make laws to stop this. Parents and teachers alone will not be able to do this!

Yes, this is a really good cause. When I was an elementary school counselor, I spent a lot of time on “mean girl” kinds of issues - awful texts, bullying FB posts, TicToc videos - primarily with 4th and especially 5th grade girls. And these were girls 9-11 years old. Middle school and high school are much worse.
And access to smart phones at this age is ridiculous. I also worked with boys (and with their parents) who were watching porn as early as 3rd grade - I kid you not.

 

[hereditarytitles]

Oh My, this is so horrible and frightening. I read those things in the newspapers almost every day. On top of that there are so many parents who just don't care or watch what their children are up to.
I am old fashioned, grew up in a world with not social media, so I remember the "old Times". It was not an ideal world, bullying by other children was always present and a problem. People, or/and children are like that, unfortunately. But I thought we had overcame, discussed these things within society and our children.
Looks like that social media has destroyed all of our endeavours and good intentions. It is a jungle, that nobody can control anymore.

 

[winifred]

LOL. You can't make sense out of nonsense. I just checked, and here are the current rankings:

Top Shows: #44
Top Episodes: Not in the top 200
Top Shows (Business Category): #2
Top Episodes (Business Category): #48 (this is for Episode 3, which came out on Tuesday)

I found this from Apple, which attempts to explain the rankings. This part is interesting and accounts for some of the disparity above, I think:
So it appears that CoaFF is #2 in business not because it's actually the second most listened-to business podcast, but as a way to bring people's attention to it and encourage them to listen.

I swear I no longer understand the English language! Many thanks.

 

[TLLK]

Yes, this is a really good cause. When I was an elementary school counselor, I spent a lot of time on “mean girl” kinds of issues - awful texts, bullying FB posts, TicToc videos - primarily with 4th and especially 5th grade girls. And these were girls 9-11 years old. Middle school and high school are much worse.
And access to smart phones at this age is ridiculous. I also worked with boys (and with their parents) who were watching porn as early as 3rd grade - I kid you not.

Oh I absolutely agree with you that in the 21st century, this is not uncommon.

 

[irish_royalist]

In all honesty I think Meghan is really thriving out of the royal family. Any interview I see she is glowing, happy talking about herself and her ventures. I truly believe this is the life she always wanted.
It was never going to suit her to follow two steps behind everyone else and attend charity events where she would need to sit and listen to other people share their stories. Members of the royal family use their “fame” to shine a light on the causes and charities that mean something to them, Meghan is happier being the one people are shining a light on.

It’s just a shame for Harry that it’s ended up with him losing out on relationships that were once close ones. He isn’t a part of the lives of his niece and nephews which I think is the greatest shame of all.

If not for her connection to the Royal Family and her marriage to the Duke of Sussex, NOBODY would want to listen to Meghan talking about how dried flowers on scrambled eggs give her so much joy...

 

[Leopoldine]

The double hand-grabbing/shoulder pulling/claw/elbowing/pawing/death-grip behavior is catching up to her. No other prominent married 40ish middle-aged couple in the world acts like this. When I think of power couples, Presidential couples, big time Hollywood couples, kids going to their proms, no one would get away with this ... this. Meghan's type of manipulation of another human.

 

[Toledo]

They never wanted to leave. They wanted the good: glitzy events, tours...basically it. Didn't want the: community trips, being open to criticism, have to walk behind others. They also wanted their own money, to control press and no accountility. Now they have glitzy events, tours, own money, and no accountability. You can't control the press and not social media. So on the surface they do have what they want. But they also have no credibility and no importance and will have to graft to keep that lifestyle with ever diminishing returns. George is a teenager next year. They have about a nano second left. Would have been the same in royal family but at least they would be taken care of.

Also, unfortunately, it now looks like Harry also doesn't want to work. So it's a lot on Meghan's shoulders. He just looks happy basically on his own visiting people in need. Which isn't a job if you aren't royal. So unfortunately Harry doesn't like being challenged, bring held to account or negative coverage...she doesn't either. So they aren't good traits for a person in the public eye.

[…]

Re Harry's charity - Now that he and the royals of Lesotho want no association with it, because Harry didn't get his way, it will end up being dismantled and resurface under another name and group. All these rich people use charities as their feel-good public relations storyline, but you never see the lives of the people they claim to help to make any progress, get out of poverty and starvation, cure diseases.

They are all the same, public relations and get the celebrities involved prizes and award feel-good ceremonies at polo events, but the target population remains in the same situation decade after decade.

Hope I'm not being too sarcastic, but in our TVs, we are bombarded by charity ads nonstop since I have memory and never seen a single progress done. It brings up the question if the Sussex' visit to Nigeria and Colombia last year changed any lives except the bank accounts of those involved with organizing the event? Celebrity focused charities to me are just more PR to the Boards and associates than quietly changing the lives of the people they use for photo opportunities.

 

[cdm]

Meghan had been Celeste Barbered
Celeste Barber on Instagram: "Unpalatable yet pretty. #celestechallengeaccepted @time @meghan"

 

[Duke of Marmalade]

At the moment, Meghan still needs Harry for the constant attention in order to build her own 'empire'. And who knows, she might raise above all issues and succeed in it. I personally doubt it, because I don't see any substance in her abilities at all and her business of choice is merciless.
But lets assume Meghan becomes the key player she thinks she is - this is the moment when she will dump Harry, who is no longer needed with his connections and issues attached to him. At some point it will be more lucrative to be the ex-wife rather than the wife. At the end of the day, Meghan is the strong one and Harry weak and lost.

 

[Toledo]

Meghan had been Celeste Barbered
Celeste Barber on Instagram: "Unpalatable yet pretty. #celestechallengeaccepted @time @meghan"

OMG, thanks for posting this video! It made me laugh as she's spitting out the horrible results on that recipe

 

[iceflower]

The Duke of Sussex attended the Living Legends of Aviation ceremony in Beverly Hills yesterday, April 25:

Prince Harry Honors 'Quiet Heroes' Who Fought California’s Devastating Wildfires at Beverly Hills Awards Ceremony

Prince Harry returned to the Living Legends of Aviation ceremony in Beverly Hills, hosted by John Travolta, after returning to California from his trip to New York City with Meghan Markle.

people.com

Prince Harry seen at swanky Beverly Hills event as Prince William fills in for King Charles

Prince Harry spotted at a Beverly Hills event.

www.hellomagazine.com

 

[Erin9]

Meghan had been Celeste Barbered
Celeste Barber on Instagram: "Unpalatable yet pretty. #celestechallengeaccepted @time @meghan"

I’m not sure who that is, but funny nonetheless.

 

[Healthy Sceptic]

Meghan had been Celeste Barbered
Celeste Barber on Instagram: "Unpalatable yet pretty. #celestechallengeaccepted @time @meghan"

The way she poses, showing off the tank watch and other jewelry, makes me cringe. Her whole demeanor does, honestly. She comes off as so insincere. It always gives me a chuckle when people call her on her pretentiousness. Thanks for the laugh.

I will say, as much as I disapprove of Meghan and Harry's ways and means, I think the focus on the effects of social media on young people is very important. It's a worthy cause, they should do more projects like this and less of the jam making Netflix fodder.

The funny thing is they could have done this in the RF and reached a much wider audience. But as you've all said, there's no way Meghan was going to conform to the BRF way of doing things. I don't think she ever had any intention to, nor did she try.

 

[Toledo]

The Duke of Sussex attended the Living Legends of Aviation ceremony in Beverly Hills yesterday, April 25:

Prince Harry Honors 'Quiet Heroes' Who Fought California’s Devastating Wildfires at Beverly Hills Awards Ceremony

Prince Harry returned to the Living Legends of Aviation ceremony in Beverly Hills, hosted by John Travolta, after returning to California from his trip to New York City with Meghan Markle.

people.com

Prince Harry seen at swanky Beverly Hills event as Prince William fills in for King Charles

Prince Harry spotted at a Beverly Hills event.

www.hellomagazine.com

Have everyone noticed this pattern on the news, or any event, Harry and wife attend? Then compare it to news on William and see the contrast on how the press behaves news manipulation on the two brothers:

Harry's news and events are always a rehash of the past, from pictures of him in his early 20s to the mandatory Princess Diana name dropping. As if to bridge her difficult life to Harry and M's life of privilege, parties and events where they talk down to the audience from the clouds of Hollywood hills and adjacent territories.

William's news coverage is more somber at times, and severe but still focuses on present day with emphasis on what is placed on his shoulders: covering for his ailing father, the same fears of his wife's condition relapsing in the future, and the constant shadow of Harry-at-the-door as if he was the one who has to bow down to a brother that questioned William's paternity skills just few years back.

It's the same formula on both articles, over and over again, Harry the never-missing-a-party aristocrat now acting as California's royal representative, William as the serious business-like head of the family far, far away.

Re Living Legends Ceremony, remember this is a self-congratulatory party that represents California elite life at its best, shallow and separated from the reality around them. They honor the fire department that fought the terrible fires in LA, yet no one mentions nor hints on the local government that cut down their budget and water resources,

I was wondering if they will include a new award this year for the female astronauts that traveled with Bezos' girlfriend to space? [.....]

 

[Curryong]

All I can see as far as Press bias is concerned, at least since the Sussexes settled in California, is about 99% negative media about Meghan, continuing on with what happened on her last year in GB with Press and media commentators.

Harry received increasingly negative British Press in his last months in the UK, largely due to anti Meghan ‘news’, and nowadays he receives about 98% negative, with also the US media having taken their cue from the British Press media, mostly since Spare was published. In the UK he is treated as a traitor because he chose to leave with his wife and son.

By contrast, since the Sussexes left, William and Kate’s media has been about 98% ultra favourable, especially reinforced by Kate’s unfortunate recent cancer condition last year. William is constantly praised for ‘statesman-like qualities’, and for deep seated loyalty to his wife and children etc. The couple’s loyalty to each other is continually emphasised.

I happen to believe that Harry’s loyalty to his wife and children is equally deep and meaningful but because Meghan is so disliked that is constantly discounted and portrayed by media commentators and others as her standing over him, being bossy, Harry being being henpecked and even afraid of his wife, she wanting the starring role etc etc.

None of these commentators, American or British, really know the dynamics of the Sussex marriage at all, especially those judging them from across the Atlantic.

I happen to believe that in fact they love each other and their children just as deeply as in most contented families and that they are in fact very happy together.

By the way, the Harry Party Boy reputation was long before his marriage and was hugely exaggerated in the Press because he and Chelsy Davy were considered good entertainment and earned clicks

 

[Hallo girl]

All I can see as far as Press bias is concerned, at least since the Sussexes settled in California, is about 99% negative media about Meghan, continuing on with what happened on her last year in GB with Press and media commentators.

Harry received increasingly negative British Press in his last months in the UK, largely due to anti Meghan ‘news’, and nowadays he receives about 98% negative, with also the US media having taken their cue from the British Press media, mostly since Spare was published. In the UK he is treated as a traitor because he chose to leave with his wife and son.

By contrast, since the Sussexes left, William and Kate’s media has been about 98% ultra favourable, especially reinforced by Kate’s unfortunate recent cancer condition last year. William is constantly praised for ‘statesman-like qualities’, and for deep seated loyalty to his wife and children etc. The couple’s loyalty to each other is continually emphasised.

I happen to believe that Harry’s loyalty to his wife and children is equally deep and meaningful but because Meghan is so disliked that is constantly discounted and portrayed by media commentators and others as her standing over him, being bossy, Harry being being henpecked and even afraid of his wife, she wanting the starring role etc etc.

None of these commentators, American or British, really know the dynamics of the Sussex marriage at all, especially those judging them from across the Atlantic.

I happen to believe that in fact they love each other and their children just as deeply as in most contented families and that they are in fact very happy together.

By the way, the Harry Party Boy reputation was long before his marriage and was hugely exaggerated in the Press because he and Chelsy Davy were considered good entertainment and earned clicks

Let us be honest here with regards the Sussex family, they are unwelcome in the UK because of SPARE, the documentary plus all the drip feeding of stories and underlying threats. Harry made it clear he does not like the UK, he put up with us because he felt he had to.
Their stories were full of holes, which served them no purpose as any true stories were then disbelieved.
'The I have not signed an NDA, I found a journal that I had been writing but forgot about, I have not told my full experience of what I went through,'
I hope they have a happy marriage and can make a successful life in California, but they need to move on.
Meghan can sell as many jars of jam she likes, we do not care, yes the press are filling the papers with stories because people click on and make them money but joe bloggs in the street could not care less.
They had the world at their feet and they throw it all away, for money.

 

[Curryong]

Harry had other issues about how he had been treated in the RF and money was the least of it. A person who feels he has ‘the world at his feet’ (really!!) wouldn’t think of walking away. He never complained about money before 2020. Nor did he complain in Spare or any documentary about the British people or the UK itself.

Just about how he felt for years about being shoved to one side as an unimportant spare and how Meghan had been treated in the media.

If people don’t care about the Sussexes why are the British tabloids constantly printing negative stories about them for clicks? Some people including the Joe and Joanne Bloggs in Britain (probably in the hundreds of thousands each week) must want to read about them (usually about how nasty and unimportant Harry and Meghan both are) or the clicks (and the money subsequently garnered) wouldn’t be so vital to the tabloids’ finances.

In fact this ‘unimportant’ couple that ‘people couldn’t care less about’ have been making an absolute fortune for the Press for over six years.

 

[Hallo girl]

If people don’t care about the Sussexes why are the British tabloids constantly printing negative stories about them for clicks? Some people (probably in the hundreds of thousands each week) must want to read about them (usually about how nasty they both are) or the clicks wouldn’t be so important.

It is exactly as you say click bait headlines for money for the media. Quite often it is too see how they low they have gone.

 

[Curryong]

But, with respect, you are contradicting your own argument. On the one hand you say that Joe Bloggs in the street doesn’t care about the Sussexes and just wants them to disappear.

On the other hand you are saying that the tabloid media prints stories about Harry and Meghan for clicks and does it to get money. Who then is clicking on these stories if it’s not the British man or woman in the street?

 

[Hallo girl]

But you are contradicting your own argument. On the one hand you say that Joe Bloggs in the street doesn’t care about the Sussexes and just wants them to disappear.

On the other hand you are saying that the media prints stories about the Sussexes for clicks and thus to get money . Who then is clicking on these stories if it’s not the British man or woman in the street?

What I am saying is yes people will click on , I have done it myself, but at the end of the day they do not really care. It is easy to click on a link, probably out of curiosity, what have they done now etc, , it IMO does not reflect any concern or care about them. It is curiosity and in some case for a laugh.]
I will add to my own post, there is a difference between clicking on clickbait on the online newspaper stories which might reflect an interest and the possibility of them returning to the UK to fulfil a role.
BY the way the internet is universal not just the British man in the street,