The Duke and Duchess of Sussex and Family, May 7, 2025--

[shady lady]

I do worry that these constant PR antics will only make our King's last years a misery one prays calmer heads will prevail.

Sadly I think it is already happening, I hope Charles can detach himself from it all whenever he gets the chance with his love of nature and the countryside etc. As if he doesn't have enough to deal with already with his illness!

The king is not a young man and should not be made miserable. No, he is not a saint, but nor was Diana (the media seems to canonize her and thus the Charles hate). He finally has the top job and his 'spare' wants to be a constant pain. Marry someone who will make you a better version of yourself. Someone who has almost zero contact with ANY family members or high school or uni friends is a walking red flag. I have friends dating back to elementary school that I'm still in contact with. Just crashed with my high school BFF last week.

Agree with all of this!

And PH is repeating the same pattern of behaviour with his father and stepmother that he used with HLMTQ and Prince Philip. People can see this, along with the obvious machinations of his latest super-aggressive PR team, but all it is doing is making him even more unpopular than he already is.

If only PH was capable of true self-awareness and could step outside himself and witness his own behaviour, particularly in the context of the current state of the world and the suffering endured by so many others - homelessness, hunger, poverty and much more. Perhaps then he would realise that not only is he not the victim he thinks he is, but that pretty much all of his current situation has been caused by his own actions. Sadly I fear he is not capable of that.

P.S. Hope you had a nice time with your friend!

 

[Mirabel]

I do worry that these constant PR antics will only make our King's last years a misery one prays calmer heads will prevail.

Really, the last thing someone battling cancer needs is more stress!

 

[muriel]

And PH is repeating the same pattern of behaviour with his father and stepmother that he used with HLMTQ and Prince Philip. People can see this, along with the obvious machinations of his latest super-aggressive PR team, but all it is doing is making him even more unpopular than he already is.

If only PH was capable of true self-awareness and could step outside himself and witness his own behaviour, particularly in the context of the current state of the world and the suffering endured by so many others - homelessness, hunger, poverty and much more. Perhaps then he would realise that not only is he not the victim he thinks he is, but that pretty much all of his current situation has been caused by his own actions. Sadly I fear he is not capable of that.

Very well put!

 

[An Ard Ri]

The duchess took to Social Media to post how much she enjoyed her game of mahjong .The photos were taken inside the living room in of her Montecito home.
Meghan plays a game of mahjong after revealing she has weekly 'squad'

 

[taogg]

The duchess took to Social Media to post how much she enjoyed her game of mahjong .The photos were taken inside the living room in of her Montecito home.
Meghan plays a game of mahjong after revealing she has weekly 'squad'

the Duchess's close friend Vicky Tsai, also the founder of Tatcha skincare, shed light on Meghan and Prince Harry's hobbies, revealing both enjoy playing mahjong and have taken up pickleball - an increasingly popular paddle sport that combines elements of tennis, badminton and ping-pong.

I’d guess As Ever will expand or collaborate with skincare soon, perhaps aiming at the Chinese market. But as far as I know, Chinese people (whether from China or America) generally don’t like her at all. That’s not because they admire the British monarchy, but because the Sussexes’ attacks on the royal family clash with the strong emphasis on family values in Chinese culture.

In a statement to the publication, Meghan, 44, and Harry, 41, said: 'Working with families and young people to prioritize safety online has been some of the most meaningful work of our lives.

Isn’t it ironic to claim that “working with families” is among the most meaningful work of your lives, when both of you have almost completely cut yourselves off from your own families

 

[taogg]

Allow me to quote J.K. Rowling’s recent X post, which I think hits the nail on the head regarding Harry. The greatest irony is that Harry recently declared in his interview that he loves and treasures Charles and the royal family—a change of tack I suspect he adopted because full-throated condemnation is no longer quite as fashionable.

Adults cannot expect to cozy up to an activist movement that regularly calls for a family’s harm, and then claim the right to that family’s love.

 

[Mbruno]

Allow me to quote J.K. Rowling’s recent X post, which I think hits the nail on the head regarding Harry. The greatest irony is that Harry recently declared in his interview that he loves and treasures Charles and the royal family—a change of tack I suspect he adopted because full-throated condemnation is no longer quite as fashionable.

Adults cannot expect to cozy up to an activist movement that regularly calls for a family’s harm, and then claim the right to that family’s love.

What activist movement are you referring to and how did H&M exactly cozy up to it?

 

[Ghost]

What activist movement are you referring to and how did H&M exactly cozy up to it?

I think it’s only about harming the family and then claiming the right to the family’s love.

 

[Ghost]

I’ve just seen a screenshot of a piece of news from GBNews which was saying that Thomas Markle is being trapped on the 19th floor of a building in Philippines (there was a huge earthquake there earlier today.)

 

[Alison H]

I’ve just seen a screenshot of a piece of news from GBNews which was saying that Thomas Markle is being trapped on the 19th floor of a building in Philippines (there was a huge earthquake there earlier today.)

Apparently, Samantha Markle has posted about this on X, and blamed Meghan.

I am not a fan of Meghan, but I think that blaming her for an earthquake might be going just a bit too far!

Hopefully, Thomas will be OK.

 

[Ghost]

Oh, I see. Apologies, I didn’t think that far. I hope he will be alright.

 

[yukari]

After Chelsey and his mother, now Harry has to drag William, Catherine, and her family into his lawsuits againts British press. Doesn't he have enough cases himself against Daily Mail?

Prince Harry drags William into battle against Daily Mail

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The Duke is one of seven claimants suing Associated Newspapers for alleged privacy breaches dating back up to 30 years. Associated, which also publishes the Mail on Sunday, denies any wrongdoing and says the “lurid” claims are preposterous.

In written submissions to the High Court, lawyers for the group claim that payments were made to private investigators for information about the Prince and Princess of Wales.
One concerns a payment made in 2003, allegedly for information about Prince William’s Out of Africa-themed 21st birthday party.
Another invoice from a different private investigator refers to mobile phone data belonging to “his associate, Catherine Middleton, now the Princess of Wales”.

There is also information about two occupancy searches relating to the Middletons’ family address and 10 phone numbers from a “family and friends” list, in which the Princess’s mobile number was highlighted.

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The Duke of Sussex has brought the Prince and Princess of Wales into his latest legal case against the media by claiming they are victims of unlawful information gathering by journalists.
Prince Harry’s lawyers told the High Court on Wednesday that the duke’s “associates” were targeted by private investigators paid by the Daily Mail.
One investigator allegedly provided details of a “mobile phone conversion [sic] related to his associate, Catherine Middleton, now the Princess of Wales, [and] two occupancy searches relating to the Ms Middleton’s family”.
Another provided information for a report containing “extensive details about Prince William’s 21st birthday party” with an “Out of Africa” theme in June 2003, it is claimed.

 

[Ghost]

The Byline implication!!! I know there are people who consider it a respectable source.

 

[Hallo girl]

I do not have any legal background so please correct me if I am wrong, but what right has Harry or his legal team to bring third parties in to his case when those people are not making claims.

A great many people who were identified as hacked settled out of court, members of Harrys' family included, and as quite often happens these remain private.

 

[pieve]

Thus, Harry will bring up the spying on Prince William in 2003 during his trial in 2025, even though he has clearly chosen to handle the matter privately and move on.

Harry is now using his brother's invasion of privacy as a weapon to bolster his own accusations and is taking the matter to court, publicly, without Prince William's willing involvement.

All of this leads me to believe that this will be a further obstacle to Harry's future reconciliation with the royal family.

I see the palace doors slowly but surely closing.

Prince William should file a complaint for invasion of privacy.

 

[shady lady]

Yep. PH proving once again that he is utterly untrustworthy IMHO.

 

[Hallo girl]

Thus, Harry will bring up the spying on Prince William in 2003 during his trial in 2025, even though he has clearly chosen to handle the matter privately and move on.

Harry is now using his brother's invasion of privacy as a weapon to bolster his own accusations and is taking the matter to court, publicly, without Prince William's willing involvement.

All of this leads me to believe that this will be a further obstacle to Harry's future reconciliation with the royal family.

I see the palace doors slowly but surely closing.

Prince William should file a complaint for invasion of privacy.

Harry appears determined to highlight some sort of secret deal between the palace and the media.
Hacking is a totally different thing and I am not condoning it whatsoever. .

Harry and his team release stories all the time to outlets under the guise of sources, although he has now gone to ground , Omid Scobie was the classic he admitted on tv that his stories came from people close to the couple.

You just have to read the Mail on Sunday for the latest scoop from Charlotte Griffiths, all from sources of course, and favourable to the Sussex couple, or negative towards other family members .

 

[Lori138]

Not only the above, but I thought Harry was 'tired of fighting'? So why not drop the rest of the lawsuits and get on with life? This is NOT the way to reconcile with your family.

 

[taogg]

After Chelsey and his mother, now Harry has to drag William, Catherine, and her family into his lawsuits againts British press. Doesn't he have enough cases himself against Daily Mail?

Prince Harry drags William into battle against Daily Mail

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If the trial starts, does that mean the Waleses and the Middletons will very likely be summoned to court to testify? Harry, please give us a break.

 

[Durham]

Latest episode of BBC programme about pr:

BBC Radio 4 - When It Hits the Fan - Available now

Available episodes of When It Hits the Fan

www.bbc.co.uk

Including discussion on the "men in grey suits" from a former man in a grey suit.

And unlike last week, the finger of suspicion is not being pointed at Harry this time.

The plot thickens.......

 

[shady lady]

If the trial starts, does that mean the Waleses and the Middletons will very likely be summoned to court to testify? Harry, please give us a break.

As in a subpoena? Hopefully that won't happen, that really would be a new low even by Sussex standards.

I'm pretty sure Charles is exempt from this sort of thing, as King. I don't know about other senior Royals.

 

[Durham]

The King can do no wrong aka sovereign immunity

 

[ladyjolene]

Isn’t it ironic to claim that “working with families” is among the most meaningful work of your lives, when both of you have almost completely cut yourselves off from your own families

Amen! Physician, heal thyself!

 

[taogg]

As in a subpoena? Hopefully that won't happen, that really would be a new low even by Sussex standards.

I'm pretty sure Charles is exempt from this sort of thing, as King. I don't know about other senior Royals.

Yes, I was referring to a subpoena. I also read the Times article, which suggests these celebrities could very likely be subpoenaed too.

In the High Court case, the Duke, actress Sadie Frost, Sir Elton John and his husband David Furnish, actress and model Elizabeth Hurley, former MP Sir Simon Hughes, and Baroness Lawrence of Clarendon (mother of Stephen Lawrence) all claim to be victims of unlawful information gathering.

I can’t imagine they’d be lining up to air all that in public.

 

[taogg]

The King can do no wrong aka sovereign immunity

But what about appearing in court as a mere witness? Would sovereign immunity still apply in that case?

 

[Durham]

Yes. The monarch cannot be compelled to appear in court.

Edward vii, but only when Prince of Wales, was subpoenaed in a divorce case. A great cause celebre at the time.

 

[Archduchess Zelia]

Harry and his team release stories all the time to outlets under the guise of sources, although he has now gone to ground , Omid Scobie was the classic he admitted on tv that his stories came from people close to the couple.

You just have to read the Mail on Sunday for the latest scoop from Charlotte Griffiths, all from sources of course, and favourable to the Sussex couple, or negative towards other family members .

And so do other members of the BRF. And they have done since the Charles vs. Diana days, I don't know why people pretend otherwise. The difference with the Sussexes was that using Scobie offered some sort of transparency – when Scobie spoke, there was no doubt it was coming from them – but that just gave them more digs somehow. Guess they should've stuck to briefing through "courtiers" like the rest of the family as that seems like the acceptable way of trash talking one another.

Frankly, I think this being a BRF modus operandi is shameful. Do they have nothing better to do with their lives than hurl sh*t at each other through the tabloids? Is the British public not ashamed?

 

[pieve]

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle pay emotional tribute to 'visionary' Jane Goodall

In a heartfelt tribute, Prince Harry and Meghan Markle remember the impact of their friend who touched their lives and the world.

www.express.co.uk

I'm obviously off-topic, but I'll try anyway.

Until this morning, I had my doubts about the Sussexes' narcissistic side.
Now, I no longer have any after reading this article in L'Express.

Yesterday, we learned of the death of Dr. Jane Goodall, a world-renowned British ethologist.
A pioneer in research on human-animal relationships, she was a fervent advocate for the protection and restoration of nature.
Her passing sparked a wave of emotion around the world, and in France, public television channels changed their schedules, starting last night, to broadcast documentaries on Jane Goodall's absolutely remarkable work. And there would be so much to say...

And now I read this article in L'Express, where the Sussexes pay tribute to her and declare: "What a friend she was and how she held our son Archie in her arms."

Well, I was speechless. In none of the tributes published around the world does anyone mention their personal connection to her, only what she did for science and the planet, to which she dedicated her entire life.

But the Sussexes are different, and what do they have to say about the death of one of the most influential people of our time?
Should they talk about their son?
Does it have to be all about the Sussexes?
So they're clearly self-centered.
They'll never stop talking about themselves.

Excuse my emotional outburst, but sometimes it feels good.

 

[Hallo girl]

And so do other members of the BRF. And they have done since the Charles vs. Diana days, I don't know why people pretend otherwise. The difference with the Sussexes was that using Scobie offered some sort of transparency – when Scobie spoke, there was no doubt it was coming from them – but that just gave them more digs somehow. Guess they should've stuck to briefing through "courtiers" like the rest of the family as that seems like the acceptable way of trash talking one another.

Frankly, I think this being a BRF modus operandi is shameful. Do they have nothing better to do with their lives than hurl sh*t at each other through the tabloids? Is the British public not ashamed?

As you say Harry follows the same modus operandi. I wish they would all avoid using sources. The thing about sources is when it suits it can be denied.

 

[victor1319]

And so do other members of the BRF. And they have done since the Charles vs. Diana days, I don't know why people pretend otherwise. The difference with the Sussexes was that using Scobie offered some sort of transparency ... Guess they should've stuck to briefing through "courtiers" like the rest of the family.

Yeah! And they are doing a very good job! Smoke and mirrors!

The audiance can speculate and is captured by the offered "facts". Everybody is busy. And nobody is connecting the dots.

I love it! It is regal entertainment!

And I fear, if we knew, how they really are, we all would be very disappointed...

But the Sussexes are a disappointment already! What they offer us, is so absurd, for example Meghan's hospitality show, folks lose interest already.

This cannot be said about the jolly Windsors!