The Duke and Duchess of Sussex and Family, May 7, 2025--


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This article is about an event that occurred last February.
Why publish it now, when Prince Harry is in the UK supporting his charitable work?
I'm no fan of Harry's, but I always wonder about the deliberate bad timing of some newspapers, because all these resignations don't reflect well on his work.
This is really an incriminating article against him.
Harry's anger at the media can sometimes seem justified.

 
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I wonder how Harry is doing in these days in UK without being told whom to greet, to whom talk and how long, where to go, etc.... Ah! These gentle, subtil, inoffensive and permanent taps on his shoulder, back, hand thanks to which he's has been "thriving" for how long it's ? 7 or 8 years..... Or perhaps this flight to UK was "reversal freedom flight" and he's enjoying being at least for few days on his own.... :devilish:
 
This article is about an event that occurred last February.
Why publish it now, when Prince Harry is in the UK supporting his charitable work?
I'm no fan of Harry's, but I always wonder about the deliberate bad timing of some newspapers, because all these resignations don't reflect well on his work.
This is really an incriminating article against him.
Harry's anger at the media can sometimes seem justified.


Hmm, perhaps…but why did he announce he was making a charity donation today? He could have just handed over the money quietly and not told anyone.

PH and the media use each other when it suits them. They have one very important thing in common…they both have an agenda.
 
The donation was given back in December of last year. So actually almost a year has gone by before it was announced. Not quickly at all…
 
The donation was given back in December of last year. So actually almost a year has gone by before it was announced. Not quickly at all…
Not quickly I agree but more reason to cast doubt on the timing of the announcement. He has had nearly 9 months to announce, it could have been to honour his mother on her birthday ( sorry wine was then ) or even to honour his childrens birthdays, but no he announces it when he happens to be in the UK< at a time when the family are honouring the memory of the late Queen. Is he trying to show us that he cares about the UK by donating personally to a uk charity.
 
He revealed it because the charity requested it according to the media. Seems he had no issue letting it stay private. It has been for months. Likely because they knew the coverage would be an excellent spotlight and might encourage other donations.

Per Newsweek.

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So we are supposed to believe that he was asked to make it public specifically this week, the week of the anniversary of HLMTQ’s passing, and also while the BRF is in mourning for HRH the Duchess of Kent whose funeral is next week, and nobody had the foresight to suggest he make the donation public after these events? So as not to distract from not only these significant events but what the real working Royals were doing to mark both occasions?

And if PH had supposedly wanted to keep it quiet up until the point he was “asked”, why did he not simply say “No”, or suggest revealing it later himself? It was his personal donation according to what we are being told, so his choice about how to go about it, surely? He could have put his foot down and insisted it stay private (surely his visit alone would be enough). A few days would not have made a significant difference in terms of donations.

So why did he not do any of these things? Answer: Because he didn’t want to!!!

This is all about PH, trying to pretend all the horrible things he did to his grandmother and the rest of his family and the UK didn’t happen, trying to pretend to the world that he’s still the cheeky chappie and all round good guy we all thought he was (when he clearly wasn’t). The biggest beneficiary in PH’s mind is PH himself. He tells everyone he’s doing these things, so everyone can see that he’s really a super chap and he’s still relevant, and it was the horrible BRF and MiG who forced him to do all those things he did to his family and country. What a load of nonsense.

If further proof were needed, why do we know all about the “secret” visit to HLMTQ’s resting place, that he laid a wreath? Just miles away from where his brother was marking the anniversary in a genuine and meaningful way? He knew revealing what he was doing would steal the headlines. It could have stayed secret.

And yet again, why choose to make loaded comments about siblings the other night? He must have been so disappointed that young man he spoke to not only got on with his brother, but they went to the same school too; not quite the opening he wanted. He couldn’t just say “Yeah? That’s great!” Nope, we got this “you know what - siblings” and the “challenging” remarks. Knowing that the press would leap on it, which is exactly what he wanted. It didn’t matter what the young man said, because it was all about PH and him being given a platform to create headlines for himself.

PH doesn’t hate the media, just the bits that say things he doesn’t like; he needs the media like oxygen, and it’s no use blaming the press for reporting it. They’re going to report what they see and hear, and he’s deliberately giving them what they both want; as I said previously, they both have an agenda.

So PH had no control over his choices, like he had no control over all the other choices he’s made, he’s always been forced to do it, so it’s never his fault?

Nope, I’m not buying it.
 
Both Harry and the King have been seen arriving (separately) at Clarence House this evening, so it seems likely that a meeting is on the cards. I couldn't care less if neither Harry nor Meghan ever set foot in the UK again, but, for the sake of the King and the children getting to know each other, I hope that something can be sorted out.

 
So we are supposed to believe that he was asked to make it public specifically this week, the week of the anniversary of HLMTQ’s passing, and also while the BRF is in mourning for HRH the Duchess of Kent whose funeral is next week, and nobody had the foresight to suggest he make the donation public after these events? So as not to distract from not only these significant events but what the real working Royals were doing to mark both occasions?

And if PH had supposedly wanted to keep it quiet up until the point he was “asked”, why did he not simply say “No”, or suggest revealing it later himself? It was his personal donation according to what we are being told, so his choice about how to go about it, surely? He could have put his foot down and insisted it stay private (surely his visit alone would be enough). A few days would not have made a significant difference in terms of donations.

So why did he not do any of these things? Answer: Because he didn’t want to!!!

This is all about PH, trying to pretend all the horrible things he did to his grandmother and the rest of his family and the UK didn’t happen, trying to pretend to the world that he’s still the cheeky chappie and all round good guy we all thought he was (when he clearly wasn’t). The biggest beneficiary in PH’s mind is PH himself. He tells everyone he’s doing these things, so everyone can see that he’s really a super chap and he’s still relevant, and it was the horrible BRF and MiG who forced him to do all those things he did to his family and country. What a load of nonsense.

If further proof were needed, why do we know all about the “secret” visit to HLMTQ’s resting place, that he laid a wreath? Just miles away from where his brother was marking the anniversary in a genuine and meaningful way? He knew revealing what he was doing would steal the headlines. It could have stayed secret.

And yet again, why choose to make loaded comments about siblings the other night? He must have been so disappointed that young man he spoke to not only got on with his brother, but they went to the same school too; not quite the opening he wanted. He couldn’t just say “Yeah? That’s great!” Nope, we got this “you know what - siblings” and the “challenging” remarks. Knowing that the press would leap on it, which is exactly what he wanted. It didn’t matter what the young man said, because it was all about PH and him being given a platform to create headlines for himself.

PH doesn’t hate the media, just the bits that say things he doesn’t like; he needs the media like oxygen, and it’s no use blaming the press for reporting it. They’re going to report what they see and hear, and he’s deliberately giving them what they both want; as I said previously, they both have an agenda.

So PH had no control over his choices, like he had no control over all the other choices he’s made, he’s always been forced to do it, so it’s never his fault?

Nope, I’m not buying it.
At first, I thought it was a good thing Harry was attending the charity event, as it's all he has left.
But then I read the dialogue between him and Declan Bitmead, a 17-year-old winner of the Inspirational Person Under 28 Award, who is almost completely blind.

Harry asks him if he has any brothers or sisters, and Declan replies, "Yes, I have a brother."
Harry asks, "Does he drive you crazy?"
Declan replies, "No, we get along really well."
Harry retorts, "You know, brothers and sisters."

The simple question, "Does he drive you crazy?", is extremely inappropriate.
Harry has the audacity to discuss his relationship problems with his brother in front of this young man (who has had a painful and difficult life and is overcoming them in an exemplary manner, earning him recognition), but everything has to be about Harry.
In this kind of situation, all the attention, all the words spoken should be reserved for the sick children, but Harry has to talk about his own suffering.
One question: are they comparable to those of these children?
I wonder.

Does Harry encourage negative thoughts and feelings in others? He tries to minimize his own bad behavior, presenting it as typical of a perfectly normal sibling relationship.
And he tries to get Declan to speak ill of his brother, even though he has a good relationship with his family.

Furthermore, Harry always talks indirectly about his mother or his brother; it has become his mantra.

Shame on Harry, who uses the children to draw media attention to his family's relationship problems. He is an immature man.
 
Both Harry and the King have been seen arriving (separately) at Clarence House this evening, so it seems likely that a meeting is on the cards. I couldn't care less if neither Harry nor Meghan ever set foot in the UK again, but, for the sake of the King and the children getting to know each other, I hope that something can be sorted out.

Indeed, a 55-minute meeting took place.
As a father, King Charles may have taken the opportunity to see his young son again, because who knows when Harry will return to the United Kingdom, and who knows the true state of the King's health?
It could be that a private reconciliation is underway between them.

However, I find it hard to imagine the Sussex family returning to Sandringham for Christmas and seeing them present during the royal family's walk to church.
And above all, I'm already afraid to imagine the reaction of the British people to this spectacle. I can already hear them screaming in horror. It's chilling.
 
Harry wanted it to be announced whilst he was in the UK, to ensure maximum publicity.

He's done a good job at his charitable engagements whilst he's been here. But he has to spoil it.
The sole fact that the timing of this uber generous donation seems dubious by so many speaks volumes about the current image of this once universaly loved chap.

What a waste.
 
Indeed, a 55-minute meeting took place.
As a father, King Charles may have taken the opportunity to see his young son again, because who knows when Harry will return to the United Kingdom, and who knows the true state of the King's health?
It could be that a private reconciliation is underway between them.

However, I find it hard to imagine the Sussex family returning to Sandringham for Christmas and seeing them present during the royal family's walk to church.
And above all, I'm already afraid to imagine the reaction of the British people to this spectacle. I can already hear them screaming in horror. It's chilling.
Even if it became possible for Harry...and that's a big IF...I don't think Meghan would ever be welcome. Too much bad blood there.
 
Many of us- and those we know- have had family estrangements, sometimes for good reason. And many of us have overcome the estrangement, and reconnected as family members.
There have been things to forgive, and many of us have had to forgive- or beg forgiveness- so that we didn’t lose our family.
But you have to be big to achieve healing and reconciliation; there’s no room for being small on either side. It’s not business- it’s family.

I hope there are big people on all sides of the Windsor/Wales/Sussex family estrangement. Forget, forgive, embrace and move forward with what’s left of life.
 
Yes its on Netflix (or is in the UK) and stares the wonderful Suranne Jones.
When Harry said he enjoyed it I couldn't help if it was in part because it makes him feel it related to him and what he seems to think might happen to him if he doesn't get any protection -just as the PM's husband doesn't seem to in the series.
 
At first, I thought it was a good thing Harry was attending the charity event, as it's all he has left.
But then I read the dialogue between him and Declan Bitmead, a 17-year-old winner of the Inspirational Person Under 28 Award, who is almost completely blind.

Harry asks him if he has any brothers or sisters, and Declan replies, "Yes, I have a brother."
Harry asks, "Does he drive you crazy?"
Declan replies, "No, we get along really well."
Harry retorts, "You know, brothers and sisters."

The simple question, "Does he drive you crazy?", is extremely inappropriate.
Harry has the audacity to discuss his relationship problems with his brother in front of this young man (who has had a painful and difficult life and is overcoming them in an exemplary manner, earning him recognition), but everything has to be about Harry.
In this kind of situation, all the attention, all the words spoken should be reserved for the sick children, but Harry has to talk about his own suffering.
One question: are they comparable to those of these children?
I wonder.

Does Harry encourage negative thoughts and feelings in others? He tries to minimize his own bad behavior, presenting it as typical of a perfectly normal sibling relationship.
And he tries to get Declan to speak ill of his brother, even though he has a good relationship with his family.

Furthermore, Harry always talks indirectly about his mother or his brother; it has become his mantra.

Shame on Harry, who uses the children to draw media attention to his family's relationship problems. He is an immature man.
It appears to me that Declan at seventeen has far more grace and maturity that the Duke of Sussex will ever posses. I'm glad that Declan didn't speak ill of any family member.
 
Many of us- and those we know- have had family estrangements, sometimes for good reason. And many of us have overcome the estrangement, and reconnected as family members.
There have been things to forgive, and many of us have had to forgive- or beg forgiveness- so that we didn’t lose our family.
But you have to be big to achieve healing and reconciliation; there’s no room for being small on either side. It’s not business- it’s family.

I hope there are big people on all sides of the Windsor/Wales/Sussex family estrangement. Forget, forgive, embrace and move forward with what’s left of life.
In my opinion in these instances, you can certainly forgive family members and move forward as best you can, but when such harsh things and so many lies have been said publicly about personal family matters, you don’t forget and you most definitely never trust in the same way again. I could see moving towards a civil and cordial relationship between the brothers, perhaps, but I can’t see how it could ever become a truly brotherly relationship for many, many years, and probably never. Harry’s comments to that young man - asking a total stranger and much younger person about his sibling relationship, implying that his brother must have driven him crazy, was incredibly inappropriate, extremely immature, show how small he truly is - no forgiving and moving on there! - and just plain awful for someone who is a patron of the organization. So incredibly self centered and bitter. I really admire that young man - how he disagreed with Harry and said he and his brother got along really well. That couldn’t have been easy and I agree that in comparison, Harry looks very small indeed.
 
Aren´t we reading too much in it maybe? It could be just a bit of banter to break the ice. Siblings at that age -also ones who have a great relationship- ofter are in each other's hairs. I know I was.

I doubt he means to discuss his problems with his brother with random people in the public. Until now he only discussed that in exchange for money for netflix or his biography.
 
Many of us- and those we know- have had family estrangements, sometimes for good reason. And many of us have overcome the estrangement, and reconnected as family members.
There have been things to forgive, and many of us have had to forgive- or beg forgiveness- so that we didn’t lose our family.
But you have to be big to achieve healing and reconciliation; there’s no room for being small on either side. It’s not business- it’s family.

I hope there are big people on all sides of the Windsor/Wales/Sussex family estrangement. Forget, forgive, embrace and move forward with what’s left of life.
I think it's difficult to compare the situation of an average family to that of the British royal family.

The British royal family is not an ordinary family. Almost everything about it is known to the world, and it wasn't the royal family that caused the rift with the Sussexes, nor the global revelations about the private lives of some of its members, nor the accusations of racism that damaged the monarchy.
Harry is responsible for all of this, and he has caused enormous damage, difficult to forgive given the celebrity status of his family and the responsibility it bears as a monarchy.

I also believe that Harry committed the ultimate betrayal of William. And I am deeply appalled by the pressure on William to forgive, especially since Harry has done or said nothing to suggest he feels the slightest remorse.

William grew up in a glass box, with the media desperate to find out more about him.
Throughout his life, he had to be wary of every new person who entered his life, wondering if they wanted to get to know him or simply had something to sell to the tabloids. He saw time and time again the dark side of the media, affecting everyone close to him.
His mother was harassed by journalists and photographers from the moment she became engaged, and the photographers hounded her until her death.
His father was humiliated by the revelations of his intimate phone conversations with Camilla.
His wife was harassed and persecuted during their relationship, and photographers invaded his privacy during their vacations, selling stolen photos.
Etc., etc.

As an adult, he was able to build an iron fortress with his wife and only the most trustworthy people around him.

And then, in the blink of an eye, his own brother, whom he trusted, publicly revealed his thoughts, conversations, private behavior, text messages, and even details about his private parts.
I read The Spare. Did I need to know that William was circumcised? Was it essential information?

Harry knows better than anyone the importance of privacy, for his brother and for himself.
Harry loudly asserts his privacy and demands respect for that of his wife and children. He revealed to the world information about William, Catherine, his father, and Camilla that no tabloid could have obtained.

How can you rebuild cordial and normal relationships with people you no longer trust? Because trust is the foundation of any relationship, whether familial, friendly, or romantic.
You can forgive, but that doesn't mean you can see each other again and talk. We forgive and move on with our lives, away from people who deliberately cause tension and problems.
 
Aren´t we reading too much in it maybe? It could be just a bit of banter to break the ice. Siblings at that age -also ones who have a great relationship- ofter are in each other's hairs. I know I was.

I doubt he means to discuss his problems with his brother with random people in the public. Until now he only discussed that in exchange for money for netflix or his biography.
Aren´t we reading too much in it maybe? It could be just a bit of banter to break the ice. Siblings at that age -also ones who have a great relationship- ofter are in each other's hairs. I know I was.

I doubt he means to discuss his problems with his brother with random people in the public. Until now he only discussed that in exchange for money for netflix or his biography.
It's possible Harry's words were misinterpreted.

I understood it my way, but doubts may still remain.

That said, the mere allusion to one brother driving the other crazy struck me as disturbing. Especially considering Harry and William aren't the best of friends.
It was a strange thought to utter.
 
Both Harry and the King have been seen arriving (separately) at Clarence House this evening, so it seems likely that a meeting is on the cards. I couldn't care less if neither Harry nor Meghan ever set foot in the UK again, but, for the sake of the King and the children getting to know each other, I hope that something can be sorted out.

I agree its the Sussex children that I feel very sorry for.
H&M have made their bed as far as I'm concerned !
 
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