The Duke and Duchess of Sussex and Family, May 7, 2025--


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This issue is so petty and blown up by the media etc I can’t believe it. Why sell something like that to the tabloids?
But no issue is tiny enough that Harry can’t be attacked on it, of course. Btw, I have myself got lost in suburban London streets, several times in fact.

Harry has a phone in his hand, according to the door-cam. He probably is calling his friend. That friend might not be very good at giving directions. Some people direct others to turn right when they mean left or vice versa.

And the fact that Harry appears to have a security guy with him, a glimpse was seen apparently, shows Harry is prepared to have security around him anyway. Don’t know why the security didn’t ring the doorbell.

It’s not primarily his own security Harry is most concerned with, anyway, but that of his wife and children.
I think a little differently from you, because for me, Harry also talks about his own safety. He's emphasized this several times, if only by saying he fought on the front lines during the war in Afghanistan.
In the BBC interview, he even specifies "for 10 years."
 
This article, if the presumption that it’s based on is true, offers more clarity: friends who used to live at one end of the street but have moved out, and parents of said friends who lived at the other end of the street.


It is so sad!
(I don’t find the publication of the image disturbing, it goes hand in hand with the images that were sold of other royals when off duty - William with Charlotte going to a birthday party comes to mind. If Harry minds it, he can sue.)
I just read the article and I feel a little sad for Harry.
He arrives in London, decides to visit a friend, and doesn't seem to have given him advance notice, as he would have known he'd moved.
In my opinion, this friendship isn't being maintained very well.
That's what I find sad. What happened to his friendships in the UK?
Harry seems isolated in his home country.
His family doesn't want to see him anymore (for now), and he's trying to see a friend, who isn't there when they show up.

Honestly, I don't think the best part of his life is yet to come.
 
Perhaps it was a spontaneous decision to visit old friends, even if he hadn't been in touch for a while. He had time, nothing else to do and just tried, but was unlucky. You can interpret it either way. It's also often the case that friendships cool down when you live so far away. Of course, some friendships are also over because these friends didn't approve of his behavior in recent years.
On the other hand, the photos Meghan has been posting lately make it look like they have a wonderful and happy life together. This could be for show or for real, it's really difficult to judge.
 
On a different note, the Sunday papers are reporting that Thomas Markle and Thomas Markle jnr have relocated to the Philippines. This first appeared in the Mirror, which isn't the world's most reliable source, but I doubt that they've made it up. The reports are also saying that he's struggling with the heat.
 
Actually I think the whole security issue is, as others have said, all about money. The millions they pay for security every year he wants to come out of someone else's pocket. Honestly don't think it has anything to do with being 'unsafe'.
Exactly. He may be scared of the random psycho, but I'll bet he's more annoyed by the paparazzi and the bottom line is they don't want to pay the millions. They're grifters always on the lookout for cash or ways to keep their cash,
 
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This issue is so petty and blown up by the media etc I can’t believe it. Why sell something like that to the tabloids?
But no issue is tiny enough that Harry can’t be attacked on it, of course. Btw, I have myself got lost in suburban London streets, several times in fact.

Harry has a phone in his hand, according to the door-cam. He probably is calling his friend. That friend might not be very good at giving directions. Some people direct others to turn right when they mean left or vice versa.

And the fact that Harry appears to have a security guy with him, a glimpse was seen apparently, shows Harry is prepared to have security around him anyway. Don’t know why the security didn’t ring the doorbell.

It’s not primarily his own security Harry is most concerned with, anyway, but that of his wife and children.

I disagree, the press are quite right to report it, it's a big issue over here and we have been subjected to endless bleating by PH about how dangerous the UK is while alleging "near catastrophic car chases" in gridlocked New York, visiting Colombia and Nigeria, and heading straight to Ukraine after the appeal!

Moreover, surely PH is concerned about his own security as much as his family's because if anything happens to him by default they are going to be affected.

IMO the bottom line is he wanted IPP status (for various reasons) and doesn't want to put his hand in his pocket, basically.
 
On a different note, the Sunday papers are reporting that Thomas Markle and Thomas Markle jnr have relocated to the Philippines. This first appeared in the Mirror, which isn't the world's most reliable source, but I doubt that they've made it up. The reports are also saying that he's struggling with the heat.
If you choose a new place to live in Southeast Asia at the age of 80, you should be informed about the climatic conditions beforehand, or so I thought
 
I disagree, the press are quite right to report it, it's a big issue over here and we have been subjected to endless bleating by PH about how dangerous the UK is while alleging "near catastrophic car chases" in gridlocked New York, visiting Colombia and Nigeria, and heading straight to Ukraine after the appeal!

Moreover, surely PH is concerned about his own security as much as his family's because if anything happens to him by default they are going to be affected.

IMO the bottom line is he wanted IPP status (for various reasons) and doesn't want to put his hand in his pocket, basically.
Agree, Harry like no other knows what it is like to loose a parent young, surely he has that in mind and considers his own safety.

Ofcourse this gets a lot of coverage for a relatively small thing that happened, but imo this is what Harry created himself by harping on about safety in the UK..if he was really concerned:
- don't go anywhere unannounced and be sure someone knows up front exactly where you are going
- if you go unannounced and are not aware the person has moved, i can understand going to the old address, but once it is established the person doesn't live there anymore, you don't just go ring at the next door, when you aren't sure who lives there
-if you wanted to surprise the friend and therefore don't want to call them, call a mutual friend to check the address with them (preferably up front, but ultimately after ringing at the first door)
- and if you are that worried about safety and you have a bodyguard/security person with you....why on earth would you knock/ring yourself?

it's the whole privacy thing all over again, i bet Southpark would have a field day with this (but Harry is getting so 2 dimensional in his obsession, it's probably not even fun for the Southpark team anymore)
 

I disagree, the press are quite right to report it, it's a big issue over here and we have been subjected to endless bleating by PH about how dangerous the UK is while alleging "near catastrophic car chases" in gridlocked New York, visiting Colombia and Nigeria, and heading straight to Ukraine after the appeal!

Moreover, surely PH is concerned about his own security as much as his family's because if anything happens to him by default they are going to be affected.

IMO the bottom line is he wanted IPP status (for various reasons) and doesn't want to put his hand in his pocket, basically.
The UK government , people and the family, The King in particular, are being pilloried by those who do not understand the process or chose not to understand it.
Harry keeps saying he has been refused security when he is here, which is an untrue statement, he is not getting what he wants that is the difference.
I also think it is in the public interest for examples of his attitude to security while in this country be demonstrated , not because I want anything to happen to him but to show his attitude. He was not that scared about wandering the street without an armed guard. This is Harrys problem all over , he says one thing but demonstrates something else. Or is he playing a blinder of a game , does he want somebody to
approach him, or even try to get too close then he can claim the lack of security caused the problem.
I would put nothing past him.
 
On a different note, the Sunday papers are reporting that Thomas Markle and Thomas Markle jnr have relocated to the Philippines. This first appeared in the Mirror, which isn't the world's most reliable source, but I doubt that they've made it up. The reports are also saying that he's struggling with the heat.
Jr was on, IIRC, Mark Dolan's podcast earlier this week and confirmed they have, indeed, moved to the Philippines. He said his dad has always wanted to visit some of the archaeological/historical sites in Thailand and across Asia, plus he was tired of being hounded in Mexico, so they relocated to the Philippines.

I'd guess he's likely struggling more with the humidity than he is with the heat as he's acclimated to a much more arid heat living in LA & Mexico most of his life. But, the Philippines is a good base for Americans since English is one of the official languages of the country still and many Filipinos are fluent in it.
 
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The level of security he’s wanting is the rolling carpet one, I’ve shared an article about that a few days ago. And the IPP, of course.
That's exactly it.
What Harry wants is to regain his PPI status. This would allow the Sussexes to never again pay for their security; it would be covered by the countries they travel to. As was the case during their stay in Canada at the start of Megxit. However, Canada has stopped funding them.

Here's what Harry said, unintentionally as a slip of the tongue, during his BBC interview. Here are his words:

"They decided to deprive me of my security in the UK, but they also sent a message to every government in the world: don't protect us."

He's referring to an international security service, and not just for the UK.

For Harry, it's not about regaining a right to protection, but a right to a very high level of protection, which would flatter his ego and allow him to save money.
 
Some really thoughtful points! You know, I would imagine that without the Oprah interview, Netflix whine, and spiteful Spare, all the court cases, and recent dumb interview, Harry and Meghan might have participated in some VE Day events. Even if he is not a working royal (until all the mess with him and Meghan I don’t recall a “working royal” being quite as big of a deal), he is still part of the family - but he blew it up and sadly, I have very little expectation of any reconciliation.
People forget Harry was not the first to step away as a "working royal". The Duchess of Kent did so in 2002, forgoing use of HRH and no longer doing royal duties and instead turning to music teaching. All done without too much of a fuss, well certainly not when compared to Harry and Meghan.
And there is no doubt at all that Katherine Kent, as she now likes to be known, would be welcome at all and any royal family event.
 
That is true, but she was always in the second row as the wife of a cousin of the Queen. Harry's position from birth was, or is, far more important in the pecking order, and let's not forget he is one of the sons of his world-famous and much-loved mother, Princess Diana.

This of course is not to excuse his behavior, he simply screwed up and I fear it will continue to be so.
 
It's true, what can he do now?
He was raised to serve the monarchy and the British people.
He has no established profession. Today, in Montecito, what does he do with his days?
I think the legal proceedings were a goal for him, a mission, as he himself said. But now, what's left for him?
He's written a book, given interviews, and participated in trials. And then, what will he do?

On the other hand, the royal family has continued to move forward. Without him, because he is no longer indispensable to the monarchy.
The hardest thing for him was probably sitting in his Montecito mansion, watching the British ceremonies celebrating VE Day. They were unique moments in history, moving and heartwarming. Harry didn't attend not because he had left the UK, but because he had deliberately attacked the royal family.

If Harry stays in the United States, it's quite possible that, over time, he will experience regrets.
He will have to face - or is already facing - the horror of boredom.
Meghan wont have this problem - she is enjoying herself in an environment she loves and craves.
Very often he looks lost at the same time Meghan is beaming.
 
In Harry's mind the UK is unsafe when a) there are paparazzi or b) the royal institution is around
(unsafe = look what happened to mum)

But i'm starting to think he actually does need a security team, if he is this wreckless without it
What happened to Diana did not happen in the UK; it happened in Paris.
 
The Duchess of Sussex shared her own memories of last night's Beyonce concert:


I've heard that concert is a failure, and they are practically giving the tickets away. It makes me wonder if Beyonce is calling in favors from celebrity friends, or offering future favors, to generate some positive buzz?
 
A guide-dog may be more useful.

But it's an odd story!
Why not call his friend? Call someone to ask where his friend lives? Google map? GPS in his car, I assume he didn't go by bus?
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@Muhler What amazes me is that just a year ago he, a retired army pilot, that was honored in that self-congratulatory event by Jeff Bezos and John Travolta, the Legends of Aviation 🛩️...and he can find a friend's house number on a street block?
 
This issue is so petty and blown up by the media etc I can’t believe it. Why sell something like that to the tabloids?
But no issue is tiny enough that Harry can’t be attacked on it, of course. Btw, I have myself got lost in suburban London streets, several times in fact.

Harry has a phone in his hand, according to the door-cam. He probably is calling his friend. That friend might not be very good at giving directions. Some people direct others to turn right when they mean left or vice versa.

And the fact that Harry appears to have a security guy with him, a glimpse was seen apparently, shows Harry is prepared to have security around him anyway. Don’t know why the security didn’t ring the doorbell.

It’s not primarily his own security Harry is most concerned with, anyway, but that of his wife and children.
Tiny? I thought we were still in a royal forum, everything about the royals is fair game for discussion, teasing, agreement, and disagreement. Besides, Harry himself seems quite concerned with the small stuff too—wasn’t he the one who complained that William got an extra sausage when they were kids? Perhaps to him, that sausage wasn’t a tiny matter at all. He remembered it for over 30 years and even wrote about it in his book.
 
Typo: I meant
...and he can't find a friend's house number on a street block?
 
Agree.

Instead of this wrong door story, British media should talk more about African Parks. I mean, considering how many articles and investigation about Sentabele being printed few weeks ago, back and forth media briefing from sources and everyone they could contact (including an exclusive interview with Harry's friend), surely the British press can pull the same effort to report on African Parks story, right?

(i wonder who will shoulder the blame if the African Parks makes bigger news? After all, Harry and his supporters always manage to blame everyone else but him for every negative story about him...)
The African Parks and Sentabele issues must be far too “tiny” for Harry. He’s never addressed the recent chaos from these 2 organisations, stepped away from one, and still had the time and mood to attend “big” events like the Beyoncé concert. Not saying the concert isn’t big, of course, but for someone who calls himself a humanitarian on his official website, it’s funny how little time he seems to have for the causes he once championed.
 
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Although Meghan’s business is still struggling in 2025, at least she's making an effort. What she really needs now is a competent PR team and people who actually understand how to run a business—and hopefully, she’ll start listening to professional advice.

As for Harry, he could have simply embraced the classic trust fund lifestyle: do nothing and enjoy it. Most people wouldn’t mind. But if he or his supporters want the public to take his “work” seriously, he knows exactly what to do. Because at this point, what else are we supposed to talk about? The lawsuit? The BBC interview? And now… Wrong Door Gate.
 
The usual counterfire against the ridiculously laughable wrong door comic show.
They are so predictable oh my ...

Am I old-fashioned? I find Harry and Meghan's pose almost vulgar. There's really nothing royal, nothing elegant, nothing discreet. If a couple wants to express their affection.

I meant to talk about this photo. Sorry for the mistake.
 
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Am I old-fashioned? I find Harry and Meghan's pose almost vulgar. There's really nothing royal, nothing elegant, nothing discreet. If a couple wants to express their affection.

Exactly my thoughts about that series of photos. For a long time I suspected that I primarily don’t like Meghan because she’s not elegant.
 
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I've heard that concert is a failure, and they are practically giving the tickets away. It makes me wonder if Beyonce is calling in favors from celebrity friends, or offering future favors, to generate some positive buzz?
yes the whole Cowboy Carter tour is struggling re ticket sales. I doubt H&M paid any money for their seats.
 
Exactly my thoughts about that series of photos. For a long time I suspected that I primarily don’t like Meghan because she’s not elegant.
There are indeed big differences. Of course, you have to bear in mind that both couples live in completely different worlds. Katherine and William in their British royal family with duties that they fulfill and that are rightly expected of them.

Harry and Meghan, however, have nothing more to do with royal duties. They live in their “rich celebrity” bubble, even though they are not Hollywood stars. But, I think that's the environment Meghan always wanted and has now achieved. Harry, on the other hand, has probably been catapulted into it and may not be finding his feet. You never hear or see him making new American friends either. As others have noted, it could be a problem for him to have no purpose, no goal in life and perhaps an inability to feel comfortable in this world of the rich in California.
 
New photo of the Duchess of Sussex with her children for Mother's Day.
 
A woman who lives in a million-dollar mansion, has a husband who doesn't work and probably employs a nanny, a domestic help and a gardener is juggling with raising two children?.
She really doesn't think enough about what she posts. Another disappointment for me, who once believed she was standing up for women's rights and disadvantaged women. I'm thinking of her commitment to various projects when she was still a member of the royal family. Was that all hypocrisy?
Besides, I'm tired of looking at photos where you only see the backs of people, so I'd rather not see any photos of the family at all.
 
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