The Duke and Duchess of Sussex and Family, May 7, 2025--


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carlota said:
And here I was, thinking that they promised not to use their titles for their business ventures…. 🤨😏
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I am not sure how the myth that the couple only promised not to use their titles for business ventures got started. The public statement issued when they left the family clearly states that they would not use their HRH titles, period (business or no business).

Statement from Her Majesty The Queen

Following many months of conversations and more recent discussions, I am pleased that together we have found a constructive and supportive way forward for my...
www.royal.uk www.royal.uk

"The Sussexes will not use their HRH titles as they are no longer working members of the Royal Family."​

On the other hand, no restrictions were announced on their use of their Prince, Duke or Duchess titles.
 
Tatiana Maria said:
I am not sure how the myth that the couple only promised not to use their titles for business ventures got started. The public statement issued when they left the family clearly states that they would not use their HRH titles, period (business or no business).

Statement from Her Majesty The Queen

Following many months of conversations and more recent discussions, I am pleased that together we have found a constructive and supportive way forward for my...
www.royal.uk www.royal.uk

"The Sussexes will not use their HRH titles as they are no longer working members of the Royal Family."​

On the other hand, no restrictions were announced on their use of their Prince, Duke or Duchess titles.
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True. It’s just an exceedingly bad look after all of their complaining about the family and institution. They even want their kids to use prince/ess. Even though their kids have literally no connection to any of it.
 
Tatiana Maria said:
I am not sure how the myth that the couple only promised not to use their titles for business ventures got started. The public statement issued when they left the family clearly states that they would not use their HRH titles, period (business or no business).

Statement from Her Majesty The Queen

Following many months of conversations and more recent discussions, I am pleased that together we have found a constructive and supportive way forward for my...
www.royal.uk www.royal.uk

"The Sussexes will not use their HRH titles as they are no longer working members of the Royal Family."​

On the other hand, no restrictions were announced on their use of their Prince, Duke or Duchess titles.
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Interesting. I most definitely remember having read the distinction between business vs personal and semi official (for the few official engagements they have left like invictus etc) - maybe wrong reporting at the time? Maybe it was the Sussexes own website which had something along the lines? Or maybe a misinterpretation of HRH title to also mean duke/duchess? I guess then that they aren’t necessarily breaking the rules they agreed on, but one wonders why they’d insist on using the duke / duchess titles they have that were given by an institution they despise.

(Oh wait, of course we know, because it makes their jam sell much faster! Talk about double standards)
 
carlota said:
Interesting. I most definitely remember having read the distinction between business vs personal and semi official (for the few official engagements they have left like invictus etc) - maybe wrong reporting at the time? Maybe it was the Sussexes own website which had something along the lines? Or maybe a misinterpretation of HRH title to also mean duke/duchess? I guess then that they aren’t necessarily breaking the rules they agreed on, but one wonders why they’d insist on using the duke / duchess titles they have that were given by an institution they despise.
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Perhaps you were thinking of the comments from the Sussexes’ spokesperson after it was leaked to the media that the Duchess used HRH with her friends. The Sussex spokespersons suggested there was a difference between commercial and noncommercial use. But the 2020 family agreement did not make that distinction.
 
Tatiana Maria said:
Perhaps you were thinking of the comments from the Sussexes’ spokesperson after it was leaked to the media that the Duchess used HRH with her friends. The Sussex spokespersons suggested there was a difference between commercial and noncommercial use. But the 2020 family agreement did not make that distinction.
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I still find that ' leak' rather odd, why on earth would you use HRH when sending a gift to a friend, why even put Duchess if it is to a friend.
Poking the bear again...
 
Kenya said:
And it wasn't just the two of them. They were still living in the cottage when George was born. Can you even imagine how much more oppressive it would've been to Meghan if she and Harry had had to live there with an infant? There would've been an additional segment on Oprah about how the RF didn't want Archie to live in a proper home because of his (hypothetical) skin color.


I think Harry didn't prepare her intentionally because he feared that if she did, she would opt out the way Chelsey and Cressida had.
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We do not really know why Chelsey and Cressida opted out, if he loved either of them so much and they him why did he not choose to walk away with one of them.
According to the Sussex's they were told Meghan needed to keep working as the family could not afford to keep her. Both these young woman are self sufficient with careers, they could have continued to support themselves, if that was actually a truthful statement.
 
Hallo girl said:
I still find that ' leak' rather odd, why on earth would you use HRH when sending a gift to a friend, why even put Duchess if it is to a friend.
Poking the bear again...
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I thought she did not care about the royal family, its hierarchy and customs and all that came with it. Surely that must be why she was so disparaging in her Netflix show about her first curtesy to the Queen. And how that may be congruent with having stationery with HRH is yet another of those things that perhaps only Meghan can explain!
 
Curryong said:
Harry didn’t ‘lose’ Sentebale. He and his fellow patron Prince Leeiso chose to resign along with ALL the board members because they felt that the Chair was not handling things as she should have. That’s not losing, that is resigning as a matter of principle.

And please, let’s not put the blame on either one side or the other for what happened at Sentebale until the Charity Commission ends its investigations and issues its findings.
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Isn't there an investigation pending concerning the (excessive) expenses that have been charged to Invictus? I heard that was in the works.
 
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Mirabel said:
Isn't there an investigation pending concerning the (excessive) expenses that have been charged to Invictus? I heard that was in the works.
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There is an ongoing investigation, but it is not (as far as we know) related to expenses, but to the performance of the trustees (that category includes the chairwoman, but not the princes who were only patrons without legal responsibilities). Read about it here:

www.gov.uk

Sentebale: Commission opens compliance case to assess concerns raised about the charity

The regulator for charities in England and Wales has opened a regulatory compliance case to examine concerns raised about the charity Sentebale.
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The princes' resignation, which was as @Curryong described, preceded the announcement of the investigation.
 
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muriel said:
I thought she did not care about the royal family, its hierarchy and customs and all that came with it. Surely that must be why she was so disparaging in her Netflix show about her first curtesy to the Queen. And how that may be congruent with having stationery with HRH is yet another of those things that perhaps only Meghan can explain!
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I think the only reason these 'leaks' have come out is to get a reaction from the RF. They have never had one yet so not sure why Meghan keeps poking at them.
 
Tatiana Maria said:
There is an ongoing investigation, but it is not (as far as we know) related to expenses, but to the performance of the trustees (that category includes the chairwoman, but not the princes who were only patrons without legal responsibilities). Read about it here:

www.gov.uk

Sentebale: Commission opens compliance case to assess concerns raised about the charity

The regulator for charities in England and Wales has opened a regulatory compliance case to examine concerns raised about the charity Sentebale.
www.gov.uk www.gov.uk

The princes' resignation, which was as @Curryong described, preceded the announcement of the investigation.
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If I understand correctly, the investigation has been asked by the chairwoman before the resignation but it was not reported/noted by the press.

LE I stand corrected, the comission started the investigation as the princes and the board resigned.
 
Tatiana Maria said:
There is an ongoing investigation, but it is not (as far as we know) related to expenses, but to the performance of the trustees (that category includes the chairwoman, but not the princes who were only patrons without legal responsibilities). Read about it here:

www.gov.uk

Sentebale: Commission opens compliance case to assess concerns raised about the charity

The regulator for charities in England and Wales has opened a regulatory compliance case to examine concerns raised about the charity Sentebale.
www.gov.uk www.gov.uk

The princes' resignation, which was as @Curryong described, preceded the announcement of the investigation.
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I thought the timeline had been that the CEO had gone to the charity commission first, then the two princes resigned along with the board. A new board was announced but some resigned soon after due to the pressure
 
taogg said:
Judging from her narcissistic behaviour after Megxit, I don’t think she would have ever been an asset to the royal family. In fact, I’m glad she left the UK, what a relief.
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100% agree with this. She hasn't got a suitable personality for life in the royal family. It would be very hard for most American's, never mind a Cali Girl who thinks she's the center of the universe. She was there for the applause and when that started to fade she lost interest.
Also agree that it's good to have her/them out of the UK. If she wasn't so thirsty for the limelight it would have been one thing, but to have her showing up to events in the UK trying to make it all about her, no thanks.
 
I'm just glad she's not in NYC.

The thing that made me doubt her intentions was a quote of hers in the Netflix reality vehicle "Harry and Meghan".

In speaking about approaching the altar at their wedding, Harry waiting, Charles at her side providing his steady arm, at a wedding she micromanaged, her comment was, "H and I are really good at finding each other in the chaos".

Chaos? A wedding that cost tens of millions of dollars and arranged by a team of seasoned and acknowledged professionals is Chaos? It is my humble and perhaps wayward opinion that Meghan wants to put forth a view that she is the sensible victim displaying exquisite manners while others in the Palaces are prejudiced schemers who blocked her ascent as the world's Lady Compassion, sponsored by Dior.
 
shady lady said:
My friend is devastated, she really wanted those products!!!! ;)
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It's sad for your friend, but she can console herself, she still has the opportunity to spend her money wisely: on July 1st, the highly anticipated Mehan rosé (almost beige) will be available. I hope it will be a good wine.
However, I can't explain why, but I have serious doubts about its quality.
Wine is a very serious thing, and the reviews will probably be harsher than those of raspberry marmalade.
 
pieve said:
The rosé wine launch will take place on Diana's birthday!
I hadn't made the connection.
There are 365 days in a year, and Meghan chose July 1st?
Oh, that's strange, a moment of inattention, no doubt.
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I hadn’t made the connection either. Most of us are just regular people while we feel sorry about her early death, we don’t mark Diana’s birthday on our calendars. But Harry does.

If a random brand launches something on July 1, fine, that’s coincidence. But As Ever? Please. That date was handpicked.

There are countless ways to honour your mother or mother in law, but turning her birthday into a marketing hook? The Instagram may not say anything, but it says everything. Bravo. What a touching tribute.
 
taogg said:
I hadn’t made the connection either. Most of us are just regular people while we feel sorry about her early death, we don’t mark Diana’s birthday on our calendars. But Harry does.

If a random brand launches something on July 1, fine, that’s coincidence. But As Ever? Please. That date was handpicked.

There are countless ways to honour your mother or mother in law, but turning her birthday into a marketing hook? The Instagram may not say anything, but it says everything. Bravo. What a touching tribute.
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Remind me what caused Diana’s accident?
 
Perhaps we should try to be fair in all our criticism. She never mentioned anywhere that her new wine had anything to do with Diana's birthday. Or did I miss it?
These are assumptions that are not substantiated. Perhaps Harry, who is mainly affected, since Meghan never knew her mother-in-law, would also have had something against it.
I could imagine that it has nothing to do with Diana, but simply with the date, July 1, instead of July 15 or sometime in July. Since she has ignored many things, it could be that she is not even aware of Diana's date of birth.
Besides, it would be a truly absurd idea to associate this date with the release of a wine that she certainly did not grow and harvest herself.
 
Hallo girl said:
Remind me what caused Diana’s accident?
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If I remember correctly, Princess Diana's death was caused by several factors: speeding, not wearing a seat belt, and, most importantly, a severely intoxicated driver.
Was it a thoughtful gesture to throw Meghan a rosé wine party for her husband's mother's birthday, knowing the driver was drunk?
 
hereditarytitles said:
Perhaps we should try to be fair in all our criticism. She never mentioned anywhere that her new wine had anything to do with Diana's birthday. Or did I miss it?
These are assumptions that are not substantiated. Perhaps Harry, who is mainly affected, since Meghan never knew her mother-in-law, would also have had something against it.
I could imagine that it has nothing to do with Diana, but simply with the date, July 1, instead of July 15 or sometime in July. Since she has ignored many things, it could be that she is not even aware of Diana's date of birth.
Besides, it would be a truly absurd idea to associate this date with the release of a wine that she certainly did not grow and harvest herself.
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The choice of July 1st may be insignificant, perhaps not.
I just checked a few French online media outlets announcing the upcoming release of this wine, and they all refer to Diana's birthdate.
For me, the release of this wine and the connection between the royal family and Meghan are striking. It's probably intentional, or not. But now the connection is established.

This wine must stand out from the countless brands saturating the global market.
It must generate buzz, even discovery, around its aromas, and I hope for Meghan's sake that they are neither weak nor diluted.
 
It's strange that she chose wine of all things. Europe, especially France, Spain, Italy, and Portugal, are traditionally the most important wine-producing countries and produce the best wines in the world. In recent years, other countries, such as California, due to its climate, as well as South Africa and Australia, have caught up in wine production to counter European dominance. There are good Californian, South African and Australian wines that can also be bought here, and some of them are really good.

But well, maybe she will be successful with it, but somebody who is a "connaisseur" of wine, will most likely not buy it, but I don't know the market in the USA.
If she doesn't succeed with the wine, it will be something else, maybe clothes, shoes, cosmetics, beauty products, yoga exercises, homoepathic medicine?
There is a large commercial field to explore, but she is not the first and only one and competition is getting stronger each day.
 
hereditarytitles said:
Perhaps we should try to be fair in all our criticism. She never mentioned anywhere that her new wine had anything to do with Diana's birthday. Or did I miss it?
These are assumptions that are not substantiated. Perhaps Harry, who is mainly affected, since Meghan never knew her mother-in-law, would also have had something against it.
I could imagine that it has nothing to do with Diana, but simply with the date, July 1, instead of July 15 or sometime in July. Since she has ignored many things, it could be that she is not even aware of Diana's date of birth.
Besides, it would be a truly absurd idea to associate this date with the release of a wine that she certainly did not grow and harvest herself.
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I don’t expect a daughter or son in law to necessarily know their in laws’ birthdays. But Harry who has spoken so often about his deep love for his late mother, should certainly remember the date.

So either he wasn’t informed about the release date, or he raised an objection and Meghan ignored it. If he didn’t object at all, that’s even more surprising. As I said previously, the Instagram may not say anything, but it says everything.
 
pieve said:
The rosé wine launch will take place on Diana's birthday!
I hadn't made the connection.
There are 365 days in a year, and Meghan chose July 1st?
Oh, that's strange, a moment of inattention, no doubt.
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July 1 is also Canada Day, isn’t it? Maybe Meghan also wants to honor the country where she worked /lived for part of her acting career.
 
hereditarytitles said:
It's strange that she chose wine of all things. Europe, especially France, Spain, Italy, and Portugal, are traditionally the most important wine-producing countries and produce the best wines in the world. In recent years, other countries, such as California, due to its climate, as well as South Africa and Australia, have caught up in wine production to counter European dominance. There are good Californian, South African and Australian wines that can also be bought here, and some of them are really good.

But well, maybe she will be successful with it, but somebody who is a "connaisseur" of wine, will most likely not buy it, but I don't know the market in the USA.
If she doesn't succeed with the wine, it will be something else, maybe clothes, shoes, cosmetics, beauty products, yoga exercises, homoepathic medicine?
There is a large commercial field to explore, but she is not the first and only one and competition is getting stronger each day.
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According to the Daily Express, Netflix is a ghost investor behind As Ever and Meghan is just a front for the company. They claim Netflix picks the products sold under the brand and Meghan merely gives them her public endorsement.

The Express is a tabloid though and Its reporting is not always considered reliable or accurate, so I can’t tell if that claim is true of not.
 
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