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Did Meghan (or Harry for that matter) insist on being named as executive producers on this project? Did they force the film makers to include their names? No evidence that this was the case.

Or was it in fact the documentary makers who, as was suggested upthread, thought that the Sussexes’ names among the other executive producers would help differentiate this film from dozens of others in the market. And so it was their idea, and Harry and Meghan just agreed so as to help the project along. I’d suggest that is a more viable explanation, actually.
 
The Oscars actually have extremely strict rules about who can be nominated in a Best Documentary producer slot.

Only people who have done 'significant work' on the film, or who performed a major portion of the core producing duties can be included. All nominees are vetted by the Producers Guild of America and the Academy's Documentary Branch Executive Committee to verify they are eligible, and those who filled an executive, co-producer or advisory role cannot be considered. Only two people can be nominated, one of whom is usually the Director, although more people can be added if they can prove they were integral to the production process.

I don't know how good 'Cookie Queens' is, or what ambitions the producers have beyond making back their money, but if it does end up being submitted for Oscars consideration, Meghan is NOT going on the ticket as a producer. She has been added at a late stage to bring in some media attention, and perhaps because she invested some money that covered a portion of the production costs, but that is the extent of her role.
 
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Did Meghan (or Harry for that matter) insist on being named as executive producers on this project? Did they force the film makers to include their names? No evidence that this was the case.

Or was it in fact the documentary makers who, as was suggested upthread, thought that the Sussexes’ names among the other executive producers would help differentiate this film from dozens of others in the market. And so it was their idea, and Harry and Meghan just agreed so as to help the project along. I’d suggest that is a more viable explanation, actually.

The Royal Forums World News continues to break in the latest updates! :news:📰🗞️

96 Hours ago I was at the Cookie Queens website, Thursday, and posted here that Meghan and Harry's names were not listed anywhere.
Last week screenshot:

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It's been 4 days, 96 hours and, today, they are listed and placed ahead and above all other names that worked on this production concluded before the mention of Meghan and Harry was added in days ago:


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When you scroll below the In Association with section moved the Artemis Rising Foundation and Good Gravy Films down to place Archwell Productions name is now ahead of their names today.
Last week's screenshot:
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Today:
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And the question is now, what designer will Meghan be wearing for the Cannes Film Festival, Golden Globes, The Oscars, the next National Girl Scouts' Cookie Selling Award...?

And this is an update after I posted the above:
I just noticed another name was added to the list of producers, Chanel Pysnik, who is an Archwell employee now as Archewell Productions Head of Unscripted since 2021. Here's the article revealing who is Chanel Pysnik
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So Caroline Graham wrote a very weird article where she basically confirmed it was Meghan who requested the consulate to visit Thomas. She also revealed Snr removed Samantha being a legal contact (and added her?!). So Samantha is completely in the dark, and knows nothing. And that lawyers recorded the interactions, including the passing of the letter to be sent to Meghan.

Also she confirmed she had been contacted by Meghan’s people but felt uncomfortable (I guess it was her lawyers) and directed all communication to the Daily Mail. But I thought she wasn’t there as a reporter but a “close friend.” or whatever.

Anyways it is pretty obvious nothing has changed in that father daughter relationship. And it likely never will.
 
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@ACO That opening line "My Tears with..." made me laugh. But it achieved the purpose to see how fake these tabloid reporters are when they exploit news to elevate themselves into the drama. This is not about Thomas nor about Meghan, is all about Caroline Graham and how the events are affecting her... on pages 14-17

And did you in here noticed her editor selected a Christmas tree in the background picture to exacerbate the emotion of the viewer? Not one with him at the hospital at his worst possible moment, a lonely father during the holidays theme where Caroline placed herself in as a Meghan Markle stand-by.
 
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On Wednesday, Meghan, 44, who has not seen Thomas Markle for many years, “reached out” to the 81-year-old with a letter hand-delivered to him in a hospital in the Philippines, where he now lives.

She has not attempted to ring him at the hospital, fearing a phone call could be overheard.

[...]

It is understood Meghan’s letter set out her feelings regarding her father’s decision to give several interviews to the media about their relationship.

Meghan is thought to believe his collusion with the media has been a major factor in the breakdown of their relationship and a key reason for why they are unlikely to ever reconcile. She has not received a reply to her letter, nor had any contact from her father since its delivery.

[...]
Before their estrangement in 2018, Meghan and her father had been close. After he and her mother, Doria Ragland, divorced when Meghan was six, she first lived with both parents but was later based more permanently in Los Angeles with Markle.
 
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“Is thought..”
“Is understood..”

Aka… we have no idea and guessing.

Granted it’s a realistic guess but what’s beyond clear is the media trying to stretch this story when it’s pretty much done
 
In my own experience reading mainstream British newspapers' monarchy coverage, "is understood that..." is typically shorthand for "from a briefing on background (not for attribution)".

Guesses by reporters or members of the public are usually described differently, e.g. "there is talk of", "amid speculation of", etc. etc.
 
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On Wednesday, Meghan, 44, who has not seen Thomas Markle for many years, “reached out” to the 81-year-old with a letter hand-delivered to him in a hospital in the Philippines, where he now lives.

She has not attempted to ring him at the hospital, fearing a phone call could be overheard.

[...]

It is understood Meghan’s letter set out her feelings regarding her father’s decision to give several interviews to the media about their relationship.

Meghan is thought to believe his collusion with the media has been a major factor in the breakdown of their relationship and a key reason for why they are unlikely to ever reconcile. She has not received a reply to her letter, nor had any contact from her father since its delivery.

[...]
Before their estrangement in 2018, Meghan and her father had been close. After he and her mother, Doria Ragland, divorced when Meghan was six, she first lived with both parents but was later based more permanently in Los Angeles with Markle.
This reads like Meghan has been talking to the press to me. The whole thing is her pov. Some pretty direct statements- she has not had a reply, she has not had contact with him, she had a letter hand delivered, she feared a phone call being over heard. Contents include her feelings about him speaking to the press, her opinion on why reconciliation is unlikely.

If people aren’t going to actually see or speak to each other, reconciliation really is unlikely in general. I doubt these 2 are going to be the 21st century version of Thomas Jefferson and John Adams.

This entire situation is a sad mess.
 
This reads like Meghan has been talking to the press to me. The whole thing is her pov. Some pretty direct statements- she has not had a reply, she has not had contact with him, she had a letter hand delivered, she feared a phone call being over heard. Contents include her feelings about him speaking to the press, her opinion on why reconciliation is unlikely.

If people aren’t going to actually see or speak to each other, reconciliation really is unlikely in general. I doubt these 2 are going to be the 21st century version of Thomas Jefferson and John Adams.

This entire situation is a sad mess.
I wholeheartedly agree that this is a sad mess.
 
This reads like Meghan has been talking to the press to me. The whole thing is her pov. Some pretty direct statements- she has not had a reply, she has not had contact with him, she had a letter hand delivered, she feared a phone call being over heard. Contents include her feelings about him speaking to the press, her opinion on why reconciliation is unlikely.

If people aren’t going to actually see or speak to each other, reconciliation really is unlikely in general. I doubt these 2 are going to be the 21st century version of Thomas Jefferson and John Adams.

This entire situation is a sad mess.

Sounds to me the reporter just pieces together the obvious. We already knew of the letter. That a DM reporter is by his bedside. The Markles literally post almost daily slagging Meghan. And Meghan hasn’t talked to this man in almost 8 years. I mean any of us could have written it.
 
I am confused ,why did Meghan even send a letter?.It’s almost like a press release. A phone call would have been much better. When Harry heard about his dad he flew immediately to see him. Especially all the nonsense Harry wrote and say about his father. I cannot believe that Meghan is that upset with her dad that she can’t forgive him for speaking to the press .Especially after she and Harry has spoken so much to the press ,about the royal family. She even have people magazine on speed dial. Something is off. Go see your Dad Meghan . Just awful.
 
I am confused ,why did Meghan even send a letter?.It’s almost like a press release. A phone call would have been much better. When Harry heard about his dad he flew immediately to see him. Especially all the nonsense Harry wrote and say about his father. I cannot believe that Meghan is that upset with her dad that she can’t forgive him for speaking to the press .Especially after she and Harry has spoken so much to the press ,about the royal family. She even have people magazine on speed dial. Something is off. Go see your Dad Meghan . Just awful.
I think it goes back to the letter being her property or legally belonging to her and cannot be published whereas someone listening in on a call can report/repeat what was said. If I recall this is why she won her previous lawsuit about the letter.
 
The fact we have a play by play by of the visits in his hospital room by this reporter is exactly why she shouldn’t (and won’t) go.

Meghan is rightly going through official channels because she doesn’t trust them.
 

We are in the USA ready for films to apply for Oscars, and I suspect Meghan's name was added it to give her the credit over the actual people that worked on the project and submit the documentary to the Academy "For Your Consideration" adding her name to get the attention over thousands of other documentaries applying for the five or so film award spot. It's all self serving and why the Oscars have lost credibility for years.
I find straw man arguments as entertaining as the next person, but a 2 second google search disproves this one - the deadline to submit films for the Oscars was last month.
Perhaps you meant the 2026 deadline?
I don’t watch the Oscars, not because I think there’s some conspiracy rigging the results, but because they bore me 🤷‍♀️.
 
I think it goes back to the letter being her property or legally belonging to her and cannot be published whereas someone listening in on a call can report/repeat what was said.
If that would indeed be a concern, I'm not sure I agree with how it was handled. I think there is a time and place for everything and an illness IMO is not it. I don't know what is going on with him, but it's possible that it is a difficult experience to be in the hospital. If it would be me, I probably would have called through the hospital or embassy employees, and said nothing significant besides "Get well soon" or written a note without telling anybody about it. Otherwise, it's also perfectly okay not to contact somebody at all, if this feels like a problem. But this whole matter with the spokesperson allegedly confirming that she reached out, is something I don't think was necessary.
 
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Ah yes, as I recall too much of the "tugging at heart strings" text was revealed in the letter.
A letter that he kept private until her friends revealed it to the media, the difference was that they did not directly quote just that it existed. Thomas obviously annoyed by what he viewed as negativity towards him went a step further and delivered it to the media , that was his mistake, he should have did a recollections may vary quote.
 
A letter that he kept private until her friends revealed it to the media, the difference was that they did not directly quote just that it existed. Thomas obviously annoyed by what he viewed as negativity towards him went a step further and delivered it to the media , that was his mistake, he should have did a recollections may vary quote.
I agree that Thomas should have never shared the letter publicly. However when I read that Meghan"s friends leaked the news of the letter's existence and that Meghan had requested help from her then staff member. Jason Knauf to write the letter, I realized that her behavior was no different from her father's and half-siblings'.
 
I find straw man arguments as entertaining as the next person, but a 2 second google search disproves this one - the deadline to submit films for the Oscars was last month.
Perhaps you meant the 2026 deadline?
I don’t watch the Oscars, not because I think there’s some conspiracy rigging the results, but because they bore me 🤷‍♀️.
"straw man"?
Are we now in some sort of online nickname insult territory? :unsure:


Re Deadlines:

I didn't check deadlines, but know that any film shown on a theater after January won't be accepted as submission until the following event. Still, by the film getting press and talk show traction thanks to the work and effort of executive producer Harry, with the help of his wife, the celebrities involved can get an invite to the Sunday, March 15, 2026 event.


And since we are here I found rules I had no idea existed, as in to qualify for an Oscar the movie has to be shown to a paid audience in these six cities:


II. ELIGIBILITY​
A. To be eligible for awards consideration for the 98th Awards year, a documentary feature film must fulfill one of the following qualifying criteria. The theatrical eligibility period begins on January 1, 2025, and ends on December 31, 2025. The eligibility period for winning a qualifying festival award begins on October 1, 2024, and ends on September 30, 2025.
1. The picture must have been publicly exhibited for paid admission in a commercial motion picture theater in one of the six qualifying U.S. metro areas: Los Angeles County; City of New York [five boroughs]; the Bay Area [counties of San Francisco, Marin, Alameda, San Mateo and Contra Costa]; Chicago [Cook County, Illinois]; Dallas-Fort Worth [Dallas County, Tarrant County, Texas]; and Atlanta [Fulton County, Georgia], for a run of at least seven consecutive days. Screenings during the theatrical release must occur at least three times daily, in the same theater, with at least one screening beginning between 6 p.m. and 10 p.m. daily.​
 
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On Wednesday, Meghan, 44, who has not seen Thomas Markle for many years, “reached out” to the 81-year-old with a letter hand-delivered to him in a hospital in the Philippines, where he now lives.

She has not attempted to ring him at the hospital, fearing a phone call could be overheard.

[...]

It is understood Meghan’s letter set out her feelings regarding her father’s decision to give several interviews to the media about their relationship.

Meghan is thought to believe his collusion with the media has been a major factor in the breakdown of their relationship and a key reason for why they are unlikely to ever reconcile. She has not received a reply to her letter, nor had any contact from her father since its delivery.

[...]
Before their estrangement in 2018, Meghan and her father had been close. After he and her mother, Doria Ragland, divorced when Meghan was six, she first lived with both parents but was later based more permanently in Los Angeles with Markle.

Megan choosing to go no contact with her father in 2018 was her prerogative, and whether Meghan wants to remain no contact or reconcile is her prerogative. But this episode in my book is not a good look at all for Meghan and demonstrates that Meghan is definitely a Markle, just in a prettier, more refined and better resourced package.

Basically Meghan's reached out to Thomas Sr., not to initiate some kind of reconciliation, or merely let him know that she wishes him a smooth recovery, she initiated contact to castigate him about giving interviews to the media. So seven years after Meghan deletes her father's phone number, she decides to reach out to her father who is hospitalized and a few days earlier had his leg amputated to, at best, state the obvious, or at worst, to kick him while he is down!

While I wanted to think that Meghan reached out to her father in a sincere attempt to connect to the primary parent from her childhood, I am starting to think that the outreach was opportunistic, perhaps market research indicated that reaching out to her father would enhance her brand or something of the like. As I already mentioned, if Meghan wanted to remain no contact, that would be her prerogative, but it is a low-down and dirty move IMO to initiate contact with Thomas Sr., at a time when he is experiencing a health crisis, to deliver that particular message. This is Markle-ism at its finest, opportunism served up in a foul packaging.
 
Megan choosing to go no contact with her father in 2018 was her prerogative, and whether Meghan wants to remain no contact or reconcile is her prerogative. But this episode in my book is not a good look at all for Meghan and demonstrates that Meghan is definitely a Markle, just in a prettier, more refined and better resourced package.

Basically Meghan's reached out to Thomas Sr., not to initiate some kind of reconciliation, or merely let him know that she wishes him a smooth recovery, she initiated contact to castigate him about giving interviews to the media. So seven years after Meghan deletes her father's phone number, she decides to reach out to her father who is hospitalized and a few days earlier had his leg amputated to, at best, state the obvious, or at worst, to kick him while he is down!

While I wanted to think that Meghan reached out to her father in a sincere attempt to connect to the primary parent from her childhood, I am starting to think that the outreach was opportunistic, perhaps market research indicated that reaching out to her father would enhance her brand or something of the like. As I already mentioned, if Meghan wanted to remain no contact, that would be her prerogative, but it is a low-down and dirty move IMO to initiate contact with Thomas Sr., at a time when he is experiencing a health crisis, to deliver that particular message. This is Markle-ism at its finest, opportunism served up in a foul packaging.
For me any attempt should have been made in 2018, at that point his only error was to pose for set up photographs, that could have been resolved, he was out of his depth and badly advised.
IMO what he then followed up with was desperation for Meghan to contact him. It is probable that he has crossed the line in her eyes, I am not going to judge, but maybe if it had been addressed in 2018 it would not have reached this stage.
All very sad and it will not get any better now,
 
Megan choosing to go no contact with her father in 2018 was her prerogative, and whether Meghan wants to remain no contact or reconcile is her prerogative. But this episode in my book is not a good look at all for Meghan and demonstrates that Meghan is definitely a Markle, just in a prettier, more refined and better resourced package.

Basically Meghan's reached out to Thomas Sr., not to initiate some kind of reconciliation, or merely let him know that she wishes him a smooth recovery, she initiated contact to castigate him about giving interviews to the media. So seven years after Meghan deletes her father's phone number, she decides to reach out to her father who is hospitalized and a few days earlier had his leg amputated to, at best, state the obvious, or at worst, to kick him while he is down!

While I wanted to think that Meghan reached out to her father in a sincere attempt to connect to the primary parent from her childhood, I am starting to think that the outreach was opportunistic, perhaps market research indicated that reaching out to her father would enhance her brand or something of the like. As I already mentioned, if Meghan wanted to remain no contact, that would be her prerogative, but it is a low-down and dirty move IMO to initiate contact with Thomas Sr., at a time when he is experiencing a health crisis, to deliver that particular message. This is Markle-ism at its finest, opportunism served up in a foul packaging.

Pretty much. This entire sad saga makes no one look good, including her imo. The more I think about this letter writing- the more I shake my head about it. It seems more like a PR exercise to me than an actual genuine reaching out to her dad.

Meghan is no better than her paternal side imo. She just markets herself better and puts on a better show. And even that better show is pretty limited because Meghan tends to not come across to me as authentic anyway.
 
Megan choosing to go no contact with her father in 2018 was her prerogative, and whether Meghan wants to remain no contact or reconcile is her prerogative. But this episode in my book is not a good look at all for Meghan and demonstrates that Meghan is definitely a Markle, just in a prettier, more refined and better resourced package.
I also had no issue with Meghan choosing to go non-contact with her father. Even though they seemed to have a loving relationship pre-engagement, I think it's fully justified to cut someone off when they repeatedly disparage you in interviews and can't be trusted not to divulge personal conversations. (Yes, Harry, that includes you too.)

Regardless, this has predictably turned into a circus, as everything with the Markles invariably does. I can only imagine the relief at Buckingham Palace that these aren't their monkeys or circus to deal with. Had Harry and Meghan still been working royals or even members in good standing with the family, BP would be the ones being asked for comment. I can't imagine what a nightmare that would've been for them.
 
For me any attempt should have been made in 2018, at that point his only error was to pose for set up photographs, that could have been resolved, he was out of his depth and badly advised.
IMO what he then followed up with was desperation for Meghan to contact him. It is probable that he has crossed the line in her eyes, I am not going to judge, but maybe if it had been addressed in 2018 it would not have reached this stage.
All very sad and it will not get any better now,
This is a good point. If Meghan deleted his number right after the wedding, at that point his offense was participating in the staged paparazzi photos and then lying about it when asked. Those photos were obviously staged and to make it seem like that was not known until the expose came out shortly before the wedding is akin to the police official being shocked that there is gambling at Rick's establishment in Casablanca. I suppose that I can see Meghan being annoyed enough at Thomas Sr. to need a cooling off period but I see the point, and of course mileage may vary, that the staged photos and Thomas Sr.'s behavior in the run up to the wedding, was not egregious enough to permanently cut ties.

Thomas did do interviews shortly after the wedding in an effort to tell his side of the story, and at some point he did go negative towards Meghan. The fascinating part is that in laying this out, you see the parallels with Harry and his relationship with his family in recent years.
 
Below is the link to the an article by Caroline Graham, the article itself is behind a paywall, hopefully someone will post an archived version of the article.

 
This is a good point. If Meghan deleted his number right after the wedding, at that point his offense was participating in the staged paparazzi photos and then lying about it when asked. Those photos were obviously staged and to make it seem like that was not known until the expose came out shortly before the wedding is akin to the police official being shocked that there is gambling at Rick's establishment in Casablanca. I suppose that I can see Meghan being annoyed enough at Thomas Sr. to need a cooling off period but I see the point, and of course mileage may vary, that the staged photos and Thomas Sr.'s behavior in the run up to the wedding, was not egregious enough to permanently cut ties.

Thomas did do interviews shortly after the wedding in an effort to tell his side of the story, and at some point he did go negative towards Meghan. The fascinating part is that in laying this out, you see the parallels with Harry and his relationship with his family in recent years.
I think Harry and Meghan should take some responsibility for her father being blindsided and overwhelmed with the media circus that showed up when they got engaged. How on earth could he be expected to know how to handle this? Surely they could have gotten the men in grey suits involved and/or coached him through it. I always thought this very strange. Mr Markle - while he admittedly did some super dumb things - also did wonderful things for Meghan for her entire life up to that point. I don’t think he deserved to be ghosted/cast into outer darkness for the pre wedding photo screwup. Had that been cleared up then….
Also Meghan could have taken Harry to meet him but obviously looking at her wedding guest list, unknown celebrities were more important to her than her father and her mother’s family.
Think for a minute how weird and unusual it would be to have 600 people at your wedding and invite only one family member….

Also, if your father, mother, siblings, very best friend, someone who is close to you, for example, has had the same phone number for decades, you’d have it memorized. I never had to look up my parents’ number, my sister’s number nor my daughters’ numbers. I understand that with cell phones you don’t have to remember every number, but I would think Meghan would have had his number memorized.
Also, I could see her being angry at what he’d done and blocking his number, at least temporarily, but as this article has quotes from Meghan about how wonderful he was to her from childhood through adulthood, I cannot fathom DELETING your father’s phone number. :sad:
 
More news about Meghan Markle’s new documentary 'Cookie Queens' with short excerpts below the links
My notes: most of the articles I found have the project as a future production, as in Meghan (and Harry) mentioned in future tense getting involved in the production.

So far the movie was filmed, edited and completed already and had a website and social media already running without a mention of either of them, and their employee Chanel Pysnik, as of last Thursday.

The only explanation is, and at risk of getting yet another online insult in here by a RFs user, that Meg and Harry found a time machine and traveled back to insert herself, Harry and their Archwell employee Chanel Pysnik, in the film about to open at Sundance Film Festival in a few weeks. 🚀👨‍🚀👩‍🚀


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Everything we know about Meghan Markle’s new documentary 'Cookie Queens'
The Rundown
Meghan Markle and Prince Harry are producing a new documentary about Girl Scout cookie season.
The duchess is a former Girl Scout herself...
In a statement, Meghan reflected on her own time selling cookies as a child.
“As a former Girl Scout myself, with my mom as my troop leader, I have a personal affinity for this film and am proud that all our conversations and collaboration have led to Archewell Productions partnering with this award-winning team to executive produce this incredibly captivating documentary,” she shared.


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Meghan Markle Shares Rare Photo With Mom

Meghan Markle’s newest project has brought her a sense of nostalgia. The As Ever founder and her husband, Prince Harry, are serving as executive producers of the documentary ‘Cookie Queens’ through their company Archewell Production. As Markle shared on an Instagram Story, this film, which focuses on the tradition of selling Girl Scout cookies, holds particular personal significance for her


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Meghan Markle shares a rare childhood throwback of herself and her mom in the Girl Scouts
  • Meghan Markle shared a new throwback from her childhood that showed her as a young Girl Scout and her mom, Doria Ragland, as her troop leader.
  • She also shared the news that an Archewell documentary, 'Cookie Queens,' is premiering at Sundance.
  • She called the documentary a "full circle" moment.

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Meghan breaks silence on huge role behind 'irresistible' documentary

Meghan Markle has opened up about her major role in most-anticipated documentary.
The Duchess of Sussex recently confirmed that she will serve as executive producer on Cookie Queens, alongside husband Prince Harry.
 
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