Sorry I mixed it up, Alar Karis is from Estonia of course. Still, the question remains why he was placed there.
OK thanks, I mixed up Finland and Estonia, your answer makes sense!
Because Estonie goes right in between.
Actually being the President of Estonia rather than Finland, it makes sense now (Espagne, Estonie, États-Unis, Finlande).
It’s mostly the catholic royals and ambassadors who attends installation massess. It won’t be on this scale when it comes to vip guests.
If you watch Trump at these events, Notre Dame, is an example he does look all around him. He takes note of what is going on. He takes in the surroundings. Love him or loathe him when Melania whispered in his ear at the hand of peace , he took it on board and shook hands, people wanted to shake his hand, they were stretching over,
But she does? She only wears it withouth the comb.
This forum is generally anti Trump. But I did not see him any disrespectful behaviour from him in the funeral.
I'm not familiar with Spanish culture. I thought it's mandatory to wear with the comb.
I noticed Trump didn't have (or was not holding) a booklet to follow the order of the Mass as the other heads of state were doing. I wonder if he wasn't given one (unlikely) or chose not to follow.
The mantilla is the lace veil, the tall comb is called peineta.
Queen Letizia wore a veil, didn't she? I believe she was appropriately dressed.
She wore a veil, which was not necessary. The protocol recommendation was black for women with hems over the knee and minimum jewellery. Head covering was optional.
Queen Mathilde could have left out the pearl choker, but it seems to be a favorite of hers for funerals.
Yes she was. She only should have put her hair up
Indeed. But if the Vatican would have something against it they could have forbidden it. At QEII's lying in state it was not allowed.
As I said before, it’s up to the host country to decide the seating plan—and certainly to set any rules for mourners too. From what I read in the news, the Vatican didn’t seem to stop people from taking selfies either. Perhaps the Vatican has become too modern for me to keep up with—but not at my funeral, please.
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All kinds of people go to the Vatican. Some are pilgrims with deep religious motivation; others are just tourists. Many visitors are simple people while some are high born. My impression is that the Church tries to be inclusive and accomodate all forms of popular expression from visitors on a very broad range, as long as it does not cause damage to the buildings and art therein, threaten other people, or disrupt ongoing services.
Veils are a sign of respect and a tradition worth keeping IMO. There's wanting to reduce pomp and there's also dropping protocols that are beautiful and which have stood the test of time. I hope most ladies attending Vatican events will stick to wearing one. MT of Luxembourg really surprised me and I think she looked less put together by forgoing a veil. Even Protestant royal ladies were wearing them.
What was wrong with his suit?
He also choose to wear a blue suit when the dress code is black - one does not have to follow a faith to know the basic decorum one should follow at these events
Not a Trump supporter (God forbid) but the King of Jordan, the Prince of Wales, the Portuguese President and even the hyper-catholic Grand Duke of Luxembourg, all wore blue suits.
Some people attack Trump just for breathing, it's tiresome.
