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Afonso could also marry Princess Maria Gabriela of Brazil.
Other possible suitors for him would be Princess Luise Maria of Belgium and Victoria Federica of Marichalar.
 
Afonso could also marry Princess Maria Gabriela of Brazil.
Other possible suitors for him would be Princess Luise Maria of Belgium and Victoria Federica of Marichalar.
Funny how you mention Maria Gabriela because there’s a rumor that she is dating Dinis.
 
There is a rumor between Prince Gabriel of Belgium and Princess Eugenia of Hanover. Princess Eugenia (born 2001) is the daughter of Prince Heinrich of Hanover (youngest brother of Prince Ernst August Sr.). I don't have proofs though but many people talk about this rumor.
 
There is also a rumour that Afonso is dating Princess Anastasia von Croy. It would make sense as he attended Xenia's wedding (Anastasia's sister) with his siblings and she attended Maria Francisca's wedding
 
There is a rumor between Prince Gabriel of Belgium and Princess Eugenia of Hanover. Princess Eugenia (born 2001) is the daughter of Prince Heinrich of Hanover (youngest brother of Prince Ernst August Sr.). I don't have proofs though but many people talk about this rumor.
I've also heard of it, I've no idea if it's true or not but it would be a nice match. They are fourth cousins once-removed through their shared descent from King Christian IX of Denmark.
 
There is a rumor between Prince Gabriel of Belgium and Princess Eugenia of Hanover. Princess Eugenia (born 2001) is the daughter of Prince Heinrich of Hanover (youngest brother of Prince Ernst August Sr.). I don't have proofs though but many people talk about this rumor.
Very cool if true, would love to see at least one of the young reigning royals marry another royal.
 
While Leonor as Queen of Spain will be free to issue her own decree making her husband a king, the chances are way beyond remote and not ridiculous at all. It may seem unfair to some of you, specially to a future consort having the title of a prince instead of king as was tradition in Spain, but Spanish society has changed a lot since then, and the title "king" for many people still have precedence for the simple reason of being a male. It won't happen today, and even less in the future.
And yet every other title a woman holds in Spain can be shared with her husband (except infanta but an infante can’t share his title with his wife either because of a gender-blind decision Juan Carlos made). I would think that male titles having precedence over female titles would be something society would move past.
 
Juan Carlos changed, with the decree to the title of prince to the consort of a queen regnant, something that as society most of us wanted, and was in line with many other monarchies in Europe like the British, Danish, Dutch.
Isn’t the argument that monarchies should stick to their traditions? Therefore Juan Carlos shouldn’t have gone against Spain’s tradition to go along with what the other monarchies were doing and unequal consort titles in the other monarchies is rooted in inequality against women, not men.

In fact, Juan Carlos' royal decree (with government approval :) ) only tried to give clarity to the article 58 in the Spanish Constitution "la Reina consorte o el consorte de la Reina". Meaning the consort queen or the consort of the queen, which literally means that in the Spanish Constitution there is no provision for a king consort.
“Consort of the queen” could be either prince consort or king consort.

Meaning the consort queen or the consort of the queen, which literally means that in the Spanish Constitution there is no provision for a king consort.
The only male consort so far of the unified Spain was a king consort.

Leonor's consort won't have an easy life. His wife will always be first institutionally, he'll have to give up all type of jobs except the one required of him - supporting his wife, while the rights to his children will be ringfenced against him in a contract prior to the marriage in case of a divorce. Not many aristos in Europe with good education and jobs will want that golden cage.
If he isn’t going to have an easy job he should at least receive an equivalent title to what the female consorts have received (and what the only other male consort of Spain so far received). You can’t deny that it’s strange that he’ll be Prince of Asturias when married to the Princess of Asturias but only a prince when his wife becomes queen.
 
In the US the first male consort of a vice president was given an equivalent title, role, and precedence to the past female consorts of vice presidents and it worked out just fine. The same would apply to royal consorts.

I see that no one has made matches for Jigme Namgyel Wangchuck, Crown Prince of Bhutan yet. Here are some princesses in his age range:

- Archduchess Magdalena of Austria
- Archduchess Juliana of Austria
- Archduchess Katarina of Austria
- Archduchess Sophia of Austria
- Archduchess Anna Astrid of Austria-Este
- Princess Victoria of Bourbon-Parma
- Princess Faathimah of Brunei
- Princess Noor of Jordan
- Princess Badiya of Jordan
- Princess Nafisa of Jordan
- Princess Amalia of Nassau
- Princess Gabriella of Monaco
- Princess Leonore of Sweden
- Princess Adrienne of Sweden
- Princess Halaevalu Mata’aho of Tonga
- Princess Nanasipau’u Eliana of Tonga
- Princess Charlotte of Wales

I see that no one has made matches for Jigme Namgyel Wangchuck, Crown Prince of Bhutan yet. Here are some princesses in his age range:

- Archduchess Magdalena of Austria
- Archduchess Juliana of Austria
- Archduchess Katarina of Austria
- Archduchess Sophia of Austria
- Archduchess Anna Astrid of Austria-Este
- Princess Victoria of Bourbon-Parma
- Princess Faathimah of Brunei
- Princess Noor of Jordan
- Princess Badiya of Jordan
- Princess Nafisa of Jordan
- Princess Amalia of Nassau
- Princess Gabriella of Monaco
- Princess Leonore of Sweden
- Princess Adrienne of Sweden
- Princess Halaevalu Mata’aho of Tonga
- Princess Nanasipau’u Eliana of Tonga
- Princess Charlotte of Wales
Also Princess Laetitia of Liechtenstein.
 
If he isn’t going to have an easy job he should at least receive an equivalent title to what the female consorts have received (and what the only other male consort of Spain so far received). You can’t deny that it’s strange that he’ll be Prince of Asturias when married to the Princess of Asturias but only a prince when his wife becomes queen.

In the US the first male consort of a vice president was given an equivalent title, role, and precedence to the past female consorts of vice presidents and it worked out just fine. The same would apply to royal consorts.
 
In the US the first male consort of a vice president was given an equivalent title, role, and precedence to the past female consorts of vice presidents and it worked out just fine. The same would apply to royal consorts.

I see that no one has made matches for Jigme Namgyel Wangchuck, Crown Prince of Bhutan yet. Here are some princesses in his age range:

- Archduchess Magdalena of Austria
- Archduchess Juliana of Austria
- Archduchess Katarina of Austria
- Archduchess Sophia of Austria
- Archduchess Anna Astrid of Austria-Este
- Princess Victoria of Bourbon-Parma
- Princess Faathimah of Brunei
- Princess Noor of Jordan
- Princess Badiya of Jordan
- Princess Nafisa of Jordan
- Princess Amalia of Nassau
- Princess Gabriella of Monaco
- Princess Leonore of Sweden
- Princess Adrienne of Sweden
- Princess Halaevalu Mata’aho of Tonga
- Princess Nanasipau’u Eliana of Tonga
- Princess Charlotte of Wales


Also Princess Laetitia of Liechtenstein.
Even rarer then a royal/royal marriage now a days is one of two vastly different religions.


One thing to pair two different Christian denominations. But I doubt the future Budhist king of Bhutan's wife will be Catholic, Muslim or protestant.
 
Even rarer then a royal/royal marriage now a days is one of two vastly different religions.


One thing to pair two different Christian denominations. But I doubt the future Budhist king of Bhutan's wife will be Catholic, Muslim or protestant.
People can always convert.
 
Even rarer then a royal/royal marriage now a days is one of two vastly different religions.


One thing to pair two different Christian denominations. But I doubt the future Budhist king of Bhutan's wife will be Catholic, Muslim or protestant.
The last king of Sikkim married the American Hope Cooke and she did not officially convert to Buddhism.
 
The last king of Sikkim married the American Hope Cooke and she did not officially convert to Buddhism.
While she never formally converted she practiced Budhism since childhood. Not a matter of her adopting husband's religion.

With exception of Charlotte, the list is mainly raised by very religious families. Converting and being queen in country where religion is ingrained in every day life is drastic. And not likely.
 
While she never formally converted she practiced Budhism since childhood. Not a matter of her adopting husband's religion.
Yes. She certainly tried to make herself sound cool and edgy with that claim. I have her autobiography. I take a lot of it with a grain of salt.
 
The discussion about titles of reigning queens' husbands in Spain has been moved to here:

 
Afonso could also marry Princess Maria Gabriela of Brazil.
Other possible suitors for him would be Princess Luise Maria of Belgium and Victoria Federica of Marichalar.
Oh, Afonso & Luisa Maria would make a beautiful royal couple.
And with the added benefit of uniting even more Braganza branches just like his grandparents did with their marriage.
 
If Bloody Mary and Philip II of Spain had had one child would that child have inherited the thrones of England and Spain? Would England and Spain have remained separate countries but been ruled by the same person? If they had had more than one child would one have inherited the Spanish throne and one the English throne? Trying to understand what would happen if two heirs/monarchs were to marry each other today, I doubt it would result in a union of the countries.
 
The initial plan of Emperor Charles was that the Habsburg territories would be divided. The Holy Roman Empire going to his brother [as they did], while Philip II and his eldest son, Prince Carlos getting Spain and the Italian parts of the Habsburg realm and a son of Philip II by Mary Tudor receiving the Burgundian inheritance in the Low Countries, coupled to Mary´s England.

Hadd all been inherited by one person I imaginethe crowns would stay seperated, as did many other Habsburg crowns. And perhaps at a later stage England going the same route as Portugal and the Low Countries in turning to rebellion and selecting another head of state.
 
The initial plan of Emperor Charles was that the Habsburg territories would be divided. The Holy Roman Empire going to his brother [as they did], while Philip II and his eldest son, Prince Carlos getting Spain and the Italian parts of the Habsburg realm and a son of Philip II by Mary Tudor receiving the Burgundian inheritance in the Low Countries, coupled to Mary´s England.

Hadd all been inherited by one person I imaginethe crowns would stay seperated, as did many other Habsburg crowns. And perhaps at a later stage England going the same route as Portugal and the Low Countries in turning to rebellion and selecting another head of state.
I can imagine that a similar thing would happen if two monarchs/heirs were to marry today then. I know the Swedish heir is barred from marrying another heir but idk exactly which other heirs are.
 
Given your great concern for what people are called, it’s not especially nice, gender-equalizing, nor is it accurate to refer to her as “Bloody Mary”. She had a notably difficult, sad life herself and her father had far more people put to death, for one thing.
That nickname is so woven into the culture that I didn’t realize it was problematic, that would be my bad.

That said I think it can be true that she suffered a lot in her life and that her actions were heinous.
 
The initial plan of Emperor Charles was that the Habsburg territories would be divided. The Holy Roman Empire going to his brother [as they did], while Philip II and his eldest son, Prince Carlos getting Spain and the Italian parts of the Habsburg realm and a son of Philip II by Mary Tudor receiving the Burgundian inheritance in the Low Countries, coupled to Mary´s England.

Hadd all been inherited by one person I imaginethe crowns would stay seperated, as did many other Habsburg crowns. And perhaps at a later stage England going the same route as Portugal and the Low Countries in turning to rebellion and selecting another head of state.
Did Mary I of England and Philip II of Spain ever live together while they were monarchs of their own countries and consorts of each other’s? How would living arrangements work in such a marriage? And if one child inherited the crowns of two countries I can imagine that they would divide their time between the countries and appoint viceroys for when they’re not present. I’m only now realizing that Mary, Queen of Scots and Francis II of France are another example of such an arrangement that didn’t result in children.
 
Afonso is much older than Leonor and Sofía, Victoria would be the best match for him. His younger brother Infante Dinis would be a better match for Leonor. However Afonso would have become king of Portugal if the Portuguese monarchy hadn’t been abolished so it would be cool if he became king/prince consort of another country (Juan Carlos undoing Spain’s king consort tradition is ridiculous but Leonor is free to issue her own decree if she wishes, after all her husband will be Prince of Asturias as long as she’s Princess of Asturias).

Dinis could also marry Irene Urdangarin who’s just a few months older than Leonor, Victoria, or Sofía. Other possible matches for him are Princess Luisa Maria (also a possible match for Afonso) and Princess Laetitia Maria of Belgium and Prince Guillaume’s daughter Princess Charlotte of Nassau. Though she would likely need to convert to Catholicism Princess Kako of Japan could continue being a princess (of Portugal) if she married Afonso.
She would need to convert but Princess Salma of Jordan could marry Afonso or Dinis.
 
I believe Philip of Spain and Mary of England only lived together for about 18 months after their marriage. Certainly when he became ruler of Spain he spent little time in England. He was mostly at war in the Low Countries.

Mary wasn’t young when she married, certainly not for those days, at 38 and it’s doubtful that she would have borne children at all. She had that humiliating false pregnancy during the time they were together, but I’ve got the feeling she would have died youngish and childless anyway, and Philip would have married again, which of course he did. I think the English were glad to be rid of him, quite frankly.
 
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