Princess Delphine & Family, News & Events 2; 2023 -


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At the risk of beating a dead horse, I think Delphine's choice to discuss her half-siblings and their mother on a public podcast - a podcast that appears to be royal gossip-focused - is not the same as Delphine choosing to discuss her feelings with friends or a therapist. We all have said things to friends that we would never say on a public podcast.

Delphine does not appear to be a stupid person. She knew what she was doing, and how her words would potentially hurt people- and these people were not responsible for the circumstances of her birth. Nor has she offered to withdraw her statements or provided any clarification of her intent.

If Delphine appeared to be a naive, uneducated woman, then I truly would give her the benefit of the doubt. But she can't have it both ways: it can't be that Delphine is an intelligent woman and has no idea that discussing her half-siblings and their mother on a gossip podcast would come off unkind and unbecoming.

There is nothing more ridiculous to me than when a person with a royal title, who chooses to use that title, complains that the system isn't fair to them, because they deserve more. As though nobility and royalty is meant to be a fair and equitable system. At its core, it is built on the principle that certain people, because of who their parents were, are granted more significant privileges than others. And every European system of nobility and royal house has always given more privileges to children born within authorized marriages. Again, it's not about equality. That's just how it is. If you disagree with that concept, then you fundamentally don't agree with the entire system, and you are hypocritical if you continue trying to benefit from the system.
 
Who is their link?


Does Lorenz receive an allowance? I’m guessing no.
Robert Fellowes and Ronald Ferguson are cousins. Their shared grandfather Algernon Ferguson had five children. Ronald was the son of his second son and child, Andrew. Robert was the son of his youngest child and second daughter Jane.

Claire and Lorenz don't get allowances, but that is more comparable to if Delphine expected her husband to get financed as well as her. Beyond a few patronages on Claire's part, they generally are private citizens who appear with their spouses on important occasions. Lorenz certainly makes substantial money in his career.
 
Does Lorenz receive an allowance? I’m guessing no.


Not only do Lorenz and Claire not receive allowances from the state, but it was voted by Parliament in 2013 (seven years before Delphine became the legal daughter of Albert II) that going forward, even the “spares” will not receive allowances – so Gabriel, Emmanuel and Eléonore will not be paid by the state, even though they are close in line to the throne.

See here for an overview:
 
At the risk of beating a dead horse, I think Delphine's choice to discuss her half-siblings and their mother on a public podcast - a podcast that appears to be royal gossip-focused - is not the same as Delphine choosing to discuss her feelings with friends or a therapist. We all have said things to friends that we would never say on a public podcast.

I agree, and in my opinion there is also a contextual difference between comments made by strangers and comments made by family members. One point raised above was that what Princess Delphine said about Queen Paola’s parenting was no different from what many members of the public and the press have said. That is true, and indeed, some members of the public and press have said even harsher things about the queen emerita.

But I would submit that there is a difference between an average citizen or a journalist commenting on a royal whom they do not personally know, compared to a person commenting on their own family member – especially when the family member is the commenter's stepmother, who publicly welcomed the commenter into the family despite the emotionally difficult circumstance of the commenter being the child of the woman with whom the stepmother’s husband had an extramarital affair.


There is nothing more ridiculous to me than when a person with a royal title, who chooses to use that title, complains that the system isn't fair to them, because they deserve more. As though nobility and royalty is meant to be a fair and equitable system. At its core, it is built on the principle that certain people, because of who their parents were, are granted more significant privileges than others. And every European system of nobility and royal house has always given more privileges to children born within authorized marriages. Again, it's not about equality. That's just how it is. If you disagree with that concept, then you fundamentally don't agree with the entire system, and you are hypocritical if you continue trying to benefit from the system.

I wouldn’t say discrimination between children born within authorized marriages and other children is fundamental to European systems of nobility and royalty, although it is certainly the norm today; there have been European nobilities and monarchies in which children of unauthorized marriages and/or children from unmarried relationships were given similar rights to those born from unauthorized marriages.

Nevertheless, and to your point, it seems undeniable that Princess Delphine has only publicly objected to discrimination that affects her personally – not saying a word about, for example, all the illegitimate children in Belgium who are not permitted to inherit her father’s title as she has.

She’s a mother of two and someone in a legal marriage.

Though it doesn’t alter the point you were making, Princess Delphine and Jim O’Hare are not legally married according to royal reporter Wim Dehandschutter, even though they have referred to one another as husband/wife (and been referred to as wife/husband by family members and journalists).



I would have thought Delphine might show some sympathy for Paola. What on earth is she thinking?

It is probably not a new development. According to a British press report from 2008, the then Delphine Boël depicted the then Queen Paola along with King Albert II as pigs in a sculpture she exhibited.

‘She communicates instead through her art, which has been bought by dealers all over the world and will be displayed next month in a prestigious gallery in Ghent. It will not appeal to the person she would most like to impress. One of the papier-mâché sculptures shows Albert and Queen Paola as pigs.

“I’m blamed for doing things that are a little vulgar,” said Boël, smiling at her model of the Manneken Pis, the famous Belgian statue of a little boy urinating. Her version includes a giant phallus in the colours of the national flag. She is having a “limited edition” of 100 made up in time for the show.

One painting shows the face of the artist looking out through the door of a washing machine, a reference to the king’s “dirty laundry”. Another work is a photo album of brightly painted male and female genitalia. Photographs of these will appear in her book.

“Some people see it as a threat,” she added, “but I’m not anti-royalist. I don’t want to bring them down. It’s not to do with titles or money. I just want communication.”’​

 
Delphine and daughter Joséphine have posed for the fashion issue of Belgian free lifestyle magazine Nina:


 
Joséphine resembles her mother very strongly.
 
It's amazing how, after receiving a royal title, you can become an Instagram star, and your young daughter, who is now a princess, follows suit.
Well, if it makes them happy...
 
Delphine has given an interview for this week's Belgian issue of Paris Match:


 
Delphine has given an interview for this week's Belgian issue of Paris Match:


How did she suddenly come up with the idea of advertising clothing and having her picture taken as a model? Is it about making money or the strong urge to be in the public eye, which is of course easier to achieve with a title? I thought she was an artist and originally only intended to assert her rights as the daughter of the former Belgian king.
One gets the impression that the whole court procedures to obtain her legal rights was about much more than that for her.
 
How did she suddenly come up with the idea of advertising clothing and having her picture taken as a model? Is it about making money or the strong urge to be in the public eye, which is of course easier to achieve with a title? I thought she was an artist and originally only intended to assert her rights as the daughter of the former Belgian king.
One gets the impression that the whole court procedures to obtain her legal rights was about much more than that for her.
Not knowing how the Paris Match works, could they have approached Delphine and she agreed to be highlighted in their magazine. Also, not being able to read French it would be interesting to read the article.
 
How did she suddenly come up with the idea of advertising clothing and having her picture taken as a model? Is it about making money or the strong urge to be in the public eye, which is of course easier to achieve with a title? I thought she was an artist and originally only intended to assert her rights as the daughter of the former Belgian king.
One gets the impression that the whole court procedures to obtain her legal rights was about much more than that for her.
Artists don't sell by doing nothing, so I would say being in the public eye helps sell her art, and that may be why she is doing this photo shoot. The blouse must be her design, as it has the same blablabla print as we have seen in her artwork for some years now.
 
Delphine and daughter Joséphine have posed for the fashion issue of Belgian free lifestyle magazine Nina:


That is absolutely cringworthy
 
Well she is technically not beholden for the state as she doesn’t get public funds, and doing it for attention I might agree about that, but desperate to have a title to use it to sell clothes when she gave Billions of fortune not millions from the inheritance that she would have gotten from her stepfather, I’m no convinced!
 
Not knowing how the Paris Match works, could they have approached Delphine and she agreed to be highlighted in their magazine. Also, not being able to read French it would be interesting to read the article.
The article is partly behind a paywall. The main message is:

“I'm not going to change to meet expectations; it's a matter of mental survival,” says Princess Delphine.
She has long supported creativity, particularly in fashion, by helping young artists and building bridges with established labels. On the occasion of a capsule collection she is launching for a Belgian brand, Delphine shares her multifaceted artistic perspective on art and life as it is. Underneath her dark suit, she has designed a pop art lining that delivers a message she loves: “Be yourself and stay that way.” It's a matter of mental health, she explains.

Here, she designed the lining of the suits, with bright colors and a playful print: the letters “blabla.” The message remains the same. Down with gossip. “Be yourself,” “Don't give up.” “Be happy.” Savor every moment of life."

 
Well she is technically not beholden for the state as she doesn’t get public funds, and doing it for attention I might agree about that, but desperate to have a title to use it to sell clothes when she gave Billions of fortune not millions from the inheritance that she would have gotten from her stepfather, I’m no convinced!
I also believe that Delphine wasn't just interested in money; she wanted recognition and justice. That's entirely understandable. However, she will still inherit enough money from her biological father and probably from her mother as well, even if it's not as much as she would have received as her father's sole heir.
An interesting article from the "Brussels Times".

 
I thought she was disinherited because Boel didn't approve of her behavior.
I don't see a nobleman happy and proud of having a daughter like her (in the public eye). The guy seemed old-school, and Delphine always seemed "rebellious" and self-centered, even if it was "because of her art." Add to that the fact that she's not even his blood, and voila.

Regardless of that, I'm surprised that people (even now, apparently) believe Delphine's "justice only" narrative.
When she declared that she wasn't after money, she accepted that she was already being disinherited by her father, not that she herself renounced it.
 
I thought she was disinherited because Boel didn't approve of her behavior.
I don't see a nobleman happy and proud of having a daughter like her (in the public eye). The guy seemed old-school, and Delphine always seemed "rebellious" and self-centered, even if it was "because of her art." Add to that the fact that she's not even his blood, and voila.

Regardless of that, I'm surprised that people (even now, apparently) believe Delphine's "justice only" narrative.
When she declared that she wasn't after money, she accepted that she was already being disinherited by her father, not that she herself renounced it.
I don't like this woman personally at all, but I try to be objective nonetheless. I didn't know until now that her foster father had disinherited her. According to the newspapers, she lost her inheritance because she initiated the process of being recognized as Albert's biological daughter. Since he raised her as his own child, it must have been a great disappointment for him that it was so important to her to be recognized by her biological father, even though Albert had vehemently opposed it for years.
In the end, she achieved her goal, but I have a feeling that it didn't make the majority of those involved any happier (except for her own little family perhaps).
 
Since he raised her as his own child, it must have been a great disappointment for him that it was so important to her to be recognized by her biological father, even though Albert had vehemently opposed it for years.
From what Princess Delphine said she barely even knew Jacques Boel, she would sometimes be shipped to his estates for a weekend or such, but she never saw him, she had to spend those weekends with his staff. So, there was never a real relationship between them and Boel apparently didn't care at all about "his" daughter.

best wishes Michiru
 
From what Princess Delphine said she barely even knew Jacques Boel, she would sometimes be shipped to his estates for a weekend or such, but she never saw him, she had to spend those weekends with his staff. So, there was never a real relationship between them and Boel apparently didn't care at all about "his" daughter.

best wishes Michiru
Jacques knew Delphine wasn’t his and was therefore never close with her.
 
I thought she was disinherited because Boel didn't approve of her behavior.
I don't see a nobleman happy and proud of having a daughter like her (in the public eye). The guy seemed old-school, and Delphine always seemed "rebellious" and self-centered, even if it was "because of her art." Add to that the fact that she's not even his blood, and voila.

Regardless of that, I'm surprised that people (even now, apparently) believe Delphine's "justice only" narrative.
When she declared that she wasn't after money, she accepted that she was already being disinherited by her father, not that she herself renounced it.
If I remember it is impossible to disinherit a child according to the Belgian law, they are entitled by the law to a huge percentage of the state of the parent even if they did try their best to keep their wealth from that child, she lost claim to the Boel wealth with being proven by court that she is not his daughter, the Belgian royal family is one of the most poor royal family by any standards, she would get at best a couple of millions, if she remained Boel’s daughter she would get billions!

As for her relationship with Boel as a father I don’t think there was any, when Delphine was born the marriage was already over and she was living most of the time with her mother and Albert before he returned back to Paola and reconciled!
 
If I remember it is impossible to disinherit a child according to the Belgian law, they are entitled by the law to a huge percentage of the state of the parent even if they did try their best to keep their wealth from that child
Yeah, that's something I'm curious about, but I thought he put a lot of it into some kind of trust that she wasn't a part of
and I don't know what other tricks
 
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