Princess Anne and Family General Information and Questions


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A mistake indeed. As low key and quiet as Tim is and has been since he married Anne there is no way he was secretly married and/or had two children and it would only come out now in a page of 75 facts for Anne's birthday 30 years after his wedding to Anne.
Looks to me like someone made a big mistake and it was quickly taken down.

Anne's sunglasses were mentioned on the instagram post put out today - it seemed a bit odd to me for the Royal Household to comment on such a thing. It also talked about Anne being nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize - which is true but I don't think it has ever been commented upon before by the Palace as its not usually the done thing to talk about. Seems to be the summer interns have been allowed to work on the media for Anne's birthday.
 
What is going on?! I find it hard to believe the Palace would have made such a blunder. Do they really have such inept people working for them?
A whole sentence was written out. It's not like someone erroneously typed a 2 instead of 1. Alot of thought went into that 14th item and names were given. It's hard to make such a mistake.

An explanation needs to be given.
 
Someone had the foresight to archive the deleted post.


Stepchildren are at number 14, the Nobel Peace Prize nomination is at number 18, and the sunglasses are at number 75.

Were there other questionable "facts"?

What is going on?! I find it hard to believe the Palace would have made such a blunder. Do they really have such inept people working for them?
A whole sentence was written out. It's not like someone erroneously typed a 2 instead of 1. Alot of thought went into that 14th item and names were given. It's hard to make such a mistake.

An explanation needs to be given.

I fully agree. Sadly, your points make even more plausible the going theory that a palace staffer not only used an AI app to generate the list of "facts", but never even troubled to have a human skim through it, much less fact-check it. As you point out, a human reader might miss a 2 substituted for a 1, but they would hardly swallow the appearance of two unknown stepchildren, even if they were reading quickly and not bothering to verify facts.

As for where AI may have obtained the material: The King has two stepchildren from his spouse's previous marriage, and the previous Princess Royal (Princess Mary) is the great-grandmother of Tom Lascelles and Amy Lascelles, who are brother and sister.

If the list was created through unethical usage of AI, and that was discovered, that would also explain why the entire article was retracted, and not only the offending number 14.
 
The Royal Household shared 75 facts about Princess Anne's life for her 75th birthday.
Interestingly, Princess Anne will have two stepchildren from her second marriage to Sir Timothy Laurence: Tom and Amy Laurence. Was this information already known?

Others may disagree, but I find this little contretemps endlessly entertaining ~ haven’t been so amused by the Palace since forever ⭐⭐⭐
 
British royal family researcher Marlene Koenig confirmed that, according to public records, there was no birth of a child named Thomas, Tom or Amy with a father surnamed Laurence registered in the UK between 1975 and 2009. (Sir Timothy was born in 1955.)

 
Interesting article from the Telegraph about Anne, looking back on her work and life so far


Princess Anne at 75: The best queen we’ll never have​

Ahead of her birthday, we chart the Princess Royal’s journey from the ‘sparest of spares’ to an indispensable figure

The list is online again and that ice cream fact didn't make the cut


74. Her Royal Highness has driven a double-decker London bus and a police car

And...as most of us could have predicted...the DM has the "exclusive" story


Whilst BP declined to comment officially:

A palace source told the Daily Mail Thursday: ‘The facts were checked, and that one was a late addition, sourced from a reputable publication online, which unfortunately wasn’t put back through the checking process. There was no AI sourcing on our part.’

If that is the case then BP Communications needs to seriously look at their attitude if they think Women and Home is a reputable publication IMO.

And they shouldn't be copy and pasting facts from any article and BP Communications staff should surely have a basic "go to" biography of each "official" RF members. and not be relying on any publication.
 
Definitely looks like AI. I personally find the Mackie’s ice cream reference (74) also rather strange. Great PR for the Scottish ice cream company but not something you’d expect on such a list.

Other than that it was poorly written with lots of repeats where the same fact was presented in different ways in subsequent ‘facts’.
 
Another new photo to celebrate the Princess's birthday.

 
A beautiful photograph, is there any further honour that the King could present to his sister or is she already at the top of everything. Possibly something she could be for his reign not just her mothers reign, but I cannot think of anything.
 
I think in recent years military honours are bestowed by the sovereign for big 0 birthdays - though Charles could of course change that. There are a few ranks Anne could be given though most of them are ranks that are only given out as honoury ones rather than to actively serving personnel now and are those that in the last reign went to Charles as heir or Philip (e.g. she could be made Admiral of the Fleet as Charles was in 2012 and Philip was in 1953)

Personally I'd love to see Charles bestow the rarely awarded Royal Victorian Chain on his sister, like HLM awarding it to her own sister on Margaret's 60th birthday
 
I think in recent years military honours are bestowed by the sovereign for big 0 birthdays - though Charles could of course change that. There are a few ranks Anne could be given though most of them are ranks that are only given out as honoury ones rather than to actively serving personnel now and are those that in the last reign went to Charles as heir or Philip.

Personally I'd love to see Charles bestow the rarely awarded Royal Victorian Chain on his sister, like HLM awarding it to her own sister on Margaret's 60th birthday
We will need to wait and see, in the morning, but that would be lovely
 
Would love to see Anne be admitted to the order of merit (Philip was and of the current royals Anne is by far the most suitable) or recive the Royal Victorian Chain… Her father held both so wouldn’t it be lovely if King Charles bestowed her with their late fathers insignia ?

But Edward and Sophie recived nothing new for their 60:th birthdays (though Edward recived the Thistle for his 59:th) so maybe Charles have stopped QEII’s habit of handing out something for big birthdays…
 
I thought Edward was made Duke of Edinburgh on his 59th birthday and received the Order of the Thistle on his 60th? I remember because I almost had money on Edward getting the DoE title on his 60th.

Edit - seems it was Duke of Edinburgh on 59th birthday, thistle on his 60th as per Royal Household statement and BBC report

DoE title
His Majesty The King has been pleased to confer the Dukedom of Edinburgh upon The Prince Edward, Earl of Wessex and Forfar, on the occasion of His Royal Highness’s 59th birthday.

Thistle
King Charles has awarded his brother the Duke of Edinburgh the Order of the Thistle - Scotland's highest royal honour.

The appointment comes into effect as Prince Edward celebrates his 60th birthday on Sunday.
 
I thought Edward was made Duke of Edinburgh on his 59th birthday and received the Order of the Thistle on his 60th? I remember because I almost had money on Edward getting the DoE title on his 60th.

Edit - seems it was Duke of Edinburgh on 59th birthday, thistle on his 60th as per Royal Household statement and BBC report

DoE title


Thistle
That’s right… I must learn to not post too late in the nights when my body is awake but my brain has gone to sleep 😅
 
I was thinking about it today and I realised its not at all surprising no honours of military ranks have been announced for Anne today with it being the 80th commemorations of VJ Day. It wouldn't be good or proper to announce Anne getting new things on a day like today. If she is getting anything I suspect it will be announced quietly in a few weeks or so. It also explains why the RF social media channels were heavy on the birthday celebrations all week - knowing today rightly should focus on VJ Day.
 
Interesting article from the Telegraph about Anne, looking back on her work and life so far


Princess Anne at 75: The best queen we’ll never have​

Ahead of her birthday, we chart the Princess Royal’s journey from the ‘sparest of spares’ to an indispensable figure

It always surprises me that the Princess Royal is so well-respected and -liked not only by royal watchers, but by the general public (as attested to by polling), because she embodies so many qualities that, at least in social media culture, usually attract more mockery and nastiness than admiration: elderly, not conventionally beautiful or stylish, blunt and open in an offbeat manner, living for the bread-and-butter over the optics and zeitgeist, and unabashedly old-school (what many would label “conservative”) in her outlook and mission.

So I do not understand why she is the exception to the popularity rule – but it makes me happy to see.
 
It always surprises me that the Princess Royal is so well-respected and -liked not only by royal watchers, but by the general public (as attested to by polling), because she embodies so many qualities that, at least in social media culture, usually attract more mockery and nastiness than admiration: elderly, not conventionally beautiful or stylish, blunt and open in an offbeat manner, living for the bread-and-butter over the optics and zeitgeist, and unabashedly old-school (what many would label “conservative”) in her outlook and mission.

So I do not understand why she is the exception to the popularity rule – but it makes me happy to see.
She’s not and she hasn’t always been. Like her brother, she was a lot less popular when Diana was around; generally considered sour and blunt verging on nasty, unattractive, marriage breaking up badly, having a long-running semi-feud with the press… She’s stuck it all out and people admire fortitude. And like vintage clothes, what was once unfashionable and mocked eventually becomes prized and admired.

And again like her brother, I think her image has been burnished of late because they deservedly remind people of their parents and that continuity feels good and reassuring.
 
I think she turned it around my keeping her head down, quietly getting on and doing the unglamorous duties all over the UK and beyond. No one can deny she does a lot.
 
I am old enough to remember a time when the only thing people talked about was Diana and a little bit about The Queen Mom… When it was popular to hate especially Anne, Charles and Edward…. When Andrew was seen as the best of the late Queen’s children…. When even QEII and Philip wasn’t nearly as well liked as they later became and was when they died….

Anne has got a lot of **** for being unglamorous, unfashionable, angry and rude… Not many people admired her for anything back then and not many people credited her for the enormous workload she carried and still does…

Thankfully things have changed today…
 
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