Prince Ernst August of Cumberland and Princess Viktoria Luise of Prussia - 1913


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24 May 1913 Prince Ernst August of Cumberland, future Duke of Brunswick-Luneburg, married princess Viktoria Luise of Prussia, daughter of Emperor Wilhelm II. The couple married in Berlin:

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The couple:

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And the famous portrait of Tsar Nicholas II and King George V was also made on thos occassion:

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While i was in Eastern Europe i came upon this beautiful medallion to cemmemorate their wedding i will take a photo of the front later this is the reverse, of the very historical item, would love to know how many of these were struck, any information would be, really appreciated.
 
Reverse side

Will try put a frontal of this commemoration medal shortly
 

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I would be delighted to hear if anyone has one of these or can provide any information on the makers etc, please pm me.
 
I am green with envy over all the lovely gowns the ladies are wearing in the first image. Wow!

I am ALL about the historical fashions. <3
 
Elena Iuliana said:
A really interesting piece of history you have got here! Congratulations!
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Thank you, yes it is a really nice piece, in very good condition, would love to know more about it's history, how many were made etc, and by whom? someone must have held this particular medallion very dear, enough for to wear it.
 
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The wedding celebrations of Princess Viktoria Luise and Prince Ernst August ended with the Fackeltanz. The Fackeltanz was a torch dance. This dance was only performed at German royal weddings. No one below the rank of Royal Highness was allowed to take part.
 
Part of the wedding procession of Princess Viktoria Luise was filmed in color.
 
I saw an exhibition about her at Huis Doorn in the Netherlands.
 
Some time before she met Ernst August, she wanted to marry Count Georg von Fugger Babenhausen, but the Kaiser refused this. Luckily she was happily married to Ernst August.
 
CyrilVladisla said:
The wedding celebrations of Princess Viktoria Luise and Prince Ernst August ended with the Fackeltanz. The Fackeltanz was a torch dance. This dance was only performed at German royal weddings. No one below the rank of Royal Highness was allowed to take part.
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The Fackeltanz has its roots in the court ceremonial of Emperor Constantine (272-337) and was later customary at several German courts as well as the English, French and Danish courts. At the Prussian court the dance looked as follows: Twelve male princes, assisted by pagers, carried burning torches in their hands. In the first round the bride and groom dance alone, after which in the second round the bride invited the emperor and then the other highnesses. Finally, the groom danced with the empress and the princesses. Initially the dance would have ended with the newlyweds being led to their bed.
A variety of the Fackeltanz was also a tradition at Swedish royal weddings until King Carl XIV Johan vetoed its use at the wedding of his son Prince Oscar to Princess Josephine of Leuchtenberg in 1823. In Sweden it was instead the members of the Royal Council that danced for the newlyweds after they had been put into bed.

I've read somewhere that the dance has been performed many times at post-WWII German weddings. One of them the wedding of Prince Georg Wilhelm of Hannover to Princess Sophie of Greece/Hesse.
 
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CyrilVladisla said:
A colored illustration of Princess Victoria Louise on her wedding day
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I noticed that then royal brides used to wear, out of à tiara, also à round crown in top of their head. Queen Ingrid did so and also Victoria Luisa and her daughter Princess Frederica while marrying CP Pavlos of Greece.
This habit of Crown disappear later, does anyone know the real meaning and why it has disappeared ?
Thanks
 
fandesacs2003 said:
I noticed that then royal brides used to wear, out of à tiara, also à round crown in top of their head. Queen Ingrid did so and also Victoria Luisa and her daughter Princess Frederica while marrying CP Pavlos of Greece.
This habit of Crown disappear later, does anyone know the real meaning and why it has disappeared ?
Thanks
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I don't know about the tradition of bridal crowns for royal brides in general, but I'm not sure if the reason for the myrtle crown that the then Swedish Princess Ingrid wore at her wedding was the same as for those worn by Princesses Victoria Luisa and Frederica.

There has been a tradition in Sweden, and the other Scandinavian countries, since the 16th century, that the bride borrowed a crown from the parish on her wedding day (see Princess Margaretha of Sweden in 1964). I would guess that most parish churches in Sweden has, or has had, a brudkrona (bride crown) to lend to brides. In the end of the 19th century myrtle crowns became popular, and that is most likely why Princess Ingrid chose one for her wedding. In the 1960s and1970s it became popular with bridal crowns made of new materials, such as crocheted crowns, lace crowns, straw crowns, and even glass crowns. There are still lots of patterns online for crocheted bridal crowns.
From the beginning (16th century) and often into the beginning of the 20th century it was only a virgin bride who was allowed to borrow the bridal crown from the church, and if it was found out she hadn't been a virgin, the couple had to pay a fine to the church so that the crown could be 'purified' again.
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Prussian Princesses or Princesses who married into the prussian RF usually wore the Crown of the Princesses of Prussia. It was usually placed by the queen or later Empress on the head of the bride before the Ceremony.
 
Queen Frederica wore it and she wore also a diamond tiara !
 
Why was he syled Prince Ernst of Cumberland? He wasn't even a great grandson of a British monarch.
 
Durham said:
Why was he syled Prince Ernst of Cumberland? He wasn't even a great grandson of a British monarch.
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His great-grandfather was the son of king George III and got the peerage in 1799 as the son of a monarch. As the title was inheritable in male-line, his father was the Duke of Cumberland and Teviotdale from 1878 (when his grandfather died), so as the son of the Duke of Cumberland and Teviotdale, he could be styled as 'prince EA of Cumberland and Teviotdale' (until 1917 when king George V took action by removing lots of privileges from his German relatives) - as well as prince of Hannover; just like for example nowadays William's children can be styled as 'of Wales' and Harry's children as 'of Sussex'.

King George III (1738-1820)
King Ernest Augustus of Hannover, 1st Duke of Cumberland and Teviotdale (1771-1851)
King George V of Hannover, 2nd Duke of Cumberland and Teviotdale (1819-1878)
Crown Prince Ernst August of Hannover, 3rd Duke of Cumberland and Teviotdale (1845-1923)
Prince Ernst August of Hannover (and of Cumberland and Teviotdale), Duke of Brunswick (1887 - 1953).
 
So a male cadet line royal great great grandson of a British monarch?

I understand that he was royal as the son/grandson of Hannoverian kings but I hadn't realised that British royal status passed agnatically to the fourth generation at that time. If his great grandather had not become the king of Hannover (ie if Sussex or Cambridge had been the elder brother) would Ernst not have been styled as the son of a British duke?

I had always understood that (at the time) a British male line gt grandson was a HH/prince (ie Arthur of Connaught) but not that such status could have passed hypothetically to his sons if he'd lived & the rules hadn't been changed in 1917.
 
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Their eldest Son Ernst August IV had a Child out of wetlock Christian von Humbolt . (He was invited at the Wedding of Ernst August V's Son.) He married later Princess Ortrud S H . She is the Mother of Ernst August V who married twice Chantal Hochuli and Caroline of Monaco..
His Son Christian married for the first time in his Family a belgian communor Mireille Dutry . I knew her in the past , even divorced she remain Hannover.
 
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Durham said:
Why was he syled Prince Ernst of Cumberland? He wasn't even a great grandson of a British monarch.
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“Of Cumberland” because his father (who was the son and heir of the last reigning King of Hannover) styled himself as the Duke of Cumberland. The father considered himself to be the de jure King of Hannover, but since the actual kingdom of Hannover was by then in Prussian hands, he called himself by his British title “Duke of Cumberland” to avoid open conflict with the King of Prussia (German Emperor).


“Prince” because, as with most other ex-reigning families in modern Europe, they continued to be treated as royal despite being forced off the throne.

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His great-grandfather was the son of king George III and got the peerage in 1799 as the son of a monarch. As the title was inheritable in male-line, his father was the Duke of Cumberland and Teviotdale from 1878 (when his grandfather died), so as the son of the Duke of Cumberland and Teviotdale, he could be styled as 'prince EA of Cumberland and Teviotdale' (until 1917 when king George V took action by removing lots of privileges from his German relatives) - as well as prince of Hannover; just like for example nowadays William's children can be styled as 'of Wales' and Harry's children as 'of Sussex'.

King George III (1738-1820)
King Ernest Augustus of Hannover, 1st Duke of Cumberland and Teviotdale (1771-1851)
King George V of Hannover, 2nd Duke of Cumberland and Teviotdale (1819-1878)
Crown Prince Ernst August of Hannover, 3rd Duke of Cumberland and Teviotdale (1845-1923)
Prince Ernst August of Hannover (and of Cumberland and Teviotdale), Duke of Brunswick (1887 - 1953).
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Durham said:
So a male cadet line royal great great grandson of a British monarch?

I understand that he was royal as the son/grandson of Hannoverian kings but I hadn't realised that British royal status passed agnatically to the fourth generation at that time. If his great grandather had not become the king of Hannover (ie if Sussex or Cambridge had been the elder brother) would Ernst not have been styled as the son of a British duke?

I had always understood that (at the time) a British male line gt grandson was a HH/prince (ie Arthur of Connaught) but not that such status could have passed hypothetically to his sons if he'd lived & the rules hadn't been changed in 1917.
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The rules on transmission of British princely titles were rather fuzzy before 1917. The preamble of the British letters patent of 1864 implied that all those in line to the British throne were Princes/ses, but that obviously was not strictly followed. In 1914 Prince and Princess Arthur of Connaught had their first child and the Duke and Duchess of Braunschweig had their first child as well, and in both cases the respective parents/grandparents had to ask the British government whether their children were (British) princes or not.

 
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