Prince Andrew Relinquishes Use of Titles & Honours, & Move to Sandringham 17 Oct 2025


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Andrew has left Royal Lodge. The BBC is also reporting it (and they tend to be more reliable than the tabloids)


Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor has moved out of his home in Windsor to the Sandringham Estate in Norfolk, the BBC understands.

The former prince left Royal Lodge on Monday night and is currently living in a temporary property on the Sandringham Estate while his permanent home undergoes renovations.
 
Attention here has, for once, switched away from Andrew, to Lord Mandelson, the former UK ambassador to the US. He has resigned from the Labour Party over allegations that he received $75,000 dollars from Epstein.

He denies it. I've got no idea what is and isn't true, but it does seem as if people are being hung out to dry over unproven allegations.
From the files: Emails from 2009 suggest [Lord] Mandelson forwarded internal government information to Epstein when he was Gordon Brown's business secretary, and that he tried to change government policy on a planned tax on bankers' bonuses following a request from Epstein.

If that's true, it's considerably worse than anything Sarah allegedly did!

This is a man with a degree from Oxford, but evidently no common sense.
Mandelson's case is far more serious because he leaked confidential government information, tried to influence government policy to benefit private individuals, and even suggested that coercion techniques should be applied against British government ministers such as Alistair Darling. Mandelson is entitled to due process of course, but, at first sight, it seems like he is a good candidate for actual jail time.
UNDERPANTS.

Sure, Mandy's facing legal issues, but trotting around in Epstein's Parisian lair in uncool underpants is sort of lame.

I have posted the latest updates on Lord Mandelson in The British Nobility thread 2: Sep 2022 -.
 
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The Eastern Daily Press, a regional newspaper for the area including Norfolk, has reported that staff at Sandringham are refusing to work for AM-W. I will investigate further and post any additional information I can locate.
 
The Eastern Daily Press, a regional newspaper for the area including Norfolk, has reported that staff at Sandringham are refusing to work for AM-W. I will investigate further and post any additional information I can locate.
The Sun had that yesterday: Andrew 'strike' among Sandringham servants as staff reject working for ex-Prince
A source said: “They’ve been told they don’t have to serve Andrew or work for him if they feel uncomfortable.
“There is already quite a list saying no thanks. There is understandably a lot of disquiet as he is now a total pariah.
“But there is also a worry that once he gets comfortable at Wood Farm while Marsh Farm is being finished, they will never get him out again.”
 
I still don't understand why he has to go to Marsh Farm while Wood Farm apparently is available.
 
I still don't understand why he has to go to Marsh Farm while Wood Farm apparently is available.
My understanding is Wood Farm is being modernized and remodeled, so it's not ready yet. And apparently Andrew was kicked out earlier than was originally planned from Royal Lodge.
 
My understanding is Wood Farm is being modernized and remodeled, so it's not ready yet. And apparently Andrew was kicked out earlier than was originally planned from Royal Lodge.
But he is currently staying at Wood Farm - which is where his father mostly lived after his retirement from public service.
 
But he is currently staying at Wood Farm - which is where his father mostly lived after his retirement from public service.
Sorry, whatever Farm he's supposed to move to isn't ready yet. Maybe the king doesn't want him living there permanently for any number of reasons.
 
But he is currently staying at Wood Farm - which is where his father mostly lived after his retirement from public service.
Yes, he wanted to go to Wood Farm - agree they may have trouble kicking him out.
 
But he is currently staying at Wood Farm - which is where his father mostly lived after his retirement from public service.
On her Substack, Tina Brown wrote that the King like to stay at Wood Farm if he goes to Sandringham but doesn’t want to open up the big house. If she’s correct, that would explain why Andrew is going elsewhere.
 
On her Substack, Tina Brown wrote that the King like to stay at Wood Farm if he goes to Sandringham but doesn’t want to open up the big house. If she’s correct, that would explain why Andrew is going elsewhere.

Correct! When Charles and Camilla want a few days in Norfolk, Wood Farm is often used; The papers {including the better ones] have often noted that the couple are at Wood Farm; it saves opening 'The Big House' which they tend to do only for Christmas and large shoots etc. It's the same when Charles and Camilla go to Balmoral; they tend not to say in the castle itself, but nearby Birkhall.

Occasionally there are claims in the press that Charles will change his residences to Wood Farm when in Norfolk and Birkhall when in Scotland and then open Sandringham and Balmoral to the paying public all year round. It sounds plausible, but I have never heard any formal announcement to this effect. Similarly, the papers occasionally say that Charles will not move back into Buckingham Palace when the renovations have been completed, but will remain at Clarence House. Who knows if this is true?

To deal with a couple of other matters raised above: here is a photo from the BBC showing the relative positions of Sandringham, Wood Farm and Marsh Farm.


I should imagine that because Wood Farm used to be the base of Prince Phillip and even the Queen when she joined her husband, I would expect it would have been furnished to a high standard and I don't think that Charles would like Andrew there. Apart from the way is had been furnished, I think that it would be somewhat 'jarring' to have the unpleasant Andrew living in the same place that housed HLM and Prince Philip, both regarded as honourable.

By the way Marsh Farm is larger than people have been led to believe - it has 5 bedrooms. And I think Andrew is very fortunate to be given ANY sort dwelling. We (or most of us) all have to find somewhere to live!

To the people who have asked about how Andrew (now title-less) will be addressed by any staff unfortunate enough to have to work for him, I would imagine that he will be addressed like (say) Peter Phillips is on family occasions and royal shoots etc: 'Sir'.
 
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Andrew is staying at Wood Farm probably until April , the date when Marsh Farm will be ready to accommodate him.
"It is understood Andrew is living temporarily at Wood Farm, a secluded property near the village of Wolferton, which his father, the late Duke of Edinburgh, chose as his primary home when he retired from public life in 2017"
 
Correct! When Charles and Camilla want a few days in Norfolk, Wood Farm is often used; The papers {including the better ones] have often noted that the couple are at Wood Farm; it saves opening 'The Big House' which they tend to do only for Christmas and large shoots etc. It's the same when Charles and Camilla go to Balmoral; they tend not to say in the castle itself, but nearby Birkhall.

Occasionally there are claims in the press that Charles will change his residences to Wood Farm when in Norfolk and Birkhall when in Scotland and then open Sandringham and Balmoral to the paying public all year round. It sounds plausible, but I have never heard any formal announcement to this effect. Similarly, the papers occasionally say that Charles will not move back into Buckingham Palace when the renovations have been completed, but will remain at Clarence House. Who knows if this is true?

To deal with a couple of other matters raised above: here is a photo from the BBC showing the relative positions of Sandringham, Wood Farm and Marsh Farm.


I should imagine that because Wood Farm used to be the base of Prince Phillip and even the Queen when she joined her husband, I would expect it would have been furnished to a high standard and I don't think that Charles would like Andrew there. Apart from the way is had been furnished, I think that it would be somewhat 'jarring' to have the unpleasant Andrew living in the same place that housed HLM and Prince Philip, both regarded as honourable.

By the way Marsh Farm is larger than people have been led to believe - it has 5 bedrooms. And I think Andrew is very fortunate to be given ANY sort dwelling. We (or most of us) all have to find somewhere to live!
Andrew also has a reputation of leaving his homes rather trashed upon moving out. I’d imagine Charles doesn’t want this to happen to Wood Farm as well. I’ve said this previously, but I hope the furnishings, fixtures, cabinetry, and decor going into Marsh Farm are relatively inexpensive stock items that are serviceable, but can be easily replaced. Let Andrew live with lamps from Amazon and IKEA furniture if he’s going to be a slob.
 
Andrew also has a reputation of leaving his homes rather trashed upon moving out. I’d imagine Charles doesn’t want this to happen to Wood Farm as well. I’ve said this previously, but I hope the furnishings, fixtures, cabinetry, and decor going into Marsh Farm are relatively inexpensive stock items that are serviceable, but can be easily replaced. Let Andrew live with lamps from Amazon and IKEA furniture if he’s going to be a slob.

Every time I went to the Royal Chapel of All Saints [the church opposite Royal Lodge] I used to notice how the exterior of Royal Lodge was in very poor condition, which I have mentioned elsewhere on this forum. That's why I was surprised when forum members thought that Andrew M-W would be entitled to remain in Royal Lodge [and compensation if he moved out] because to me [and anybody else who took a surreptitious look at the property] it was clear that he had breached the requirement to keep it in good repair. I just remain bemused as to why the royal family and/or the Crown Estate were not stricter with AM-W.....
 
Andrew also has a reputation of leaving his homes rather trashed upon moving out. I’d imagine Charles doesn’t want this to happen to Wood Farm as well. I’ve said this previously, but I hope the furnishings, fixtures, cabinetry, and decor going into Marsh Farm are relatively inexpensive stock items that are serviceable, but can be easily replaced. Let Andrew live with lamps from Amazon and IKEA furniture if he’s going to be a slob.
Again, going back to Tina Brown’s Substack, she said Prince Philip had Wood Farm decorated in quite a spartan, naval style. When King Charles moved in he brought over some antiques from the house in Wales that the Duchy of Cornwall had owned.

I only hope the King moved his antiques into storage before Andrew arrived at Wood Farm.
 
Wood Farm is indeed often used by the RF when they don't want to use the "Big House" at Sandringham so Andrew being accommodated there would mean either the King living at times in close quarters to his brother or that the King & RF have no place to stay other than in the "Big House".
I understand Wood Farm was / is often used for shooting parties as well as it is close to the areas where they go pheasant shooting. I think it is probably quite a bit bigger than people think, even if just downstairs.
I think ultimately Wood Farm is seen as Charles' home or certainly "the family's" home so Andrew moving in was probably never something really ever considered.
Here is a view of Wood Farm that shows it is bigger than most think
 
Is there anything to stop William, when he is King, from kicking Andrew out of his new Sandringham home?
 
It wouldn’t look so well optically if Andrew was kicked out in say twenty years, as an old man, unless he did something more completely inexcusably reprehensible.

I imagine that Andrew’s new home, wherever it might be,( and I’m not convinced that will necessarily be Norfolk in years to come) and his future income, will be set up under an ironclad contract. If so, should Andrew step an inch out of line in future years, he will be banished to a cottage in the north of Scotland with a keeper, and that will be that!
 
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If Andrew does go to prison for a long sentence, will Charles be willing to let him keep his house empty?
 
Well, as Charles was going to be looking after the upkeep on the house and not charging Andrew rent anyway it would make no difference whether Andrew is residing in it or not in many ways. But if he were to get a long prison term, it would potentially call for a rethink I suppose. But that is a long way off at the moment.
 
Andrew has handed back the order of St. olaf he received from Norway in 1988, says the Norwegian palace:

OSLO, Feb 19 (Reuters) - King Charles' younger brother Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor has given back a royal Norwegian order that the former prince received almost four decades ago, Norway's palace said on Thursday.
The Order of St. Olav, Norway's most prestigious peacetime award, recognises distinguished service by its recipients, and was bestowed on then-Prince Andrew in 1988.


Article HERE.
 
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