I kinda doubt that Beatrice and Eugenie were completely unaware and uninvolved in their parents dodgyness. But we must also not cast guilt by association. I think that a lot of journalistic work in the future will focus on the connection of the york princesses with the scandals of their father. This saga won't stop anytime soon, unfortunately.
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Re Beatrice and Eugenie I can forgive them any associates they may have met pre Epstein's past and Andrew's involvement / reliance upon him being revealed but since then they would have to be extremely *naïve* (choosing kindest way to put it) to openly and happily meet with anyone their father or mother suggests or arranged for them to do so after that.
People like S and A have long histories of financial affairs , gifts, and favors from wealthy acquaintances. They probably labled it as “hospitality” or “support.” If the York girls grew up in that environment, they may have learned to treat gifts like that as routine gestures. It’s not normal for us, but it is to them.
That said, it’s likely a mix of both:being raised in an environment where S and A regularly received gifts and learning not to question the money that came their way, and
greedily taking it, taking that lavish life too far. I hope that habit is honestly kicked.
But even Kate has received controversial gifts, such as the diamond and ruby floral-fringe necklace from Alain Mouwad, whose donor was never publicly identified. The Queen received two necklaces from the Emir of Qatar worth $2 mil, goodness knows more stuff that makes one side eye them, least make you think tone deaf.
Charles has received even more questionable cash from things like his cash to honors controversy; the beloved Sophie also received controversial jewelry sets and gifts from Bahrain and that was seen as tone-deaf to accept them. Theyof course, were criticized for accepting gifts as working royals.
Whether we like those things or not, things like that are always happening.
Not saying it’s right — just common — and it’s more commonplace for the receiver not to question them and have others deal with things, and everyone from favorites has done this. It’s a bigger issue than the York gals and their parents .Yes the royal family have set of rules with gifts but clearly they don’t often follow it.
I find it interesting that AL is dragging the York gals specifically.
Epstein's past and Andrew's involvement / reliance upon him being revealed but since then they would have to be extremely *naïve* (choosing kindest way to put it) to openly and happily meet with anyone their father or mother suggests or arranged for them to do so after that.
I still blame F and S for any of their involvements with people like Jeff. They were maybe 10 when allegedly got to know people like him, a predator/trAfficker, A and fergie needed to be bankrolled, allegedly.
They made a caring bond grow with a predator, close enough that fergie allegedly took their daughters to his prison release party. Close enough where his girls may have cried over a predator’s death due to a bond their parents allowed growing up.
I shudder to think what other people the York gals came into contact with growing up.
Honestly A and S deserve what’s happening to them, because having stuff like a peerage put in a box where they can’t touch it is like the biggest ego burst to people like them.
I would hope that the King or the Wales invite Beatrice and Eugenie to some type of public event as a sign that they are still within the emotional support circle of the royal family.
I am more concerned about B&E than anyone else.
They do go to Charles events unofficially, like elephant family, etc. Working more behind the scenes the scenes it seems, if it counts for something some of the press writes that C and W are trying to to protect them the best the can, I tend to believe that.
Me too,I’m sure they had to learn to be strong throughout the Years of their parents ‘misgivings .”
I think it is starting to impact Princesses Beatrice and Eugenie Erin9.
Andrew Lownie … who is actually an historian and not just an author or journalist … has been doing the podcast circuit I think, I seem to have seen a lot of him on different social media sites lately.
One I saw yesterday had him telling about the immense pressure applied to the National Ballet to use Eugenie’s business for a series of auction events.
Also, that one of the daughter’s MBA was requested for free by way of Andrew becoming that college’s patron.
Mr Lownie isn’t saying this is coming from the daughters themselves, but he is pointing out that they too have made money … private/ personal money … from their Royal titles and positions.
I think as more of the general public hear of different things, the whole set-up will come across as shabbier and shabbier and will taint them in people’s eyes.
He has an axe to grind with the girls too. Honestly his work comes off as more gossipy.
Lownie: Well, I'm afraid I'm one of the commentators who doesn't feel for the girls too much. I mean, I know quite a lot about them and their involvement in what their parents were up to. And so I'm afraid I don't have a great deal of sympathy for them.
Interviewer: Do you think that they've inherited some of the traits of their parents?
Lownie: I'm afraid so.