Prince Andrew Relinquishes Use of Titles & Honours, & Move to Sandringham 17 Oct 2025

[Marengo]

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Move to Sandringham

Commencing 17 October 2025


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[tommy100]

Andrew's statement:

"In discussion with The King, and my immediate and wider family, we have concluded the continued accusations about me distract from the work of His Majesty and the Royal Family. I have decided, as I always have, to put my duty to my family and country first. I stand by my decision five years ago to stand back from public life.

"With His Majesty's agreement, we feel I must now go a step further. I will therefore no longer use my title or the honours which have been conferred upon me. As I have said previously, I vigorously deny the accusations against me."

 

[Blog Real]

Huge momentum of coverage saying Andrew will “give up” Duke of York title- Telegraph, DM, Sun etc all reporting its “imminent”. Either something has been agreed or its a coordinated strategy to make Andrew feel ultimate pressure to do so.
From telegraph:

Prince Andrew agrees to give up Duke of York title

archived 17 Oct 2025 17:33:01 UTC

archive.ph

I am shocked by this news. I believe Prince Andrew must have been pressured by the King.
Still, I don't think he needed to renounce the Order of the Garter.

It's perhaps the best decision. Andrew needs to resolve all his issues before participating in BRF events again.

 

[tihkon2]

It's perhaps the best decision. Andrew needs to resolve all his issues before participating in BRF events again.

I don't think he'll participate publicly ever again. Except at weddings or funerals.

 

[tommy100]

I am surprised how quickly it happened, last week we were talking about him no longer being allowed to hunt on royal land, now he is having all but his born title removed. I wonder if some new information involving Epstein is about to come out or what other means of pressure Charles was able to put on Andrew to make it happen.

 

[victor1319]

But he is still a Prince, right? I mean it is not only his birthright, but his birthplace into society, so to say...

 

[Marengo]

I think no titles have been removed, he will simply not use these titles. He still is Duke of York.

We can be grateful that his late mother is not here to witness his utter disgrace.

After reading the Lownie book one can only conclude he has been utterly debauched for decades, it was facilitated by the court. Diplomats were reduced to his pimps. It is quite shocking how far people went to please him. It is good the palace is taking some steeps to remove him from the public eye further.

 

[Duke of Marmalade]

Still denying... even though there's photos and letters.
Good move from Charles.
I guess he's The Prince Andrew now? He was born a Prince, that will remain.
Or only Andrew Mountbatten?

 

[tommy100]

He is still "Prince" so The Prince Andrew is correct I guess, the statement was titled "a statement by Prince Andrew". It is the title he was born with - Prince - so in that sense everything else he was awarded since he was born has been given up (in whatever technical way). I am amazed Charles secured both the Duke of York title and Garter. I would have assumed Andrew would have caved to one only and insisted on the other.

 

[EllieCat]

Wow, didn't see that one coming. But i believe it is a sensible decision.

So he will just be Prince Andrew, nothing else.

And what about Sarah, Duchess of York? Since the daughters are both married and don't use 'of York' anymore, she, in theory, will be the only one left using 'of York'. I suspect that will be nipped in the bud.

 

[wbenson]

Another confusing permutation of have-but-don't-use.

 

[GondorHasNoPants]

And what about Sarah, Duchess of York? Since the daughters are both married and don't use 'of York' anymore, she, in theory, will be the only one left using 'of York'. I suspect that will be nipped in the bud.

She has agreed to stop using the style of Duchess of York. She will be merely Sarah Ferguson now.

This is the part of the announcement I approve of the most. She has been hanging on and exploiting her title for far too long.

 

[HRHHermione]

Wow, didn't see that one coming. But i believe it is a sensible decision.

So he will just be Prince Andrew, nothing else.

And what about Sarah, Duchess of York? Since the daughters are both married and don't use 'of York' anymore, she, in theory, will be the only one left using 'of York'. I suspect that will be nipped in the bud.

The statement said she will just be known as Sarah Ferguson now which is certainly for the best.

 

[Moonmaiden23]

I thought it would be the other way around. The KG is a title of honour and nobility. I could see Andrew relinquishing it.

But wasn't the Dukedom of York a wedding gift from her late Majesty? I thought he would fight tooth and nail to keep it.

This will also impact Beatrice and Eugenie. They can no longer be called HRH "of York" ?

 

[Alison H]

He remains Prince Andrew, but he will no longer be the Duke of York.

Sarah will no longer use the title of Duchess of York, according to the media here.

From the BBC:

Prince Andrew's loss of the use of his titles is taking immediate effect.

It's also confirmed that he won't be spending Christmas with the Royal Family in Sandringham.

But he is still expected to stay in his Windsor home, Royal Lodge, on which he has his own private lease which runs until 2078.

He will remain a prince, a title he has had from birth as the son of the late Queen Elizabeth II.

TBH, he could change his name to Andrew Bloggs and the media'd still be going after him. But hopefully they'll at least stop criticising the King for not taking away his titles.

Prince Andrew's decision to stop using his titles was made in consultation with Prince William as well as the King.
This does not surprise me!

"In discussion with The King, and my immediate and wider family, we have concluded the continued accusations about me distract from the work of His Majesty and the Royal Family. I have decided, as I always have, to put my duty to my family and country first. I stand by my decision five years ago to stand back from public life.

"With His Majesty's agreement, we feel I must now go a step further. I will therefore no longer use my title or the honours which have been conferred upon me. As I have said previously, I vigorously deny the accusations against me."

Hmm. I'm not sure that everyone would entirely agree with the contents of the first paragraph.

 

[suztav]

Wow!!!!!

 

[ladongas]

What effect does this have on the line of succession?

 

[Erin9]

What effect does this have on the line of succession?

None.

 

[PrincessOfGeorgetown]

It all feels like royal political PR spin. He isn't giving up his Titles. He just isn't using them AKA not using them publicly. As the private person he has been since he pulled back from public duties, there would had been no real place or time for him to actually use them publicly anyway. So nothing really changes.

Without a doubt, the staff at Royal Lodge will still call him Duke of York. His friends will still call him Duke of York.

 

[Erin9]

He remains Prince Andrew, but he will no longer be the Duke of York.

Sarah will no longer use the title of Duchess of York, according to the media here.

From the BBC:

Prince Andrew's loss of the use of his titles is taking immediate effect.

It's also confirmed that he won't be spending Christmas with the Royal Family in Sandringham.

But he is still expected to stay in his Windsor home, Royal Lodge, on which he has his own private lease which runs until 2078.

He will remain a prince, a title he has had from birth as the son of the late Queen Elizabeth II.

TBH, he could change his name to Andrew Bloggs and the media'd still be going after him. But hopefully they'll at least stop criticising the King for not taking away his titles.

Prince Andrew's decision to stop using his titles was made in consultation with Prince William as well as the King.
This does not surprise me!

"In discussion with The King, and my immediate and wider family, we have concluded the continued accusations about me distract from the work of His Majesty and the Royal Family. I have decided, as I always have, to put my duty to my family and country first. I stand by my decision five years ago to stand back from public life.

"With His Majesty's agreement, we feel I must now go a step further. I will therefore no longer use my title or the honours which have been conferred upon me. As I have said previously, I vigorously deny the accusations against me."

Hmm. I'm not sure that everyone would entirely agree with the contents of the first paragraph.

There are still people unhappy that he wasn’t formally stripped of everything. Not using isn’t good enough for some.

Honestly- though- I think some people won’t think anyone has done enough until he’s been rendered homeless, broke, in prison, formally stripped of literally everything ….etc. IOW- nothing will probably ever be good enough to stop some complaints.

I agree- plenty of people would probably disagree with the first paragraph.

I’m not surprised William was involved either. He should be.

I do think this was a wise decision in light of the never ending Epstein coverage. And it does seem like it will never end.

 

[EllieCat]

I see the Royal website is as usual lagging behind...

The Role of The Royal Family

www.royal.uk

 

[PrincessOfGeorgetown]

I thought it would be the other way around. The KG is a title of honour and nobility. I could see Andrew relinquishing it.

But wasn't the Dukedom of York a wedding gift from her late Majesty? I thought he would fight tooth and nail to keep it.

This will also impact Beatrice and Eugenie. They can no longer be called HRH "of York" ?

They haven't been "of York" really since they've been married, even though we've seen the palace still refer to them as such. They are Princess Beatrice, Mrs Mapelli Mozzi and Princess Eugenie, Mrs Brooksbank. Separately, they are HRH Princess in their own right as grandchildren of a monarch, children of a monarch's son.

 

[CrownPrincessJava]

They haven't been "of York" really since they've been married, even though we've seen the palace still refer to them as such. They are Princess Beatrice, Mrs Mapelli Mozzi and Princess Eugenie, Mrs Brooksbank. Separately, they are HRH Princess in their own right as grandchildren of a monarch, children of a monarch's son.

And the only time I have ever seen them referred to as "of York" is in the media.

 

[Hans-Rickard]

I thought it would be the other way around. The KG is a title of honour and nobility. I could see Andrew relinquishing it.

But wasn't the Dukedom of York a wedding gift from her late Majesty? I thought he would fight tooth and nail to keep it.

This will also impact Beatrice and Eugenie. They can no longer be called HRH "of York" ?

As i understood it he is still The Duke of York. He has just agreed to not use the title. Behind the walls of his home i’m pretty sure he still demands his staff to adress him as such..

Didn’t Beatrice and Eugenie stop using the ”of York” part after their weddings ? In the court circular they have been ”Princess Beatrice Mrs Edoardo Mapelli-Mozzi” and ”Princess Eugenie Mrs Jack Brooksbank” since then..

 

[ACO]

That was a very carefully written statement. It makes zero mention of the titles being removed. He very much still has them. He just not going to publicly use them. Very different things.

 

[Mirabel]

I'm surprised; I thought Andrew would stand his ground no matter what. I wonder if Charles gave him an ultimatum: the titles or the Royal Lodge?

 

[Moonmaiden23]

There are still people unhappy that he wasn’t formally stripped of everything. Not using isn’t good enough for some.

Honestly- though- I think some people won’t think anyone has done enough until he’s been rendered homeless, broke, in prison, formally stripped of literally anything….etc. IOW- nothing will probably ever be good enough to stop some complaints.

I agree- plenty of people would probably disagree with the first paragraph.

I’m not surprised William was involved either. He should be.

I do think this was a wise decision in light of the never ending Epstein coverage. And it does seem like it will never end.

No it won't end. The next time something drops from Giuffre's diary, another public and online howl for another pound of flesh will arise.

I am baffled at William's opprobrium against his uncle who seemed to dote on him as a child and who his late mother was very fond of. What gives?

It's unfortunate that Andrew is being humbled this way late in life. If only someone....ANYONE..had brought him to heel in his twenties at the height of his popularity after the Falklands War.

 

[RoyalNight]

Do I understand correctly that the titles and honors still remain but he won’t simply just use them? If so I don’t really see the point, especially since he’s no longer representing the crown and has no official role to use the titles.

 

[PrincessOfGeorgetown]

That was a very carefully written statement. It makes zero mention of the titles being removed. He very much still has them. He just not going to publicly use them. Very different things.

Which, for a person who has no public role and pulled back from public life years ago, is really not much of a change at all. He has been holed up in Royal Lodge and the Windsor estate where he will continue to be called Duke of York.

But bravo to the PR hands at Buckingham Palace who have gotten the headlines they've wanted here and news stories from here on out, when referring to Andrew and Epstein, can say that he gave them up. He didn't.

 

[EllieCat]

I think this is an excellent outcome, not using the title and honours. After all, he has never been been convicted of anything in a Court of Law, only in the court of public opinion. If he had been convicted in a Court of Law, then yes his title should be stripped. But he has not. After all, everyone is presumed innocent until found guilty, it's a bedrock of western civilisation. And all he is really guilty of (that we know of)f is extremely bad choices in friends and deeds. And unfortunately he doesn't come over as having a charming personality which might have swayed public opinion. My own opinion is that he is pompous and boring every time I have seen him speak on tv, like when Windsor Castle burned, (i did not see the interview that led to this).