Prince Andrew and His Alleged Relationship with a Chinese Agent

[sophie25]

Yet somehow it wasn't enough; Andrew has always wanted more.
Charles once said of Andrew: He's always wanted to be me.

Despite that, Andrew never turned on his family.

But why would he turn on them, he always loved being royal.

 

[Mirabel]

But why would he turn on them, he always loved being royal.

BUT -- Andrew wasn't the TOP royal, and he resented that. It was no secret that he minded being the 'Spare;' when he felt he was more popular than his brother.
However, he didn't lash out against his family.

 

[sophie25]

BUT -- Andrew wasn't the TOP royal, and he resented that. It was no secret that he minded being the 'Spare;' when he felt he was more popular than his brother.
However, he didn't lash out against his family.

Well that wouldn't be an excuse to lash out at your family anyway, only one person can ever be heir.

 

[Mirabel]

Well that wouldn't be an excuse to lash out at your family anyway, only one person can ever be heir.

You are absolutely right.

 

[Hallo girl]

I find it quite interesting that Andrew has been slated and ostracised for his friendship with this person but currently or Chancellor, the first woman , if you didn't already know, is currently in China asking ,no pleading, for business deals as we are currently going down the swanee..

 

[Curryong]

Yes but Andrew, for much of his time as Trade Ambassador was wheeling and dealing to fill his own pockets. The Starmer Govt has its faults but no Minister is doing what Andrew successfully did under cover for decades with Chinese, Middle Eastern oligarchs and US businessmen.

 

[Hallo girl]

Yes but Andrew, for much of his time as Trade Ambassador was wheeling and dealing to fill his own pockets. The Starmer Govt has its faults but no Minister is doing what Andrew successfully did under cover for decades with Chinese, Middle Eastern oligarchs and US businessmen.

You have evidence of these wheelings and dealings?

 

[Curryong]

British broadsheets tried for decades under FOI legislation to uncover where exactly Andrew’s sources of income (separate to his allowance from his mother, naval pension etc,) but were always blocked. There have been numerous articles about such things for decades. And it was well known Andrew was close to oligarchs, the son of one of whom bought his old marital home for a grossly inflated price.

And there is this salubrious account from last year, to do with money being handed over to the Yorks by a corrupt financier..

Prince Andrew and Sarah Ferguson received £1m from 'corrupt' financier

The Duke of York, along with his the Duchess of York and their daughters, received about £1.4million from former Goldman Sachs banker Selman Turk.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Also

Britain's Prince Andrew Under Fire Over The Company He Keeps

British Prince Andrew's friendship with a billionaire American sex offender and links to some of the former Soviet bloc's most oppressive regimes land him in hot water just as the royal family gets set for a fairy-tale wedding.

www.rferl.org

 

[Hallo girl]

I am asking for evidence not tittle tattle, one of these links is to the Daily mail...how surprising.

 

[Curryong]

The DM is not, as are so many of the broadsheets, behind a paywall. One of those links I posted referred to evidence from a current court case of the time in which the Yorks received a great deal of money.

And Andrew’s links with oligarchs have been known for years. If Andrew is so sparkling clean and above board in everything then those broadsheets vainly pursued a long and expensive case trying to get to the truth about his sources of income for nothing. I do not however believe Andrew to be as innocent as a new born babe in all his financial dealings, so we will have to agree to disagree.

 

[An Ard Ri]

As per the BBC ,further documents about the relationship between Prince Andrew and an alleged Chinese agent are to be released today.
Prince Andrew and alleged Chinese spy Yang Tengbo prepare for more court disclosures

 

[Tatiana Maria]

Prince Andrew demanded briefing from MI5 over Chinese ‘spy’

Duke of York was due to meet agency boss Sir Ken McCallum to address security concerns but appointment was cancelled at last minute

www.telegraph.co.uk

Prince Andrew asked to speak to Sir Ken McCallum in an attempt to learn more about the security concerns surrounding Yang Tengbo, his close confidant.
Yang, who denies he is a Chinese spy, was banned from the UK after an investigation by MI5.
[...]
It is understood Sir Ken withdrew the meeting after Rishi Sunak called a surprise general election that required his full attention. The appointment was not rearranged and the two men never met.
The Duke was kept in the dark about Yang despite, it is understood, having the highest security clearance even after stepping back as a working royal.
[...]
The Telegraph can also disclose that Sir Ken did hold a briefing with Sir Edward Young, the late Queen’s private secretary, at the height of the investigation into Yang. At that meeting, held at Buckingham Palace in December 2021, Sir Ken laid out his agency’s concerns over Prince Andrew’s burgeoning friendship with Yang.
[...]
It is understood the Duke was never formally advised by the security services or Buckingham Palace to sever contact with Yang.
[...]
After the meeting between Sir Ken and Sir Edward at Buckingham Palace, the late Queen’s private secretary summoned Mr [Dominic] Hampshire [the Duke’s then senior adviser and a business partner of Yang] for a briefing.
While he was unable to repeat what he had been told about Yang, Sir Edward is said to have given a clear signal that the Duke’s ongoing relationship with his Chinese confidant was untenable.
Despite this, Mr Hampshire ploughed on with efforts to launch the Eurasia Fund – an investment vehicle reliant on Chinese money that was intended to provide an income for the Duke.
[...]
On Friday, Buckingham Palace said the King had no knowledge of his brother’s dealings with Yang, who they said was never directly mentioned at those Windsor meetings [between the King and the Duke of York].
The Eurasia Fund never got off the ground as it was unable to secure Chinese funding.
[...]
[Mr Hampshire] said: “For the record, as soon as The Duke of York was advised to cease all contact with Mr Yang, he fully complied. He did not receive a penny in funding or support, directly or indirectly, from any Chinese individual or entity. [...]
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Given that Queen Elizabeth II's private secretary took the trouble to personally warn the Duke of York's adviser and business partner "that the Duke’s ongoing relationship with his Chinese confidant was untenable", surely the Queen or someone close to her would also have told the same to the Duke himself, even if was not "formal advice" (whatever that means in the context of a royal family)?

 

[RabbitRabbit]

BUT -- Andrew wasn't the TOP royal, and he resented that. It was no secret that he minded being the 'Spare;' when he felt he was more popular than his brother.
However, he didn't lash out against his family.

This is true apparently and has been the case at least since his marriage. Before that he was a bit more easy to deal with but something wasn't right with him even when growing up and people around the royal household saw it. Diana remebered it later, she grew up at Park Lodge, Sandringham seeing the Royal children sometimes. He used to spend a lot of time watching tv alone and I heard tried to beat up a game keeper of staff memebr at Balmoral along the lines of later being out of line (physical) with his male police handlers. Charles and Edward can be a bit angry like anyone at times but nothing like that. Something isn't ok anyway he is very, very different in many of his behvaiours than the Queens other three children.

He's been very protected which is the Royal Families choice to do and other families may have done the same. I don't know if they have really thought about the long term impact of this and four of the Yorks have a past behaviours (some in public domain, other still not) that are difficult for a Royal Family to not be damaged by. I think by being a soft touch for them, and letting Fergir and co. stay around using the connection, the Windsors have made things harder in the long run for themselves.

 

[An Ard Ri]

New documents reveal that MI5 allegedly intervened to warn against Andrew having contact with the alleged spy!
Prince Andrew: Secret papers reveal new details about links to 'Chinese spy' Yang Tengbo

Its also alledged that the Duke of York also sent letters directly to China’s President on his birthday
Prince Andrew wrote birthday letters to Xi Jinping, ex-adviser told court