Origin Of Royal Names

[Countessmeout]

Who is Margaret's uncle here? I take it you mean David Bowes Lyon? Agree that the name David was probaby given to young David AJ because of his maternal uncle, not David Duke of Windsor..or due to its being a Welsih name

Sorry I edited my post just before posting it. Originally did say Sir David Bowes-Lyon. Didn't realise I took it out.

 

[Denville]

Sorry I edited my post just before posting it. Originally did say Sir David Bowes-Lyon. Didn't realise I took it out.

Thanks, I see. I know that David BL was the queen Mother's favourite brother, did not realise that he had died soon before Marg's son was born, so I think its obvious that the name was given to the baby to remember DBL

 

[Linda_26]

Philippe and Mathilde's children:

Princess Elisabeth: Elisabeth: Great-great grandmother Queen Elisabeth of the Belgians as well as possibly her aunt Elisabeth d'Udekem d'Acoz. Therese: Family name from her mother's side. Marie: Traditional family name. Helene: Aunt and godparent Helene d'Udekem d'Acoz.

Prince Gabriel: Gabriel: His parents liked the name. Baudouin: Great-uncle King Baudouin. Charles: uncle and godparent: Charles d'Udekem d'Acoz. Marie: Traditional family name.

Prince Emmanuel: Emmanuel: His parents liked the name. Leopold: Great-grandfather King Leopold III of the Belgians. Guillaume: Godparent Hereditary Grand Duke Guillaume. Francois: Not sure. Marie: Traditional family name.

Princess Eleonore: Eleonore: Her parents liked the name. Fabiola: Great-aunt Queen Fabiola. Victoria: godparent Crown Princess Victoria. Anne: Grandmother Countess Anna Maria. Marie: Traditional family name.

Mathilde's father and brothers have Francois Xavier in their name. Seems Emmanuel having it is a nod to his grandfather and great uncles.

That could be, but I think the most likely explanation is that Emmanuel was born on 4 October, the feast day of Saint Francis (François in French) of Assisi

 

[IloveCP]

The children of King Frederik X and Queen Mary:

Crown Prince Christian:

Christian: It is a tradition for the King of Denmark to be named either Christian or Frederik.
Valdemar: Traditional name in the Danish royal family.
Henri: Honors his grandfather Prince Henrik.
John: Honors his grandfather John Donaldson.

Princess Isabella:

Isabella: Her parents liked the name.
Henrietta: Honors her grandmother Henrietta Donaldson.
Ingrid: Honors her great-grandmother Queen Ingrid.
Margrethe: Honors her grandmother Queen Margrethe II.

Prince Vincent:

Vincent: His parents liked the name.
Frederik: Honors his father and great-grandfather King Frederik IX. It is also a traditional name in the Danish royal family.
Minik: It is a Greenlandic name as Greenland is officially an autonomous country within the Kingdom of Denmark.
Alexander: Possibly honors one of Queen Mary’s relatives.

Princess Josephine:

Josephine: Possibly named after her godmother Josephine Rechner.
Sophia: Possibly honors several Danish Queens.
Ivalo: It is a Greenlandic name as Greenland is officially an autonomous country within the Kingdom of Denmark.
Mathilda: Possibly honors one of Queen Mary’s relatives.

 

[Curryong]

With reference to Prss Josephine, as well as her parents liking the name could she have been named after her godmother?

• Josephine, a popular Danish name (normally spelled Josefine) meaning "Jehovah increases" shared with her godmother, Josephine Rechner and her ancestress Josephine of Leuchtenberg.
• From Wiki.

 

[IloveCP]

With reference to Prss Josephine, as well as her parents liking the name could she have been named after her godmother?

• Josephine, a popular Danish name (normally spelled Josefine) meaning "Jehovah increases" shared with her godmother, Josephine Rechner and her ancestress Josephine of Leuchtenberg.
• From Wiki.

Yes that is definitely a possibility. I already edited the post.

 

[CyrilVladisla]

Archduchess Gregoria Maximiliana (1581-1597) was the daughter of Archduke Charles of Inner Austria.
Her godfather was Pope Gregory XIII. Her godmother was Princess Maximiliana Maria of Bavaria.
The Archduchess was named after her godfather and her godmother.

 

[Queen Claude]

Things I find interesting about British Royal Family names:

George - from the German Hanovers, the anglicized version of Georg. It is interesting to me that George entered the BRF by way of the Hanovers since George is the Patron Saint of England. I can't rule out that George is a middle name of a previous British royal or the first name of a not well known royal.

Louis - I find this interesting because George I was born Georg Ludvig and then was re-named George Louis in Great Britain, so the anglicized version of Ludvig sounds very French to me.

Victoria - I think that most modern royals named Victoria / Viktoria link back to Queen Victoria or one of her descendants. Victoria was named Alexandrina Victoria at birth, Victoria comes from her German princess mother who, if I am understanding correctly, went by Princess Victoire but when she married into the BRF her name was anglicized to Victoria.

 

[LauraS3514]

Things I find interesting about British Royal Family names:

George - from the German Hanovers, the anglicized version of Georg. It is interesting to me that George entered the BRF by way of the Hanovers since George is the Patron Saint of England. I can't rule out that George is a middle name of a previous British royal or the first name of a not well known royal.

Louis - I find this interesting because George I was born Georg Ludvig and then was re-named George Louis in Great Britain, so the anglicized version of Ludvig sounds very French to me.

Victoria - I think that most modern royals named Victoria / Viktoria link back to Queen Victoria or one of her descendants. Victoria was named Alexandrina Victoria at birth, Victoria comes from her German princess mother who, if I am understanding correctly, went by Princess Victoire but when she married into the BRF her name was anglicized to Victoria.

There were earlier "Georges" in England - George Duke of Clarence, the middle brother of Edward IV and Richard III, and Edward IV had a son named George who died young.

 

[Curryong]

Yes St George of the Dragon fame became the patron saint of England after St Edward the Confessor had faded a little and the Crusades were occurring. George is always said to have come in with the Hanoverians but although the name was popular then, that’s not strictly true.

 

[Queen Claude]

There were earlier "Georges" in England - George Duke of Clarence, the middle brother of Edward IV and Richard III, and Edward IV had a son named George who died young.

Thanks. I did not realize that the Duke of Clarence from the War of the Roses was named George.

 

[Meraude]

Prince Charles of Luxembourg:

Charles: possibly after his great-grandmother Grand Duchess Josephine-Charlotte and great-great grandmother Grand Duchess Charlotte.

Jean: great-grandfather Grand Duke Jean

Philippe: grandfather Count Phillippe de Lannoy

Joseph : great-grandfather Jose Antonio Mestre y Álvarez

Marie: Traditional family name

Guillaume: honors his father

Prince Charles of Luxembourg may have been named after:
Charles II was Duke of Luxembourg from June 15, 1467 to January 5, 1477.

Grand Duchess Joséphine-Charlotte seems to have been named after Joséphine de Beauharnais and after her two godparents, her future mother-in-law Grand Duchess Charlotte, and her paternal uncle Prince Charles, Count of Flanders. You don't need to go back to the 15th century to find the name Charles in the family.

Princess Joséphine-Charlotte of Belgium - Wikipedia

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Prince Charles, Count of Flanders - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[Prinsara]

Grand Duchess Joséphine-Charlotte seems to have been named after Joséphine de Beauharnais and after her two godparents, her future mother-in-law Grand Duchess Charlotte, and her paternal uncle Prince Charles, Count of Flanders. You don't need to go back to the 15th century to find the name Charles in the family.

Princess Joséphine-Charlotte of Belgium - Wikipedia

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Prince Charles, Count of Flanders - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Prince Charles was named after his maternal grandfather Karl-Theodor in Bavaria.

 

[meeralakshmi]

Not sure if there’s any confirmation but I think King Willem-Alexander was named after the two older brothers of Queen Wilhelmina who held the title of Prince of Orange but died before they could become king. Also pretty sure Louis Ducruet is named after his great-great-grandfather Prince Louis II of Monaco.

 

[Chrissyyy]

Queen Louise of Sweden was named for her godparents.
Louise: Louis IV, Grand Duke of Hesse and by Rhine (Maternal Grandfather)
Alexandra: Prince Alexander Joseph of Battenberg (Paternal Uncle)
Marie: Grand Duchess Maria Alexandrovna of Russia (Great Aunt, also first cousin-once removed and second cousin)
Irene: Princess Irene of Hesse and by Rhine (Marernal Aunt)

 

[meeralakshmi]

Took me a while to realize that Juan Carlos is named after his father and maternal grandfather.

 

[Chrissyyy]

Took me a while to realize that Juan Carlos is named after his father and maternal grandfather.

His maternal grandfather Prince Carlos was also his godfather.

 

[CyrilVladisla]

Could not King Juan Carlos have also been named after King Juan II of Castile and King Juan II of Aragon?

 

[meeralakshmi]

Could not King Juan Carlos have also been named after King Juan II of Castile and King Juan II of Aragon?

Probably who his father Juan was named after.

 

[Countessmeout]

Of course most heirs are given significantly royal historic not going to get Prince Fox of Wales. But which name is chosen often is impacted by personal ties

Juan Carlos Alfonso Víctor María

Juan historic but also dad
Carlos- maternal grandfather and godfather
Alfonso-paternal grandfather
Victor-masculine of Victoria for paternal grandmother Victoria Eugenie who was godmother

His siblings were similar, all carried names of their godparents

Margarita María de la Victoria Esperanza Jacoba Felicidad Perpetua de Todos los Santos
-Esperanza for her godmother and maternal aunt Princess Maria de la Esperanza of Bourbon-Two Sicilies
-Jacoba is Spanish form of Jaime for her godfather and uncle Infante Jaime

María del Pilar Alfonsa Juana Victoria Luisa Ignacia y Todos los Santos
-Alfonsa for paternal grandfather and godfather
-Luisa for Louise of Orleans maternal grandmother and godmother

Alfonso Cristino Teresa Ángelo Francisco de Asís y Todos los Santos
-Alfonso while also for grandfather honors godfather Duke of Galleria
-Cristino Teresa for his godmother and paternal aunt Maria Cristina Teresa

Felipe (grandfather Juan) and Cristina (great aunt Maria Cristina) share name with same gender godparent.Elena and her grandmother/godmother Maria Mercedes both carry Isabel.

 

[Tatiana Maria]

Margarita María de la Victoria Esperanza Jacoba Felicidad Perpetua de Todos los Santos

-Esperanza for her godmother and maternal aunt Princess Maria de la Esperanza of Bourbon-Two Sicilies
-Jacoba is Spanish form of Jaime for her godfather and uncle Infante Jaime

Infanta Margarita's mother and aunt were by birth Princesses of the [Spanish] House of Bourbon, not Princesses of the Two Sicilies.

Infantes de España

Their half-brother the Infante Alfonso of Spain did become a pretender to the Two Sicilies and assumed the Two Sicilies surname and titles for himself and his descendants. But his sister and half-sisters were not involved in his pretensions, and never adopted Sicilian titles or names for themselves.

 

[meeralakshmi]

Alfonso Cristino Teresa Ángelo Francisco de Asís y Todos los Santos
-Alfonso while also for grandfather honors godfather Duke of Galleria
-Cristino Teresa for his godmother and paternal aunt Maria Cristina Teresa

Francisco de Asís is for his paternal great-great-grandfather King Francisco de Asís of Spain.

Though I don’t know how reliable of a source it is a royal wiki states that Princess Louise of Belgium is named after her great-grandmothers: “Princess Louise Sophie Mary was named after first or second names of her great-grandmothers: Marie Louise Sclifet, Luisa Gazelli Conti Rossana, Princess Astrid Sofia Lovisa Thyra of Sweden, and Olive Mary Harmer.” Louise is Claire’s middle name so Claire must get her middle name from her grandma. However I’m guessing that Louise was partially chosen as a first name after the princess’ 4x great-grandmother Queen Louise of Belgium.

 

[meeralakshmi]

Princess Madeleine of Sweden is probably named after Count Carl Bernadotte’s daughter Countess Madeleine Bernadotte.

Her daughter Leonore may be named after Queen Ulrika Eleonora.

 

[JR76]

Princess Madeleine of Sweden is probably named after Count Carl Bernadotte’s daughter Countess Madeleine Bernadotte.

Carl was a prince not a count. It was a Belgian title given to him by his brother-in-law, the King of the Belgians, and not a Luxemburgish title like that of his cousins.

 

[meeralakshmi]

Carl was a prince not a count. It was a Belgian title given to him by his brother-in-law, the King of the Belgians, and not a Luxemburgish title like that of his cousins.

Yes indeed, he would be a prince but his male-line descendants would be counts/countesses.

 

[JR76]

Yes indeed, he would be a prince but his male-line descendants would be counts/countesses.

Yes, I know. His daughter's future husband was also raised in rank before their wedding by her cousin, King Baudouin, and given the title of Count Ullens de Schooten-Whetnall.

 

[meeralakshmi]

Yes, I know. His daughter's future husband was also raised in rank before their wedding by her cousin, King Baudouin, and given the title of Count Ullens de Schooten-Whetnall.

I wasn't aware of that, I thought he was always a count. What titles do their male-line descendants have?