Lady Nimue
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I think special conditions will apply for Meghan as a diplomatic courtesy. Makes sense to me. Between governments.
Something like this wouldn't likely be granted unless the UK government makes the request. Wouldn't this be seen as special treatment? At that point, just expedite the citizenship as they wouldn't have to ask a foreign government for a favor and would likely have to give something in return.
If Meghan genuinely wants UK citizenship and to be seen as following the normal procedures she will win a lot more fans and respect than if she uses who soon to be new position for her advantage.
If she is to be fast-tracked for citizenship it should also be on the clear understanding that she renounces her US citizenship - which won't go down that well in the US.
She is actually in a lose-lose position if she is fast-tracked but win-win if she follows the normal procedures.
The most important thing is that if she does take the longer route that she ensure that she and Harry's finances are totally transparent - along with Charles' and the Queen's as anything they give her, or have already given her, could be questioned by the IRS I believe.
I'm sure Meghan has the benefit of having top notch financial advisors and international tax experts working on this for her. I'm by no means even close to being literate on taxes anywhere so this is just an uneducated guess for me.
My statement was for the tax period of 2017 and part of 2018 before her marriage. After she marries, then she will be under the Firm's umbrella as a member of the BRF. Until she marries, she still files taxes as a single, US citizen and the BRF is not pertinent to her finances unless she earned income from them. At least that's what makes sense to me. But then again, what do I know?
She will be bothering with all the hassle in the next 5 years if she is not being fast-tracked... And any children will have issues at least until they are 18.These tax issues suggest to me that it makes overwhelming sense for Meghan to renounce her US citizenship as thousands of people do every year when she becomes a UK citizen.
Why bother with all this hassle, as well as the expense not only in the tax she'll have to pay but in the no doubt very expensive lawyers and accountants she'll need to retain to try and deal with it? She'll likely end up with a diplomatic UK passport (I assume) which will surely allow her to visit the US as regularly as she wants to.
One thing I'm sure she won't do is accept any fast track UK citizenship even if it were offered to her, and I very much doubt it would be. Immigration is an enormously touchy subject in the UK, one need only see recent news headlines in the UK over the last few days. Giving an American princess special treatment in this regard would be a PR disaster of gargantuan proportions for the BRF and the government of the day. This may or may not be fair to Meghan personally but it is the reality here in the UK.
She will be bothering with all the hassle in the next 5 years if she is not being fast-tracked... And any children will have issues at least until they are 18.
So, I don't see how things can be arranged in an effective way -i.e., without compromising the BRF's finances-, without giving her a special treatment one way or another.
Well, if there are children born into this marriage in the next five years and a trust fund is set up for them. They can always do so in US to avoid the pain of filing two tax returns and then FBAR disclosure. But of course, I imagine this will cause a bit of an upset in UK if it ever came out. Although, I’d expect reasonable people to understand give the precarious situation they are in.
If she is to be fast-tracked for citizenship it should also be on the clear understanding that she renounces her US citizenship - which won't go down that well in the US.
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If Meghan genuinely wants UK citizenship and to be seen as following the normal procedures she will win a lot more fans and respect than if she uses who soon to be new position for her advantage.
If she is to be fast-tracked for citizenship it should also be on the clear understanding that she renounces her US citizenship - which won't go down that well in the US.
She is actually in a lose-lose position if she is fast-tracked but win-win if she follows the normal procedures.
The most important thing is that if she does take the longer route that she ensure that she and Harry's finances are totally transparent - along with Charles' and the Queen's as anything they give her, or have already given her, could be questioned by the IRS I believe.
However, if all these measures need to be taken while they can be easily avoided by fast-tracking her citizenship, why not go the most logical route - as has been done in other royal families as it is absurd to have a foreigner represent your country...
But I believe that's the solution you are favoring as well.
Maxima and Mary Donaldson have been both fast-tracked respectively for Dutch and Danish citizenship. It is only in the UK that fast-tracking Meghan for British ciitizenship has become a controversial issue.
Maxima and Mary Donaldson have been both fast-tracked respectively for Dutch and Danish citizenship. It is only in the UK that fast-tracking Meghan for British ciitizenship has become a controversial issue.
Yes, that's correct. And before anyone else jump in and say that they were marrying the future king, I will point out the the former Princess Alexandra of Denmark and Princess Marie of Denmark were both granted citizenship upon marriage as well.
On the other hand, Luxembourg and Belgium did not even offer citizenship to Princess Claire of Luxembourg or Princess Amedeo of Belgium respectively.
Don't know about the latter, but Princess Claire of Luxembourg isn't very actively in public life if I remember correctly.
Ok, so completely different situations here. We are talking about someone that will undertake engagements on behalf of HMQ. Including official foreign tours at the request of the Foreign Office.Correct, and Princess Amedeo of Belgium does not attend public engagements at all.
On the other hand, Luxembourg and Belgium did not even offer citizenship to Princess Claire of Luxembourg or Princess Amedeo of Belgium respectively.
Yes. But that's Denmark and the Netherlands. We are talking about tbe UK and the current issue of immigration which has become controversial. I understand what the others are saying. I am from the Caribbean and currently there is an issue where Caribbean people have lived in the UK for decades and some of them are being denied access to benefits and pensions. Yes, I know that this issue is very complex and these people don't represent the Queen, but the optics would look bad if Meghan is given citizenship only after 6 months.