Marius Borg Høiby News & Current Events Part 1: December 2023 -

[Muhler]

I have no sympathies for Marius, but is it certain they were all made without consent? In principle recording such things is not illegal if both agree. And as the camera must be rather obvious during intercourse, one wonders if all people recorded minded at the time. It is something that seems commonplace for some people today. Were they all in fear and too afraid to tell him to stop?

It seems to me he does a lot of stimulants. I imagine his bed partners do the same. There may be reason for confusion and lack of judgment in at least some of the cases. But we will see that during the trial, if there ever is one.

They would probably out cold, while Marius was what he was doing. Even though the possibility of roleplay cannot be ruled out, you would have to a very covincibg actor to play unconscious throughout a whole intercourse. Let alone for several women to do likewise, not to mentioning even wanting to play such a kind of roleplay.

 

[hereditarytitles]

They would probably out cold, while Marius was what he was doing. Even though the possibility of roleplay cannot be ruled out, you would have to a very covincibg actor to play unconscious throughout a whole intercourse. Let alone for several women to do likewise, not to mentioning even wanting to play such a kind of roleplay.

It is possible that there were partners who agreed with Marius' strange methods. Logically, they will not press charges. We now know that there were some who knew nothing about it because they were drugged. There might be more cases of that coming up. It will be a tedious business for the police to analyze all these files and find out what happened voluntarily or involuntarily.
I can't remember ever hearing of an abuse case on this scale.

 

[Marengo]

For now it seems unclear in what state the unidentified women were in the new folder. His lawyer says that intercourse and filming happened in mutual agreement. Whether the women were unconcious seems unclear but for now we have no information that says that they were. Neither do we know if they were using drugs -which IMO is likely and if so, if they took that voluntarily or not. The reality is that in Western capitals MANY young people are doing drugs.

The fact that he still is roaming about may not mean the Norwegian justice system is flawed. But it can also mean that the police simply does not have enough evidence at this point. Although in our eyes he may be guilty, if the evidence is lacking they have no way of arresting him.

 

[moby]

At least one woman admits to not knowing about and not consenting to the sexual act and the filming. That alone is horrendous. The other two women, his exes, admit to being abused. That's three women with very serious, sickening allegations. Even if the police did not find the other materials, those three cases should be enough to put him behind bars.

 

[victor1319]

The fact that he still is roaming about may not mean the Norwegian justice system is flawed. But it can also mean that the police simply does not have enough evidence at this point.

If I remember it right, this tv-personalty from the Skaugum incident is on a "video" on the confiscated smartphone of Marius - and she said publicly she did not aggree. If right, that would be enough to lock him up already.

 

[Marengo]

I referred to the women in the new folder, of which we know nothing other than that it is there. Perhaps the women themselves know nothing yet either as the police says they are still identifying them.

Allegations alone are hard to prove. The tv presentor says she did not give consent. His lawyer says she did. There will not have been a third party present to verify these statements. If they were all under the influence of something -which is a possibility- would anybody still remember anything in the first place? And if so, how can such a memory be trusted now? Legally this is a minefield and unfortunately the reality is that sexual abuse is very hard to prove as it is a lot of he said/she said. This is not only the case in Norway but a problem in most - if not all- legal systems and a great focus point of the me-too movement of 5 years ago.

For now we have no evidence that the Norwegian police is simply pushing away this case due to his status. And at this point I think the logic may work the other way around: they are using more resources than usual for such a case exactly because it is a case that is in the public eye. Again, the reality is that most abuse cases go unreported and when they are reported they often disappear in the lower drawer as the police knows they are difficult -if not impossible- to prove. That -fortunately- is not an option here. To ever get to a conviction the police can not make too many missteps. A hasty arrest would be unwise and could actually harm the case.

Marius is guilty of making a mess out of his life, dragging his family and partners down into the gutter with him. He is guilty of throwing away all the opportunities he has received. He is guilty of leading an aimless, hedonistic and empty life. He may be guilty of abusing women too, but for now -and as difficult it may be to accept this as we receive so many press updates- the evidence is still not there, otherwise he would have been charged. He certainly is guilty in the court of public opinion, but that is not where this case / these cases will be settled.

 

[Muhler]

I suspect he had installed cameras in the bedroom or whereever. And angle could suggest that the women may not have known about the camera. After all why hide a camera or use Odd camera angles if it is all concensual? Surely you would want to look your best if it was just a kinky thing you took part in?
And why didn't he share his cinematic masterpieces with the women afterwards, if they were in on it?
After a lot of people film themselves having intercourse only to enjoy - or even marvel... - at the result afterwards.

 

[Marengo]

Were that to be the case that would make some of the charges a lot easier to prove. But I imagine that in that scenario he would have been arrested already. Anyway, I am sure we will know more soon. Up to now in this case there is always a new development sooner rather than later.

 

[Ghost]

I will make a sea of difference if the recordings have the sound on.

 

[Alisa]

Has Skaugum been searched?
We know videos of him assaulting women were filmed in the basement of Skaugum. Perhaps if they do a thorough search who knows what else they may uncover.

 

[hereditarytitles]

I suspect he had installed cameras in the bedroom or whereever. And angle could suggest that the women may not have known about the camera. After all why hide a camera or use Odd camera angles if it is all concensual? Surely you would want to look your best if it was just a kinky thing you took part in?
And why didn't he share his cinematic masterpieces with the women afterwards, if they were in on it?
After a lot of people film themselves having intercourse only to enjoy - or even marvel... - at the result afterwards.

I believe people can exercise their sexual preferences in private, but I don't want to know about it. It's none of my business.

But as soon as a person involved is harassed, harmed or forcibly forced to do something they don't want to do, it's a different story.

That's the case with Marius, otherwise his ex-girlfriends wouldn't have complained about it. It's not just about sexual preferences with this man, but also about violence, beatings, verbal abuse, destruction of homes, etc.
Of course, this all needs to be investigated thoroughly. I think that's a mammoth task.
He could have made a statement once, on the advice of a lawyer. “I'm sorry for what I did to my ex-girlfriends, but the other women agreed to being filmed."
But that didn't happen because this guy has no sense of wrongdoing whatsoever.
It would be bad if his lawyer tried to portray him as innocent and claiming that the women involved consented. I am afraid that his lawyer is trying to work on something like that.

 

[suztav]

JMHO -- Marius is actually making the Shaman look like a credible human being

 

[LadyFinn]

Se og Hør:
The police investigation is in full swing, and Se og Hør can now reveal that the police have found a pattern of similarities in several of the cases. It is crucial whether the women were unconscious or unable to resist sexual intercourse. Marius is also said to have filmed himself and the women during the alleged rapes.
"We have no comment, other than that the investigation is still ongoing", writes press officer Unni T. Grøndal of the Oslo police to Se og Hør. She can't give any time frame for when the investigation will be completed.

Politiet har funnet et mønster

Etterforskere har gjennomgått et stort bilde-og videomateriale i Høiby-aken, og har funnet et helt spesielt mønster.

www.seher.no

 

[polyesco]

So this secret folder where the police are finding all this "potential" evidence was from computers and other electronic devices that were taken from his home during the November arrest. The one that the CP couple was not informed of beforehand.
Good. No time for "spontaneous" cleaning up of rooms or missing sim cards just magically disappearing.

 

[Duke of Marmalade]

So this secret folder where the police are finding all this "potential" evidence was from computers and other electronic devices that were taken from his home during the November arrest. The one that the CP couple was not informed of beforehand.
Good. No time for "spontaneous" cleaning up of rooms or missing sim cards just magically disappearing.

Wow, they are clearly taking their time. How long does it take to investigate a computer these days? Its a joke that Marius is still walking the streets of Norway, possibly targeting new victims.

 

[LadyFinn]

Marius is refusing to be questioned again, fearing leaks. Now the police will investigate the case after a complaint from his new defense attorney. Ellen Holager Andenæs feels a deep concern about how this case is developing. What is happening now is that the investigation may simply be sabotaged, the constant leaks from police investigations, including of top secret information, and the media's reproduction of these and the intense media pressure against Marius, "inhuman pressure".
Andenæs' office asked the Oslo Police District to investigate the leaks in the case as a breach of confidentiality.
The police confirmed that they have received the reports. The assessment of whether this has happened internally within the police has been forwarded to The Norwegian Bureau for the Investigation of Police Affairs. The police district itself will assess whether there are grounds for conducting further investigations against the parties who have received the documents in the case.

Forsvarer bryter tausheten: - Dypt bekymret

Marius Borg Høiby (28) vegrer seg for å stille i nye avhør, i frykt for lekkasjer. Nå vil politiet undersøke saken etter anmeldelse fra Høibys nye forsvarer.

www.tv2.no

 

[crm2317]

What a joke the police seem to be. They need to crack on with having Marius sent to prison and stop spending so much time leaking info to Se og Hør.

 

[LadyFinn]

One of the victims, Linni Meister, is angry:
TV 2 wrote: "The leaks mean that Høiby is now reluctant to be questioned again, even though both the police and he himself initially want it, according to his defense attorney."
That makes Linni react. On Saturday afternoon, she took to Snapchat to share her views on the statement:
"Stupidest thing I've ever read! He prioritizes parties and points the finger at pictures that abound on social media! He gives a complete f**k! He could have let himself be questioned about what I had to see with my own eyes during interrogation! Instead, he prioritizes partying around the world. So please spare me any more LIES!".

Raser mot Høiby: – Han gir fullstendig blanke faen

De siste uttalelsene til Marius Borg Høibys forsvarer får Linni Meister til å reagere.

www.nettavisen.no

 

[Muhler]

One of the victims, Linni Meister, is angry:
TV 2 wrote: "The leaks mean that Høiby is now reluctant to be questioned again, even though both the police and he himself initially want it, according to his defense attorney."
That makes Linni react. On Saturday afternoon, she took to Snapchat to share her views on the statement:
"Stupidest thing I've ever read! He prioritizes parties and points the finger at pictures that abound on social media! He gives a complete f**k! He could have let himself be questioned about what I had to see with my own eyes during interrogation! Instead, he prioritizes partying around the world. So please spare me any more LIES!".

Raser mot Høiby: – Han gir fullstendig blanke faen

De siste uttalelsene til Marius Borg Høibys forsvarer får Linni Meister til å reagere.

www.nettavisen.no

She said it!
She so nailed it!

It's always poor little Marius.
Poor little Marius didn't get titles like his half-siblings. Bou-hou.
Poor little Marius is struggling with mental issues and addictions. Bou-hou.
Poor little Marius is actually a good, funny and loving kid. He's just a little wild.
The press is always writing about poor little Marius.
People are having a go at poor little Marius, just because he vacates a little in Milan and Copenhagen and has a little fun, while being under investigations for multiple charges of drug-rape. How dare they not feel sorry for him? He needs a breather once in a while.
People demand that Marius go on a rehab, just because he has a slight anger-issue and crash his car a little bit narrowly missing a guard, who probably thought it was a hoot. All those demands! Come on, Marius is only human. It's not right to make such unreasonable demands.
And people are annoyed at poor little Marius just because he has some colorful friends, who are a little bit criminal and by accident stole a few things from Skaugum. People are so narrow-minded.
And people are appalled because he slapped a girlfriend or three a little bit. It wasn't a big deal anyway as he only used the palm of his hand. And he did say sorry once, right? What more do people want? That he should actually genuinely feel sorry about it?!?
And the police want to ask questions all the time. Don't they know how annoying it is to be asked questions you don't want to answer? And it really disrupts his daily schedule.
And the videos he made. They were just a bit of fun. In fact they were so funny, he encrypted them. So no harm done, eh?
In fact there is so much unfair pressure on Marius that he hasn't got time to feel a little empathy for his victims, even though they may under some pressure too. Not as much as poor Marius of course, but still.

I don't know about you, but I genuinely feel sorry for poor Marius.

 

[caethi]

Everyone--the victims, the police, the public prosecutor (or equivalent) and the alleged perpetrator, should keep their mouths shut. Build the case and let it be sent to trial without being tried in the court of public opinion.

It's possible that there is cause to keep Marius under house arrest or something similar, if that is allowed in Norwegian law, but if there is not, they need to get on with the trial. You can't just put an alleged perpetrator in jail without a trial to establish his guilt, and if he is indeed a serial rapist he poses a risk to the public. These are serious crimes, if true.

I lay no blame on the NRF for Marius' behaviour, because he has long been an adult and is responsible for himself. If he is mentally ill or an addict, I suspect that may be taken into account in sentencing but the court, not the police, need to make that determination.

This needs to go to trial.

 

[Prinsara]

You can't just put an alleged perpetrator in jail without a trial to establish his guilt

Sure you can. It’s called remanded without bail, although still decided by a judge.

And while there is probably no bail that the NRF would not be able to post, I don’t think the concept exists in Norway’s judicial system, anyway.

For all that being said, again, as heinous as everything Marius has allegedly done is, Norwegians themselves do not really seem to be screaming for something to be done with him, yesterday.

So it has to be assumed he appears to be treated like just about anyone else there, even with leaks and gossip given his notoriety and Norway’s small population.

 

[polyesco]

"He could have let himself be questioned about what I had to see with my own eyes during interrogation!"

Wow, I can feel her pain. This is someone that had good things to say about Marius, and then had to see herself being abused by him.
So no, no pity for Marius.

 

[LadyFinn]

That the interrogations and investigations take so long, it is difficult to the victims.
Linni Meister about Marius at podcast "Puppen og Lillemor" she runs with her friend Mia Gundersen:
– I can't understand that I would become one of his victims. I'm still shocked. I didn't believe it when the police showed me the evidence. I was completely shocked. I still refuse to believe it. It hurts so damn much, it was a betrayal. He has no respect for himself, or his family. Not even for us victims. It's hurtful.
– Marius doesn't take anything seriously – everything is like a game to him, says Linni, choked with tears in the podcast.

Bryter tausheten om Marius: - Fortsatt sjokkert

Linni Meister er blant de fornærmede i saken mot Marius Borg Høiby. Nå forteller hun ærlig om hvordan det oppleves, og går hardt ut mot sin tidligere venn.

www.tv2.no

- Kongehuset må ta grep

Politiets bevis rystet Linni. Men hun synes det er like ille å se at festen bare fortsetter for Marius Borg Høiby.

www.seher.no

- Trodde ikke på det

TV-profil Linni Meister sier at hun «ble helt fra seg» og ikke trodde på bevisene mot Marius Borg Høiby som politiet viste henne.

www.dagbladet.no

 

[polyesco]

" If we are going to have a monarchy, we have to be able to trust it. He is not even in a place where he takes care of his health. He travels from country to country to party! she says – clearly disheartened."

Very true for me. Of course the Crown Prince couple are not responsible for his actions but they sure are enabling him in the past and current.

"– The only thing he's proving right now is that he doesn't give a damn. He's choosing not to go under questioning to even try to explain himself, they say in the podcast.
Mom pays
The friend duo also questions how he finances his jet-set lifestyle these days, something they believe many people are wondering about. In December, TV 2 reported that Marius, in questioning by the police, allegedly said that he received 20,000 a month from his parents.
According to TV2's information, the Crown Prince couple also paid various bills for Marius - to prevent them from going to debt collection."

When will the Crown Prince Couple stop financing his lifestyle? Has his diplomatic passport been removed?

 

[LadyFinn]

While Marius was during Easter partying at several nightclubs in Hemsedal with his friends, someone broke into the new home of his ex-girlfriend (the Frogner woman).
(..)

Nytt mareritt for Marius' eks-kjæreste

AVSLØRING: Mens Marius Borg Høiby festet i Hemsedal, brøt noen seg inn i den nye boligen til eks-kjæresten som han fortsatt har besøkforbud mot. Politiet skal ha åpnet etterforskning også i denne saken.

www.seher.no

Marius has "disposed" of one of Haakon's twelve rental homes since December 2022. The Royal House hasn't responded to whether he has paid rent to live in the 164 square meter house.
Børsen recently reported on Haakon's strict maintenance agreement, which places far more responsibility on his tenants than the Rent Act allows. So Børsen asked the royal house if Marius has signed a lease with Haakon, and if he has the same strict maintenance obligation as the other tenants.
- We don't comment on Marius Borg Høiby's private finances, says communications manager Guri Varpe.
(..)

Skaugum-opphold kan bli dyrt

Det er ikke kjent om Marius Borg Høiby betaler for å bo på Skaugum. Men det må han - enten til kronprinsen eller Skatteetaten.

borsen.dagbladet.no

Mener Marius Borg Høiby burde skatte av Skaugum-bolig

Marius Borg Høibys Skaugum-opphold kan gi skattekrav. Det er fortsatt uklart om Marius Borg Høiby betaler leie for boligen han disponerer på Skaugum, men enten må han betale til kronprins Haakon – eller til Skatteetaten. Kronprinsen eier tolv utleieboliger på Skaugum, og ifølge Kongehuset har...

inyheter.no

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[Luc122]

I wonder if the RF will look at this marriage of Haakon's as the beginning of their fall with the public. Perhaps I am biased but mixed families are far too difficult to manage - especially that of a stepparent which is the role Haakon choose- a role that is filled with duty but never any rewards. Children seem to never respect their step parents regardless of the kindness done to them

 

[hereditarytitles]

I wonder if the RF will look at this marriage of Haakon's as the beginning of their fall with the public. Perhaps I am biased but mixed families are far too difficult to manage - especially that of a stepparent which is the role Haakon choose- a role that is filled with duty but never any rewards. Children seem to never respect their step parents regardless of the kindness done to them

From my personal experience within my family and friends, I cannot confirm that a relationship with stepfathers or mothers is always bad. On the contrary, the relationships are often better than with the biological parent.
I think Marius is an extreme example that can't be generalized.

 

[polyesco]

While Marius was during Easter partying at several nightclubs in Hemsedal with his friends, someone broke into the new home of his ex-girlfriend (the Frogner woman).
(..)

Nytt mareritt for Marius' eks-kjæreste

AVSLØRING: Mens Marius Borg Høiby festet i Hemsedal, brøt noen seg inn i den nye boligen til eks-kjæresten som han fortsatt har besøkforbud mot. Politiet skal ha åpnet etterforskning også i denne saken.

www.seher.no

Marius has "disposed" of one of Haakon's twelve rental homes since December 2022. The Royal House hasn't responded to whether he has paid rent to live in the 164 square meter house.
Børsen recently reported on Haakon's strict maintenance agreement, which places far more responsibility on his tenants than the Rent Act allows. So Børsen asked the royal house if Marius has signed a lease with Haakon, and if he has the same strict maintenance obligation as the other tenants.
- We don't comment on Marius Borg Høiby's private finances, says communications manager Guri Varpe.
(..)

Skaugum-opphold kan bli dyrt

Det er ikke kjent om Marius Borg Høiby betaler for å bo på Skaugum. Men det må han - enten til kronprinsen eller Skatteetaten.

borsen.dagbladet.no

Mener Marius Borg Høiby burde skatte av Skaugum-bolig

Marius Borg Høibys Skaugum-opphold kan gi skattekrav. Det er fortsatt uklart om Marius Borg Høiby betaler leie for boligen han disponerer på Skaugum, men enten må han betale til kronprins Haakon – eller til Skatteetaten. Kronprinsen eier tolv utleieboliger på Skaugum, og ifølge Kongehuset har...

inyheter.no

Seeing that his parents cover any debt he has and gives him an allowance, I would guess that No he doesn't pay rent.

Maintenance agreement? Yes mama crown princess Mette Marit will come over and clean every once in awhile.

 

[tommy100]

I wonder if the RF will look at this marriage of Haakon's as the beginning of their fall with the public. Perhaps I am biased but mixed families are far too difficult to manage - especially that of a stepparent which is the role Haakon choose- a role that is filled with duty but never any rewards. Children seem to never respect their step parents regardless of the kindness done to them

I don't think it necessarily true at all. There are many examples of royal family's where mixed families, or those with step parents work well. Look at the BRF - Charles and Camilla are step parents to each others children and Tim is step father to Zara and Peter. Or the Danish Royal Family and the way Joachim's children all get on and there seems respect between them all and their step mothers. Plus countless other examples outside of Royal Families.

From my own experience step parents can help not hinder - another voice to help guide on the right path to follow. The issue here I suspect is not that Marius doesn't respect Haakon but that he doesn't respect anybody - mother, father, step-father or girlfriend(s).

 

[Prinsara]

is not that Marius doesn't respect Haakon but that he doesn't respect anybody - mother, father, step-father or girlfriend(s).

Or laws or police.