Marius Borg Høiby News & Current Events Part 1: December 2023 -

[Healthy Sceptic]

He was out of sight for about four weeks around Christmas, I'm hoping/thinking that he was in rehab at the time. (BTW, I misspoke earlier about the length of drug rehab, it's 4 weeks not 6.) So he had time to complete rehab, which is basically psychological therapy, and now he's back home. Since we haven't heard anything about him partying (I'm sure he's being watched like a hawk (or a vulture) by the press) it may be he's making a go of reforming. For now. Until after the trial and when he's done with his sentence. Then I have a feeling he'll go right back to partying. I really hope I'm wrong.

But, as far as the violence against women goes, that is a different story, and much more serious than a drug rehab can handle. He will no doubt be assigned to some kind of anti-violence therapy by a judge as part of his sentencing.

In the meantime life goes on. I feel sorry for IA, it must be very confusing and troubling to have all these accusations against a brother you love. Shame on Marius for putting her through this. And shame on their parents for not handling Marius when he was young enough. Their negligence in raising Marius calls into question how well they raised IA, undermining her position.

I do wish the police would get it over with but it sounds like they have a ton of media to go through (phones, computers, etc.), then they have to compile the vast amount of evidence into a form that is presentable in court. The wheels of justice turn slowly.

 

[Lady Daly]

I am surprised the court hasn't remanded Marius until trial. Especially since law enforcement has found evidence not only of physical abuse but now sexual abuse involving several women. If he were not the son of the Crown Princess, coming from a family of wealth and status this would have gone an entirely different way for Marius. I doubt he would be currently vacationing at a resort with his family.

Concerns on how IA was raised given that Marius was raised in the same household. I've mentioned this before; Marius's first 3 years were spent very differently, with a single mother, a drug addicted father although he didn't live with them. The stability and family support IA started out in life with was very different than Marius.

 

[Healthy Sceptic]

I am surprised the court hasn't remanded Marius until trial. Especially since law enforcement has found evidence not only of physical abuse but now sexual abuse involving several women. If he were not the son of the Crown Princess, coming from a family of wealth and status this would have gone an entirely different way for Marius. I doubt he would be currently vacationing at a resort with his family.

Concerns on how IG was raised given that Marius was raised in the same household. I've mentioned this before; Marius's first 3 years were spent very differently, with a single mother, a drug addicted father although he didn't live with them. The stability and family support IG started out in life with was very different than Marius.

Yes, and those are very formative years in a child's development. MM was certainly better equipped to handle parenthood with Haakon than on her own.

But, to put it in an old fashioned way, I think both her parents have loose morals. Certainly IA's mother's work ethic isn't super strong and she's hung out with some pretty shady characters even after marriage. I don't have a lot of faith that MM is my ideal mother to be honest, and I think Haakon is led around by the nose. So not a lot of faith that IA & SM were brought a much differently than Marius in the long run.

 

[Lady Daly]

Yes, and those are very formative years in a child's development. MM was certainly better equipped to handle parenthood with Haakon than on her own.

But, to put it in an old fashioned way, I think both her parents have loose morals. Certainly IA's mother's work ethic isn't super strong and she's hung out with some pretty shady characters even after marriage. I don't have a lot of faith that MM is my ideal mother to be honest, and I think Haakon is led around by the nose. So not a lot of faith that IA & SM were brought a much differently than Marius in the long run.

Interesting take on Haakon and Mette-Marit. It looks like Norway is stuck with quite a bit of dysfunction within their Crown RF, let alone the ML situation.Time will tell especially with IA as she completes her military training. Regarding Marius, it's difficult to know what will happen to him.

 

[bh555]

What is frustrating to see is haakon having to carry the whole weight of it all on his sholders and mm is just sitting there with a smiling face being pretty

 

[LadyFinn]

Here is Marius in Malangen
A cabin owner in Malangen walked on Sunday morning right up to the Crown Prince family when he was going for a walk.
– I took a walk down to the cabin field at Malangen Brygger, and there the Crown Prince was standing on the steps of a white cabin. I was a little startled at first, but said good morning, and he nodded back. I walked a little further, and then a guy came with his hat pulled down over his face and sunglasses. I recognized him immediately – it was Marius Borg Høiby.

Her er Marius Borg Høiby i Malangen

Marius Borg Høiby og kronprinsen har vært i Malangen i helgen.

www.nettavisen.no

 

[hereditarytitles]

Here is Marius in Malangen
A cabin owner in Malangen walked on Sunday morning right up to the Crown Prince family when he was going for a walk.
– I took a walk down to the cabin field at Malangen Brygger, and there the Crown Prince was standing on the steps of a white cabin. I was a little startled at first, but said good morning, and he nodded back. I walked a little further, and then a guy came with his hat pulled down over his face and sunglasses. I recognized him immediately – it was Marius Borg Høiby.

Her er Marius Borg Høiby i Malangen

Marius Borg Høiby og kronprinsen har vært i Malangen i helgen.

www.nettavisen.no

Tabloid "Bild" headlines today were that Marius is presently in a luxury resort, Malangen, in Norway, together with his stepfather. The article is behind a paywall, so I couldn't read it. But you get the impression that this is not a remote cabin somewhere in the woods, but a holiday resort with expensive hotels and cottages.

 

[Muhler]

Malangen is a small fjord in Norway, not that far from the town of Narvik.
It's a very scenic area with at least two national parks.

I would prefer Marius was housed a more remote place, but there can't be much to do there for someone like Marius but enjoying the scenery and going for long hikes in the mountains and along the fjords.

 

[hereditarytitles]

They probably have to return soon to Oslo because Haakon probably has work to do. What to do with Marius then, watching him 24 hours? That seems almost impossible.

 

[LadyFinn]

Se og Hør about the Linni Meister case:
Se og Hør writes that the crime scene was Skaugum, in the Crown Prince couple's basement room (Marius moved to his own house three years later).
SH shows a film from that evening. Four people play Spin the Bottle at Marius' home, in Haakon and Mette-Marit's apartment. A harmless challenge creates laughter and a good atmosphere. A stark contrast to what is said to have happened later that evening.
It is surprising that such incident could have occurred at Skaugum. There aren't many places where you should be able to feel as safe as there. The property has a very high level of security, guards present at all time, and the members of the royal family are looked after by the PST's bodyguard service on site.
SH asked questions to both the Palace, the police and the PST. The police, the PST and lawyer Øyvind Bratlien have not answered the questions. Head of Communications at the Royal Court, Guri Varpe: We are only aware of this case through the media. We ask for your understanding that we cannot comment on an ongoing police case.

- Misbrukt i kronprinsparets kjeller

Nye detaljer fra saken mot Marius Borg Høiby sjokkerer. Kronprinsfamiliens strengt bevoktede hjem etterforskes nå som åsted for overgrep.

www.seher.no

Video of Spin the Bottle with Marius, Linni and others

«Marius-saken»: Se video fra skrekknatten

EKSKLUSIVT: Se og Hør har nå fått tilgang til en video fra natten der Linni Meister skal ha blitt utsatt for et overgrep av Marius Borg Høiby.

www.seher.no

 

[hereditarytitles]

Some person who was present at the party must have leaked the video to the public, probably for huge payments. Awful to watch that a harmless party, at least I suspect it was harmless, turned out into a criminal act and a nightmare for the woman involved. Very distressing that all this happened at the royal residence in Skaugum and nobody noticed anything.

 

[kalnel]

Playing Spin the Bottle sounds harmless until you realize that if this took place in 2018, Marius was 21 and Linn was 31. It's harmless when 14-year-olds play it; it's weird when people that age play. I was also struck by the large age gap between Marius and Linn -- why would a woman hang out with a guy a decade younger? It's one thing when the guy is 40 and the woman 50, but not many 30-something women find 21-year-olds interesting.

That doesn't explain or excuse anything that happened, but it does point to what an odd group surrounded Marius. Were they using him to get close to the CP couple and see their home?

 

[victor1319]

in 2018, Marius was 21 and Linn was 31...why would a woman hang out with a guy a decade younger

If I understood it right, this meeting and the subsequent rape happend in the Royal Residence Skaugum palace.

Being invited into the Royal Halls would be special and an extraordinary experience for many folks. Heck, I would even love to visit the Royal Halls under even more embarrassing circumstances!

 

[Muhler]

Playing Spin the Bottle sounds harmless until you realize that if this took place in 2018, Marius was 21 and Linn was 31. It's harmless when 14-year-olds play it; it's weird when people that age play. I was also struck by the large age gap between Marius and Linn -- why would a woman hang out with a guy a decade younger? It's one thing when the guy is 40 and the woman 50, but not many 30-something women find 21-year-olds interesting.

That doesn't explain or excuse anything that happened, but it does point to what an odd group surrounded Marius. Were they using him to get close to the CP couple and see their home?

Because Marius had something no other 21 year old male in Norway had at the time: royal affiliation.
It's a great allure, if you will pardon me being cynical.
on that account alone I doubt Marius has ever been in want of willing company.
so he really didn't need to rape anyone.

 

[Prinsara]

on that account alone I doubt Marius has ever been in want of willing company.
so he really didn't need to rape anyone.

But rape isn’t about willing company. It’s always been about power. Marius has the willing company and yet must assault women behind their backs unawares. He’ll be pretty easy for the legal system psychiatrist, no doubt — if not very interesting.

 

[hereditarytitles]

Playing Spin the Bottle sounds harmless until you realize that if this took place in 2018, Marius was 21 and Linn was 31. It's harmless when 14-year-olds play it; it's weird when people that age play. I was also struck by the large age gap between Marius and Linn -- why would a woman hang out with a guy a decade younger? It's one thing when the guy is 40 and the woman 50, but not many 30-something women find 21-year-olds interesting.

That doesn't explain or excuse anything that happened, but it does point to what an odd group surrounded Marius. Were they using him to get close to the CP couple and see their home?

As was stated in the article the "bottle party" took place in the basement of Skaugum. We don't know if Marius family was present, and if they were, I don't think that he showed his friends around while the family was at home. But if they were not present, it might be that he showed them how his family is living, which is trespassing IMO their privacy.
Maybe some of these party friends are the ones who stole wine bottles out of the royal cellar and also took expensive cutlery. I remember that this was reported by the police a while ago. It sure shows a picture of Marius recklessness and complete lack of respect and love for the family who raised him and supported him up to this day.

 

[LadyFinn]

Se og Hør:
Marius refuses to be questioned by the police regarding the Linni Meister case, at least at this time. That could change in the future.
Linni Meister's lawyer John Christian Elden comments on Se og Hør's information that Marius has so far not wanted to be questioned:
- It would be highly unusual in a morality case, and rarely something a suspect would have anything to gain from, but it is his right if he actually and thoughtfully chooses to use it.
Se og Hør hasn't got a comment from Marius' lawyer Øyvind Bratlien on this case.

- Nekter å la seg avhøre

Se og Hør avslører: Marius Borg Høiby vil ikke forklare seg overfor politiet om overgrepet mot Linni Meister.

www.seher.no

 

[kalnel]

Se og Hør:
Marius refuses to be questioned by the police regarding the Linni Meister case, at least at this time. That could change in the future.
Linni Meister's lawyer John Christian Elden comments on Se og Hør's information that Marius has so far not wanted to be questioned:
- It would be highly unusual in a morality case, and rarely something a suspect would have anything to gain from, but it is his right if he actually and thoughtfully chooses to use it.
Se og Hør hasn't got a comment from Marius' lawyer Øyvind Bratlien on this case.

- Nekter å la seg avhøre

Se og Hør avslører: Marius Borg Høiby vil ikke forklare seg overfor politiet om overgrepet mot Linni Meister.

www.seher.no

What an odd comment about if he “actually and thoughtfully chooses to use it.” Is he implying that Marius isn’t competent or involved in his own defense?

IIRC Elden is also the attorney for one of the other women.

 

[suztav]

He refuses to be questioned? What the heck does that mean? The man is under investigation for multiple crimes. Who gives him a choice?

 

[Muhler]

But rape isn’t about willing company. It’s always been about power. Marius has the willing company and yet must assault women behind their backs unawares. He’ll be pretty easy for the legal system psychiatrist, no doubt — if not very interesting.

Power. - Probably.
I think Marius is an angry little man with inferiority complexes which he compensates for by playing macho.
He has never accomplished anything and he has, I suspect, never won a real victory. He has always been allowed to quit.
If you try as hard as you can and fail, it's a victory. But only trying half-heartedly and then wanna quit on top of that then being told: Of course, you poor little darling. Instead of being told: Try again and try harder! That's a defeat.
I bet Marius has had plenty of those.
I imagine that in his world a man is always strong and in charge, if not he is weak and despicable and not worthy of any respect. But deep down he knows he's a failure. It's all an illusion. A pretense. A mask. And that angers him.
So he takes his anger and disappointment in himself out on people who are weaker than him, or who he in his macho-outlook believe should be weaker than him. Women. And that probably includes rape. If he of top of that has some sort of personality disorder or social dysfunction then you've a nasty cocktail on your hands.

Had Marius not been good looking and social and the son of the Crown Princess, he might very well have ended up sitting in the basement of his parents home being an ever angrier incel.

He ought to have been send out on a school ship when he was 16, away for six months, testing his limits and won personal victories and earned the respect he so much desire.

- And thus ends my pocket-philosophical thoughts for this day.

 

[hereditarytitles]

He refuses to be questioned? What the heck does that mean? The man is under investigation for multiple crimes. Who gives him a choice?

I also find that very confusing. He has also been questioned about other cases in which he injured, insulted and tortured the women concerned. Why not this time? I'm beginning to find it very strange that he's still walking around free despite all the accusations, some of which have been proven. Other defendants would probably have long since been remanded in custody. Why not him? As it stands, he will probably be “spared” until the summer until the police have analyzed enough material. And until then, some people, the family or who else? will have to keep an eye on him.

 

[Muhler]

I also find that very confusing. He has also been questioned about other cases in which he injured, insulted and tortured the women concerned. Why not this time? I'm beginning to find it very strange that he's still walking around free despite all the accusations, some of which have been proven. Other defendants would probably have long since been remanded in custody. Why not him? As it stands, he will probably be “spared” until the summer until the police have analyzed enough material. And until then, some people, the family or who else? will have to keep an eye on him.

In Norway they try and avoid putting people in jail, pending investigation, unless they are very dangerous or impede investigations or are likely to try and flee the country.
In DK in contrast Marius would have been in jail for months by now, probably some of that time in isolation because he was trying to impede investigation. Things are different in various countries.
Having said that I'm pretty surprised that Marius isn't in jail by now, even in Norway. Because he has after all been under serious investigation for a drug-rape committed while he was under investigation for other crimes.

Anyway, you can refuse to say anything to the police. That's a fundamental right most democratic countries has. I guess Marius is exercising that right. It may not exactly help his case, but he does have that right. No need to call him in for questioning if he has already officially declared that he won't answer any questions.

 

[suztav]

In Norway they try and avoid putting people in jail, pending investigation, unless they are very dangerous or impede investigations or are likely to try and flee the country.
In DK in contrast Marius would have been in jail for months by now, probably some of that time in isolation because he was trying to impede investigation. Things are different in various countries.
Having said that I'm pretty surprised that Marius isn't in jail by now, even in Norway. Because he has after all been under serious investigation for a drug-rape committed while he was under investigation for other crimes.

Anyway, you can refuse to say anything to the police. That's a fundamental right most democratic countries has. I guess Marius is exercising that right. It may not exactly help his case, but he does have that right. No need to call him in for questioning if he has already officially declared that he won't answer any questions.

Frankly, he, his mother, and step father should all be in jail for abusing the system and protecting an accused rapist and drug addict. Enough already!

 

[Healthy Sceptic]

Power. - Probably.
I think Marius is an angry little man with inferiority complexes which he compensates for by playing macho.
He has never accomplished anything and he has, I suspect, never won a real victory. He has always been allowed to quit.
If you try as hard as you can and fail, it's a victory. But only trying half-heartedly and then wanna quit on top of that then being told: Of course, you poor little darling. Instead of being told: Try again and try harder! That's a defeat.
I bet Marius has had plenty of those.
I imagine that in his world a man is always strong and in charge, if not he is weak and despicable and not worthy of any respect. But deep down he knows he's a failure. It's all an illusion. A pretense. A mask. And that angers him.
So he takes his anger and disappointment in himself out on people who are weaker than him, or who he in his macho-outlook believe should be weaker than him. Women. And that probably includes rape. If he of top of that has some sort of personality disorder or social dysfunction then you've a nasty cocktail on your hands.

Had Marius not been good looking and social and the son of the Crown Princess, he might very well have ended up sitting in the basement of his parents home being an ever angrier incel.

He ought to have been send out on a school ship when he was 16, away for six months, testing his limits and won personal victories and earned the respect he so much desire.

- And thus ends my pocket-philosophical thoughts for this day.

Absolutely agree with you. I will add that having a sister and mother who will one day be in positions of power when he will have none probably aggravates the already angry little man in his head. He is powerless and a failure so he has to humiliate women to try to make himself feel superior.

Unfortunately, his not so bright parents couldn't figure out that he needed some drastic help. A school ship would have been perfect, a very controlled setting where he can't escape. There are many other options along the same lines. His parents were just too lazy to deal with the situation, it was much easier to ignore it and hoped it went away. Short term solution. Now they should be paying the piper right beside their son, but I don't think it will go that way. They won't be held accountable.

 

[victor1319]

We amateurs can try to rationalize and try to understand Marius' deeds all the day, but I am pretty sure for a criminal psychologist he is a just a typical perp... Thank God he is no strangler or something.

But the damage for the Royal House is large and we cannot be sure, that the thing is done now. There might be still(!) impending news....

 

[Queen Claude]

What an odd comment about if he “actually and thoughtfully chooses to use it.” Is he implying that Marius isn’t competent or involved in his own defense?

IIRC Elden is also the attorney for one of the other women.

Nora Haukland

 

[llj]

In Norway they try and avoid putting people in jail, pending investigation, unless they are very dangerous or impede investigations or are likely to try and flee the country.
....
Having said that I'm pretty surprised that Marius isn't in jail by now, even in Norway. Because he has after all been under serious investigation for a drug-rape committed while he was under investigation for other crimes.

Even with his association to the royal family, which has presumably given him more protection than a "normal" Norwegian, I do not understand the choices of the judicial system now to let him roam free and and continue to be a menace to society. It's not a secret, everyone knows, hiding behind the crown shouldn't be able to save him now.

 

[Muhler]

Even with his association to the royal family, which has presumably given him more protection than a "normal" Norwegian, I do not understand the choices of the judicial system now to let him roam free and and continue to be a menace to society. It's not a secret, everyone knows, hiding behind the crown shouldn't be able to save him now.

I agree. IMO he ought to have been put in custody behind bars months ago.

Let's hope his stay at the rehab, or "house-arrest" or whatever it was he has been doing outside Narvik has helped.
Because the problem with Marius is that if he doesn't learn his lesson now, and get some sort of punishment, so he for once can learn that he is not above suffering consequences, he will revert to his old ways. One way or another.

He won't be ditched by a king Haakon, especially not when MM is still around, and even then Haakon won't ditch Marius. I don't know what it would take for that to happen, short of a direct political order from the Norwegian government. Somehow Haakon and MM will keep supporting Marius even if he returns to his old ways and old friends. We can debate the reasons for that endlessly, but the support will remain, somehow.
Unless Marius is abducted by Martians, he may remain a problem for decades to come.

So will ML and her shaman, but they almost seem mildly irritating in comparison.

 

[Duke of Marmalade]

We amateurs can try to rationalize and try to understand Marius' deeds all the day, but I am pretty sure for a criminal psychologist he is a just a typical perp... Thank God he is no strangler or something.

But the damage for the Royal House is large and we cannot be sure, that the thing is done now. There might be still(!) impending news....

Well, he is a serial rapist and who knows how many little films will still be found. And he might be no strangler but in the case that started everything he had a knife and violently trashed a flat.
I am really irritated that he still walks the streets of Oslo as if nothing had happened.

 

[LadyFinn]

Dagbladet:
The police found pictures and videos of TV profile Linni Meister in a hidden folder, several sexualized images and videos that have been hidden with a password function on one of Marius' digital devices.
The Oslo Police District doesn't want to comment this information. Linni Meister's lawyer, John Christian Elden:
- My client never gave consent to film anything, and she was not aware of the rape before the police showed her the material, so it is difficult for her to comment on this beyond saying that the situation is sad and demanding.
Dagbladet knows also that during the investigation, the police have seized voluntary sex videos from Marius' digital devices. The police have seized, among other things, three phones and Macbooks.

Videofunn i hemmelig mappe

Politiet fant bilder og videoer av TV-profil Linni Meister (39) i en skjult mappe, ifølge Dagbladets opplysninger.

www.dagbladet.no

How much have Haakon, Mette-Marit and Ingrid Alexandra and Magnus known about Marius' acts? And how long have they known?

According to documents obtained by Nettavisen from the Oslo District Court, Øyvind Bratlien was appointed as defense attorney for Marius on August 4 at 16.00 (the same day he was arrested).
The Oslo District Court informs that they have paid a total of NOK 353,409, including VAT, to Bratlien for the work he has done for Marius so far.
It is not Marius himself who pays for the legal assistance, but the taxpayers. Having a defense attorney appointed in serious criminal cases where you are accused is a right that applies to everyone, regardless of income and position in society. (..)

«Gangsteradvokaten» har fått flere hundre tusen kroner i Høiby-saken

Volds- og overgrepssakene med Marius Borg Høiby har vært innbringende for Øyvind Bratlien.

www.nettavisen.no