Marius Borg Høiby News & Current Events Part 1: December 2023 -


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"According to Aftenposten, Snekkestad wrote a text message to Crown Princess Mette-Marit and Crown Prince Haakon in January 2023, in which she reportedly told about her experiences with Høiby."

If Juliane has this text message, it would push it past the he says/she says phase. This text message would have been before his August arrest that opened all these investigations.

But of course we cant ask the Crown Prince Couple if they received such a text.
The texts are still only what Snekkestad claims, not proof that anything happened. In fact, if you believe Marius' claims that she abused him, repeated texts might support the idea she was trying to get him into trouble.

As far as Mette-Marit and Haakon, it really doesn't matter if they ever received the texts or responded to her. They're not on trial, and Marius is an adult, not their minor child. Receiving texts wouldn't make them witnesses to his alleged abuse.

Besides, if the police thought the texts were that important, they could pull them off Snekkestad's phone. They wouldn't need access to Mette-Marit for that.
 
Come on, that's ridiculous that Marius is supposed to have been beat up by his girlfriend. And anyhow, if a guy like Marius, who apparently routinely beat all his girlfriends, attacked a girl and she tried everything to physically get him off of her, would that then make her the attacker?!
 
"According to Aftenposten, Snekkestad wrote a text message to Crown Princess Mette-Marit and Crown Prince Haakon in January 2023, in which she reportedly told about her experiences with Høiby."

If Juliane has this text message, it would push it past the he says/she says phase. This text message would have been before his August arrest that opened all these investigations.

But of course we cant ask the Crown Prince Couple if they received such a text.

Juliane Snekkestad's lawyer Petter J. Grødem told VG on November 11 that the text message had been delivered to the police. This was also confirmed by police prosecutor Andreas Kruszewski to VG.

Come on, that's ridiculous that Marius is supposed to have been beat up by his girlfriend. And anyhow, if a guy like Marius, who apparently routinely beat all his girlfriends, attacked a girl and she tried everything to physically get him off of her, would that then make her the attacker?!

Yes, Marius claims that this tiny woman beat him up.
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No, they say she “abused” him. That could be emotional or psychological abuse.
 
No, they say she “abused” him. That could be emotional or psychological abuse.

I think I read violence, as in physical violence, back when this first came up.

Who is the common denominator in all these stories of violence and threats towards many different people? It's Marius, not Juliane.

One can even watch the video in which Marius demonstrates beating up his ex-girlfriend, no such thing about Juliane. Who has trashed several apartments and houses - Marius or Juliane? Because that's obviously the aggressive person with no impulse control.

Who is the drug addict? Not saying that all addicts behave violently, but statistically it certainly raises the likelihood.
 
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It was always “abuse”. And in the text messages that she sent MM she also asked for money for I don’t remember what need she had following her split from Marius. At least that’s what I remember. It must be mentioned somewhere in this thread.

That doesn’t mean Marius is less of a scum.
 
I don’t think anyone here is defending Marius (i certainly don’t) but it is important to remember that noone has been convicted yet…

Yes it goes slowly and yes it takes frustratingly long time but that’s the reality… Completing an investigation with all the interrogations, collecting of evidence and neccessary administrative work to guarantee law and order, and everyones legal security (yes even the worst criminals has a right to that), before the case is being presented to a prosecutor is certainly not a funny task and i don’t envy the police in this case, having to deal with it under the extreme media pressure that automatically comes with the associations and links to the royal family…

Yet it is the police that can and should do this… Not ”Se og Hør” and the public opinion
 
I can understand that the process of investigating and going to court takes a while. To me the question is will he be treated and prosecuted like any regular person and I am just not sure about that.

It started with informing Mette-Marit and/ or people working for the Royal Family that he would be arrested, providing time to clean up the house, potentially get rid of evidence and make a sim card magically disappear. It goes on with Mette-Marit not being questioned, even though we can all imagine that a regular mother suspected of having interfered most likely would be. Nora Haukland being threatened, possibly by people who don't want to see the Royal Family's reputation ruined...

And I still wonder about Marius being allowed to leave the country for a holiday and rehab. Could a regular Norwegian under investigation for rape and violence also just leave the country? And would the UK even let such a person enter the country or is it still the diplomatic passport being used??
 
I’m not saying that Marius is not at fault but it makes me uncomfortable to see people immediately decide that he is lying about also being abused in the relationship. Women are also capable of abusing their partners.

Perhaps it was a completely toxic relationship and they were both horrible to each other. Perhaps drugs and alcohol were regularly being abused by the couple with terrible results. We don’t know because we weren’t there. But we can’t just decide that he is the abuser and that there is no way she could also have been an abuser.
 
"An unknown audio recording reveals what happened in the ex-girlfriend's apartment, just before Marius allegedly planted a knife in the wall and strangled her."
"In Frogner, many people had chosen to get some fresh air and sleep with the windows open, to enjoy the cool and quiet August night. The well-maintained apartment buildings from the late 19th century were evidence of a peaceful and distinguished residential area.
But the idyllic atmosphere was suddenly broken by a loud and threatening voice on the summer night, uttering curse words and expressions rarely heard in the exclusive neighborhood.
Both neighbors and passersby heard the noise from one of the apartments.
Se og Hør has been in contact with several witnesses and neighbors, who have told how they experienced the situation.
...Se og Hør has also gained access to a new audio recording, taken from outside, where Marius Borg Høiby (27) makes several derogatory and threatening comments to his then-girlfriend inside the apartment. "
 
Women are capable of abuse, but no, I do not believe a man accused of rape and abuse towards a long list of women when he uses as his defense a claim that one of these women also abused him.

Unlike Marius, there is no indication that Juliane abused drugs. Marius is so toxic that he doesn't even abide by restraining orders given to him by the police.

This guy is a threat towards women and the fact that his mother happened to marry into royalty doesn't make him any better than common criminals.
 
"An unknown audio recording reveals what happened in the ex-girlfriend's apartment, just before Marius allegedly planted a knife in the wall and strangled her."
"In Frogner, many people had chosen to get some fresh air and sleep with the windows open, to enjoy the cool and quiet August night. The well-maintained apartment buildings from the late 19th century were evidence of a peaceful and distinguished residential area.
But the idyllic atmosphere was suddenly broken by a loud and threatening voice on the summer night, uttering curse words and expressions rarely heard in the exclusive neighborhood.
Both neighbors and passersby heard the noise from one of the apartments.
Se og Hør has been in contact with several witnesses and neighbors, who have told how they experienced the situation.
...Se og Hør has also gained access to a new audio recording, taken from outside, where Marius Borg Høiby (27) makes several derogatory and threatening comments to his then-girlfriend inside the apartment. "

Se og Hør published an audio recording, in which Marius is allegedly heard making derogatory and threatening comments to his then-girlfriend inside the apartment in Frogner.
In the audio clip, the following can be heard being said, among other things:
"You have nothing to do in this town anymore... I want you to die. I want you to die."
Nettavisen has attempted to get a comment from Marius' lawyer, Øyvind Bratlien. No answer yet.
Lawyer Mette Yvonne Larsen wouldn't confirm that the recording is authentic and originates from the evening in question. Larsen describes it as a strain and stressful for her client that new audio recordings are being leaked to the public. She didn't want to go into details about the content of the audio clip but said it speaks for itself.

New sound recording shocks
According to Se og Hør, several neighbors and passers-by on the street heard the loud argument from the apartment. In the recording, Marius is heard making crude and threatening statements towards his then-girlfriend.
Among other things, he is said to have said: "So, everything, you have lost everything", before he continued with a threat: "I will destroy your life."
In another part of the recording, he is said to have said: "It's bubbling inside me. I want you to die!” The case is still being investigated, and the strong statements in the audio recordings put further focus on the seriousness of the accusations against Marius.

What a revelation just before Christmas.

The headlines about the audio recordings look bad for Marius and the NRF "I want you to die", "I will ruin your life"

Defence lawyers John Christian Elden and Mette Yvonne Larsen have asked the police for more investigations. The lawyers have been given until Friday to submit their input on further investigative steps in the criminal case against Marius.
Nora Haukland's lawyer John Christian Elden tells that the police asked for input to obtain additional evidence, and they have said they can question four named people. (..)
 
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Here is what is being said in the sound-recording, ostensibly been made by a neighbor of the Frogner woman. And shortly before he planted a knife in the wall and grabbed her by the throat. It is surprisingly clear!

"Well she's now barred from all venues (all places in Oslo where they serve alcohol and liquor) in town."
"Well, everything, you are going to lose everything. I'll destroy your life."
"You have nothing." - Presumably the Frogner woman: "I haven't done anything."
(Unintelligible.)
"You have no place in this town anymore, nothing."

(Frogner woman?) "I... I have." - M: "It bobbles inside me."
"I'd like you to die."
"I'd like you to die."
"I don't wanna see you again."

"Will you please go inside. I don't wanna see your snout (face) again."
"Please go away:"
"Please."

"Stop following me. Go away."
"Jeez! Stop following me!"
"If we are through?" (With each other.)
"If we are through?"
"I can promise you one thing; No one in the whole world are so through as we are. You'll never see my snout again."
"Will you please stop following me."
"No, I don't want anything to do with you anymore, please go away."
 
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"Well, everything, you are going to lose everything. I'll destroy your life."
"You have nothing."
"You have no place in this town anymore, nothing."

This Marius, besides all the despicable things he seems to imagine himself as the King of Oslo too, who decides, who is in and who is out.

How did he come to this conclusion?
 
I wonder who leaked this and when it first appeared. You would think if a neighbor had gone to the trouble of recording it, they would have called the police in the middle of the fight.
 
I wonder who leaked this and when it first appeared. You would think if a neighbor had gone to the trouble of recording it, they would have called the police in the middle of the fight.

This! It took a friend and 10-12 hours to report the incident to the police.
Also, I don’t fully understand who is saying what.
 
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This! It took a friend and 10-12 hours to report the incident to the police.
Also, I don’t fully understand who is saying what.
All quotes, except for those I have specifically attributed or believe is by the Frogner woman, are by Marius. His voice is very clear in the recordings.
The paragraphs are consistent with the segments in the recording.

- It is my guess that they had their quarrel outside the building, and right in front of the open windows of a neighbor, who must have made the recording.
I also suspect there might have been some editing by Se&Hør, in the sense that the Frogner women is only heard (and only just) a couple of times. Presumably she must have said something and that something would have been recorded as well. But that might be an attempt to protect the Frogner woman.
Se&Hør can certainly make a case of publishing this recording being in the greater interest of the public, thus overriding the privacy of Marius. But the Frogner women is considered a victim, so here I believe Se&Hør if treading more softly. Especially as I doubt they have her permission to publish this.
A technicality but as stated many times before, the laws on privacy are very strict.

This Marius, besides all the despicable things he seems to imagine himself as the King of Oslo too, who decides, who is in and who is out.

How did he come to this conclusion?
Because he is a little man with an over-inflated view of himself? Such people are often the most abusive IMO.
 
What a horrendous situation for the NRF, mortifying for their Majesty's and embarrassing for the CP Couple, yet I have the feeling that that is where the unadulterated sense of entitlement has come from. Perhaps Haakon and Mette Marit overcompensated because he was the eldest and basically, a nobody. Thus, spoiling makes them feel better but does not do much to help build character.

As to the notion that Mette Marit should basically divorce her husband if she wants to keep any type of contact and relationship with her son, that is pretty harsh as when all is said and done (and an awful lot has been said and done) she is his Mother and for her to continue loving him is not in any way and endorsement of his behaviour.

It must be heartbreaking for all the family and while I have found lots of damning conversation and writing, in the end it will come down to the Judicial System and one must hope that when they weigh the evidence, justice will be done.

No more, no less.
 
I would bet that, as the article suggests, Haakon went to pick Marius up for Christmas. They point out that traveling with Haakon would put Marius in Haakon's protective "bubble" with bodyguards, planes on the tarmac, and so on.

The last thing they need is an incident in an airport or something.
 
The first thought through my head is that Marius will be back for Christmas - or alternatively that Haakon and MM will visit Marius Marius at the clinic and celebrate a kind of Christmas with him in UK in perhaps a rented cabin, before they return to Norway.
I doubt Marius has been long enough at the clinic for him to have become "clean", so taking him back to Norway to celebrate Christmas with the family, may have an adverse effect on his treatment and also send an unfortunate signal to the Norwegians.
But let's see.
 
The first thought through my head is that Marius will be back for Christmas - or alternatively that Haakon and MM will visit Marius Marius at the clinic and celebrate a kind of Christmas with him in UK in perhaps a rented cabin, before they return to Norway.
I doubt Marius has been long enough at the clinic for him to have become "clean", so taking him back to Norway to celebrate Christmas with the family, may have an adverse effect on his treatment and also send an unfortunate signal to the Norwegians.
But let's see.
We don't know that he was actually using drugs at the time he entered rehab, so maybe he was "detoxed" a bit going in. I'd hope that he didn't have access to anything during the week he was in jail right before he entered rehab.
 
Figures that Dagbladet has obtained from the analysis agency Retriever show that Marius has been mentioned in 5,400 reports in editorially controlled media since August 6 and until December 23.
- The numbers speak for themselves. It's completely exceptional. I think we haven't seen anything like this in any criminal case in Norway before, says Marius' lawyer Øyvind Bratlien.
 
German tabloid "Bunte" reported today that Mette for the first time talked to the press about the Marius problem. I think the comment was first published in a Danish news channel.

 
This is the translation ... but I am not impressed. If Marius indeed has had professional help for many years already what happened in the autum is a complete admission of failure of whatever measures had been taken.

Marius Borg Høiby receives professional help
"But what we can say is that he has been receiving help for a long time, professional help from the health system," Mette-Marit said. "I don't think that without this help we would be able to cope with such a situation together as a family and at the same time fulfill our obligations to the Norwegian people."
Haakon's father King Harald V told the broadcaster that drugs, violence and mental health are causing major problems in Norway and worldwide. "And of course it's hard that someone we love has experienced something like this," said the 87-year-old monarch. "But now we have to let the legal system do its job, as it has to do. We cannot interfere in the case."
 
Video footage of Princess MM making the comments:
“I’m a little concerned that there is a responsibility that lies with the press. They must take responsibility for the enormous pressure.” she says, not referring my to Marius’ troubles but of the pressure she’s felt because of it and how tough of a time it has been because of the attention.

And more from the King:


And more from Haakon:


I must say, this year in review and interview has made me impressed in how they are handling the situation--as open as is appropriate given the circumstances, at no point showing anything but concern and love for Marius as someone who they do love.
 
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I don't blame the press for putting on the pressure on bit. They should have put on that kind of pressure a few years earlier, but the Marius the private person was being pampered and mollycoddled at the insistence of the court. Everyone knew that he was taking drugs and mixing with criminals, exposing it earlier might have saved some of the victims the personal ordeal they had to endure.
 
I don't blame the press for putting on the pressure on bit. They should have put on that kind of pressure a few years earlier, but the Marius the private person was being pampered and mollycoddled at the insistence of the court. Everyone knew that he was taking drugs and mixing with criminals, exposing it earlier might have saved some of the victims the personal ordeal they had to endure.

5400 articles about Marius in the norwegian press since august. I don’t know, I find it excessive but what do I know.
 
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