Marius Borg Høiby News & Current Events Part 1: December 2023 -


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This whole saga has been a horrible thing to follow. By now we know that Marius is too far gone to be helped by any conventional means. No matter what else might or might not have happened in his victims' lives, nobody deserves any of the horror Marius has caused them. My sympathies are firmly for the women he has abused, and who for a long time, one way or another, were let down by people around them. Including the royal house, authorities and the media.

But the problem for the Norwegian monarchy is that this is not just about Marius. I guess I'm not the only one who sees a pattern here. Case Märtha Louise and her "shaman" is different from this in every respect but one. Both of these cases paint a picture of a royal house that doesn't take itself seriously, doesn't take its duties seriously, yet expects the general population to take them seriously. An equation like that can never work, and the attitude is pure poison for the institution's future. If, indeed, it has any.

Many here have written that MM perhaps blames herself and the complicated set up with Marius in an unequal role compared to his half-siblings for all the trouble Marius has had with the outside world (and with himself). It would be understandable of her to think like that, no matter how wrong we know her conclusions to be. And yet, I still can't understand it, how someone with such logic-defying, blind love for one child can neglect another child so completely. Mette Marit, by protecting Marius to this extent, has essentially thrown her own daughter under the bus. Ingrid Alexandra, as the future Queen, doesn't have the same luxury as Marius of choosing her own path in life. She must serve the institution of monarchy, she must be in the spotlight for all her life, and there really is no way she can opt out of it, no honourable way, anyway. And MM has made her daughter's plight massively more challenging than it was ever going to be. I don't just mean the reputational damage that Marius has brought to the family, but also the connections. This level of connections to the underworld poses a massive risk to IA. Not just for the monarchy, but also for her as a person, on many levels. Marius' friends just don't appear to be the kind of people who would leave royals alone.

When Haakon and Mette Marit married, I thought that this might one day trigger the end of the Norwegian Monarchy. I never agreed with the idea that Nordic monarchies were popular because they were down to earth. Instead, they have been popular because they have worked hard, and because they have given the appearance of being trustworthy and level-headed. Yet, truth to be told, I never expected to be proven right in such a horrible way. It's not just Marius' fault or Mette Marit's fault, but the sorry product of a family culture where they think being "down to earth" or "like all the other citizens" means taking nothing seriously, yet making use of their royal privilege without limit.

Both Märtha Louise and Haakon give me the impression of spoiled kids without any sense of proportion whatsoever. I don't know if Harald and Sonja can directly be blamed, not necessarily. The old King and Queen have done their very best for Norway and for the royal house, and though they would never say so openly, somehow I fear they watch their offspring with a sense of disappointment, worry and self-blame.

It's quite possible that after Harald's time, if not before, the support of monarchy collapses spectacularly in Norway. It won't be enough for a transformation into a republic, however. The monarchy thus enters a future in limbo, where politicians hope it's out of the way, yet do not have the energy or the guts to do away with it. Marius, as well as Märtha Louise, will continue to damage the institution with their antics. And yet for monarchists, this is really the best case scenario. Because at least, as long as the monarchy isn't abolished, there remains the chance that one day Ingrid Alexandra can turn things around and the past trouble can be forgotten. Haakon and Mette Marit already had their chance to do their thing for the monarchy, and they blew it. Sorry to be so blunt, but there is no way around it.
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This is one very insightful post and I cannot praise it enough.👍

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The police warned Marius about his friends: The Marius' friends' drug network
Dagbladet can today say that two long-time friends of Marius have over time had contact with the ex-footballer charged with possession of 34 kilos cocaine - and the case complex the police believe he is part of.
Here is the timeline that follows Marius' friends' contact with the cocaine suspects.
www.dagbladet.no

Høiby-vennenes narko-nettverk

Strandfest i Marbella og sein middag på Oslo vest, kobler gode venner av Marius Borg Høiby til det politiet mener er en kokainliga.
www.dagbladet.no www.dagbladet.no

Since the beginning of November, Dagbladet has tried to get an answer to whether the crown prince couple are willing to be questioned by the police in connection with the investigation of Marius. without getting an answer. The Palace has not responded to Dagbladet's repeated inquiries.
www.dagbladet.no

Nekter å svare

Slottet vil ikke svare på om kronprinsparet er villige til å stille i politiavhør.
www.dagbladet.no www.dagbladet.no
 
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LadyFinn said:
The police warned Marius about his friends: The Marius' friends' drug network
Dagbladet can today say that two long-time friends of Marius have over time had contact with the ex-footballer charged with possession of 34 kilos cocaine - and the case complex the police believe he is part of.
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Say, what you want, the Norwegian press is pressing - relentless!

The whole drug thingy was already out of the spot and now this! It is not going away!
 
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NRK has interviewed Marius' lawyer, who tells about his job, his background and about defending Marius.

- I would rather be called a defender, not a gangster lawyer.
The lawyer's phone rings: Marius would like to have Bratlien as his defender.
- I had no doubts when he called. I am almost never in doubt when people call and ask me for help.
Were you surprised when Høiby contacted you?
- Both yes and no. I think he has noticed what cases I have had and what I have achieved in the past. I defend Høiby, and I do so in the same way as I would defend anyone else.
Marius has admitted guilt for some of the cases he is charged with, but not the rapes. Bratlien says that he is 100 % prejudged. Bratlien gives everything for his clients, but there is a group of criminals he will never have anything to do with, he doesn't take cases against pedophiles.
www.nrk.no

Øyvind Bratlien forsvarar Høiby: – Eg var ikkje i tvil då han ringde

Øyvind Bratlien forsvarar nokon av landets farlegaste menneske – og Marius Borg Høiby.
www.nrk.no www.nrk.no
 
The ongoing discussion about Princess Ingrid Alexandra and her possible love/married life has been removed as off-topic.
 
"Høiby says he received NOK 20,000 a month from his parents
Marius Borg Høiby (27) has told the police about how the crown prince couple help him financially.
Marius Borg Høiby has explained himself to the police a number of times. There he has been asked questions about his personal finances.
TV 2 is aware of parts of the content of one of the interviews.
According to TV 2's information, Høiby has said in questioning that he has no income, but that he still has money.
The reason is that he receives financial support from home, he explains.
TV 2 is not aware of whether he is referring to Crown Prince Haakon or his biological father Morten Borg. Borg has not responded to TV 2's inquiries.
To avoid the bills going to debt collection, it is his mother and Crown Prince Haakon who arrange the bills, he explains. "
www.tv2.no

Høiby sier han fikk 20.000 kroner fra foreldrene i måneden

Marius Borg Høiby (27) har fortalt politiet om hvordan kronprinsparet hjelper ham økonomisk.
www.tv2.no www.tv2.no
 
NOK 20.000 would be 1.716 Euro/1.800 USD/1.422 GBP - and if his bills are also going to Haakon and MM (to avoid them going to debt collection? [you'd think that the alternative would be: him paying]), that would suggest that the NOK 20.000 could be spending money, while his other costs are covered by his mother and stepfather.
 
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NOK 20.000 would be 1.716 Euro/1.800 USD/1.422 GBP - and if his bills are also going to Haakon and MM (to avoid them going to debt collection? [you'd think that the alternative would be: him paying]), that would suggest that the NOK 20.000 could be spending money, while his other costs are covered by his mother and stepfather.
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For US dollars are you saying it would be $1800/ month (one thousand eight hundred dollars)?
 
Ghost said:
Almost, 1787 $. Not a lot, I suspect they didn’t want to fuel his addiction.
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Thank you! If they are paying his bills (car, phone, credit cards, utilities for his house and I guess the rent is free), I think that $1787 “spending money” is quite a lot. I really can’t think of any normal 27 year olds I know who have that much discretionary income each month.
Except for what we call “trust fund kids” who don’t have jobs either and live off inherited funds. But even one trust fund kid of 30 that I know works at Best Buy to have health insurance and something to do - he’s on the Geek Squad installing and fixing electronics. Maybe Marius could get a job there after rehab and jail. :p
 
Norway is one of the most expensive countries in Europe, maybe as expensive as Switzerland. That’s what made me say it’s not a lot. The average monthly income in 2023 was aprox 5000 euros, almost three times what Marius says he was getting from his parents.
 
Ghost said:
Norway is one of the most expensive countries in Europe, maybe as expensive as Switzerland. That’s what made me say it’s not a lot. The average monthly income in 2023 was aprox 5000 euros, almost three times what Marius says he was getting from his parents.
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Thanks for this info! :flowers:
 
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According to the police, Marius is alleged to have raped a young woman just hours after he had a pleasant family dinner with his then-girlfriend and her family on Palm Saturday March 23.
After the dinner was over, Marius and his girlfriend took a taxi home to Skaugum, where they lived together. But at some point Marius decided he didn't want to go home. He wanted to party instead, and his girlfriend therefore let him drop off in the city centre. She herself took the taxi to Skaugum.
Marius returned home to Skaugum only in the morning. In the meantime, Marius is said to have been at home with a woman in her 20s whom he didn't knew before. He allegedly assaulted her in the woman's home in Oslo.
According to TV 2, the rape has happened at 08.10 in the morning on Palm Sunday. The reason why the time is so precise is that the police has found several videos of the incident on Marius' mobile phone.
www.seher.no

«Voldtok kvinne etter familie-middag»

Mette-Marits eldste sønn skal ifølge politiet ha voldtatt en ung kvinne bare timer etter at han satt i hyggelig familiemiddag med sin daværende kjæreste og hennes familie.
www.seher.no www.seher.no
 
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Ghost said:
Norway is one of the most expensive countries in Europe, maybe as expensive as Switzerland. That’s what made me say it’s not a lot. The average monthly income in 2023 was aprox 5000 euros, almost three times what Marius says he was getting from his parents.
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Yes , I agree as to how expensive it must be to live in Norway . However as Marius stated ALL his formal / regular bills are paid by his parents , whether birth or step . I sincerely doubt he has ever had to pay for his drugs etc . Unrestricted access to the CP couples private estate / home , their possessions would have compensated his criminal friends adequately .
 
Muhler said:
Marius has more money to spend than an ordinary working couple his age. - after, taxes, insurance, transport, union, heating, food and other necessities.
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A very comfortable life, indeed. but also a very empty and useless life with no work ethics and no ambitions. That definitely has to change too after rehab or prison.
 
hereditarytitles said:
A very comfortable life, indeed. but also a very empty and useless life with no work ethics and no ambitions. That definitely has to change too after rehab or prison.
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It looks like he is a serial rapist, in addition to being an abuser to all his girlfriends. At this point, I think jail is the only option.
 
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Mbruno said:
It looks like he is a serial rapist, in addition to being an abuser to all his girlfriends. At this point, I think jail is the only option.
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Yes, prison in any case, but he also needs therapy so that he becomes aware of his misogynistic, brutal and criminal behavior and realizes how much harm he is doing to other people, not only to the girlfriends or other women but also to his family. I have my doubts if that will happen, he is so deeply in the mud, has no conscience and no feelings, seems to be hard and cruel. If he only gets a prison sentence which I hope he will, but nothing else he might come out of prison being the same dangerous person as before.
 
hereditarytitles said:
Yes, prison in any case, but he also needs therapy so that he becomes aware of his misogynistic, brutal and criminal behavior and realizes how much harm he is doing to other people, not only to the girlfriends or other women but also to his family. I have my doubts if that will happen, he is so deeply in the mud, has no conscience and no feelings, seems to be hard and cruel. If he only gets a prison sentence which I hope he will, but nothing else he might come out of prison being the same dangerous person as before.
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Marius has had therapy , it seems to be fairly obvious that neither he or his birth/step parents, felt that he truly needed it , since he was allowed to walk away from it with no consequences . Indeed his subsequent behaviour shows that he was indulged even more . From what I have read , prison in Norway does focus on rehabilitation in addition to punishment . No one wants repeat offenders , especially in sexual crimes . I'm afraid that unless Marius has a ' road to Damascus ' , epiphany the NRF especially IA & SM are in for decades of drama . I'm afraid that apart from his maternal grandmother , they are the only ones in the NRF I have full sympathy for .
 
LadyFinn said:
Se og Hør:
According to the police, Marius is alleged to have raped a young woman just hours after he had a pleasant family dinner with his then-girlfriend and her family on Palm Saturday March 23.
After the dinner was over, Marius and his girlfriend took a taxi home to Skaugum, where they lived together. But at some point Marius decided he didn't want to go home. He wanted to party instead, and his girlfriend therefore let him drop off in the city centre. She herself took the taxi to Skaugum.
Marius returned home to Skaugum only in the morning. In the meantime, Marius is said to have been at home with a woman in her 20s whom he didn't knew before. He allegedly assaulted her in the woman's home in Oslo.
According to TV 2, the rape has happened at 08.10 in the morning on Palm Sunday. The reason why the time is so precise is that the police has found several videos of the incident on Marius' mobile phone.
www.seher.no

«Voldtok kvinne etter familie-middag»

Mette-Marits eldste sønn skal ifølge politiet ha voldtatt en ung kvinne bare timer etter at han satt i hyggelig familiemiddag med sin daværende kjæreste og hennes familie.
www.seher.no www.seher.no
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Marius is clearly a dangerous person.
 
I am so tired of waking up every day to learn that Marius still hasn't been brought to justice. What a train wreck of a situation. How can anyone accused of multiple rapes still be walking free? How can anyone with such enormous substance abuse and anger issues not be receiving treatment? This is an atrocity of justice and a huge failure on the part of Haakon and MM not to be more proactive. I'm almost at the point of agreeing that the throne should jump a generation to Ingrid Alexandra.
 
Dagbladet's political editor is responsible for the editorial, in which is written among other things:
We must realize that Marius' money lending and criminal circle of friends constitute a significant security risk for the Royal House.
TV 2 published a story about Marius explaining his personal finances. He has no personal income, but receives financial support from home. To avoid bills going to debt collection, Haakon and Mette-Marit ensure that they are paid. He has no control over his finances and is in a stressful financial situation, he has explained. He borrows money from his friends. "He thinks he has debt, but has no control over this" the case states.
The Royal House comments to TV 2: "The Royal Court has no knowledge of the private finances of Marius Borg Høiby". But they should have. If Marius owes money to people with criminal contacts, it potentially poses a significant security risk for the Royal House.
www.dagbladet.no

En sikkerhetsrisiko

Vi må innse at Marius Borg Høibys pengelån og kriminelle vennekrets utgjør en betydelig sikkerhetsrisiko for det norske kongehuset.
www.dagbladet.no www.dagbladet.no
 
He has no sense of responsibility. I doubt he has ever learned responsibility.
As he has no idea of his financial situation it's safe to say he just spends money on whatever fancies him - knowing MM and Haakon will bail him out.
It is obvious that he has a serious history of totally mismanaging his economy, why else would Haakon and MM pay his bills? Well, of course also in an attempt to hide the problems with Marius.
It seems more than obvious to me that MM and Haakon have totally caved in to Marius. And not only that, they have shielded Marius way beyond what can possibly be considered reasonable, even beyond the point where it hurts other people.
I don't know what psychology is behind MM and Haakon - and ultimately King Harald himself - closing their eyes for Marius antics and presumably hoping it will somehow be resolved by itself. But at the same time Marius seems genuinely to be a very treasured member of the family - funny Marius, cool Marius, crazy Marius. I don't know if they are in a sense of collective denial about Marius or they really believe they are a happy little family regardless of warnings they surely must have received over the years.

To me it's not only Marius who need therapy, it's the whole bloody NRF!

Because there is a similar story of collective denial or burying their heads in the sand or playing happy family or whatever in regards to ML and her antics. Now culminating in her marrying a reptile ex-pharaoh!

It's totally baffling! Incomprehensible in fact! Can't they see it?!? Are they all living in some sort of happy-bubble?

As is, it's not Marius, not ML and her Durek who are the biggest threats to the Norwegian monarchy, they can be dealt with. Very firmly if need be. No, it's all the so-called normal members of the NRF who are the biggest threat to the monarchy.

Whatever is happening the NRF is in serious need of a reality check. Otherwise they will look at each other in an X number of years in honest bewilderment, having been reduced to commoners and been replaced by a president, asking each other: What happened?!?

The time for make-believe is over! Alas, I'm far from convinced the gravity of the situation has dawned on the NRF.
 
Again it gets worse...yet another rape victim. I've lost count of the number of victims at this point. I honestly hope these women are getting the support and therapy that they need. It's bad enough that they have to cope with the trauma of the rape but now there is the added media attention that they must cope with.

The Court's response is pretty pathetic. Marius has admitted that he is receiving financial support from Haakon and Mette-Marit. If Marius is/was doing drugs for years and has ties to the criminal underworld... the CP couple receives an appanage- then by extension Norwegian tax dollars are being and were being to used to fund Marius' drug habits and his criminal activities. That is NOT good!

I feel that the King must do something at this point and make some tough decisions. Haakon and Mette-Marit have failed. Ultimately it is King Harald's reign and this is the last leg of it unfortunately. I'm sure he doesn't want his reign to be marred by this scandal which seems to get worse each day.
 
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LadyFinn said:
Dagbladet's political editor is responsible for the editorial, in which is written among other things:
We must realize that Marius' money lending and criminal circle of friends constitute a significant security risk for the Royal House.
TV 2 published a story about Marius explaining his personal finances. He has no personal income, but receives financial support from home. To avoid bills going to debt collection, Haakon and Mette-Marit ensure that they are paid. He has no control over his finances and is in a stressful financial situation, he has explained. He borrows money from his friends. "He thinks he has debt, but has no control over this" the case states.
The Royal House comments to TV 2: "The Royal Court has no knowledge of the private finances of Marius Borg Høiby". But they should have. If Marius owes money to people with criminal contacts, it potentially poses a significant security risk for the Royal House.
www.dagbladet.no

En sikkerhetsrisiko

Vi må innse at Marius Borg Høibys pengelån og kriminelle vennekrets utgjør en betydelig sikkerhetsrisiko for det norske kongehuset.
www.dagbladet.no www.dagbladet.no
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Marius certainly makes the decisions in the UK, Denmark, Sweden, and the Netherlands over the years to create some distance between the throne and those who aren't working full-time for the royal house seem very wise.
 
Alisa said:
Again it gets worse...yet another rape victim. I've lost count of the number of victims at this point. I honestly hope these women are getting the support and therapy that they need. It's bad enough that they have to cope with the trauma of the rape but now there is the added media attention that they must cope with.

The Court's response is pretty pathetic. Marius has admitted that he is receiving financial support from Haakon and Mette-Marit. If Marius is/was doing drugs for years and has ties to the criminal underworld... the CP couple receives an appanage- then by extension Norwegian tax dollars are being and were being to used to fund Marius' drug habits and his criminal activities. That is NOT good!

I feel that the King must do something at this point and make some tough decisions. Haakon and Mette-Marit have failed. Ultimately it is King Harald's reign and this is the last leg of it unfortunately. I'm sure he doesn't want his reign to be marred by this scandal which seems to get worse each day.
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I agree. But IIRC the rape which was committed on Palm Sunday, March 23, was mentioned before, just the details when and under which circumstances this happened (being with his then girlfriend who went to the house in Skaugum and him spending the night partying and raping a woman in the morning) were published now. It just makes me speechless again.
 
"The Royal Court has no knowledge of the private finances of Marius Borg Høiby"

This is just pathetic. Haakon as the Crown Prince and head of his household has failed.
He is financially supporting a 27 year old with criminal connections and they have no idea.
A gas card goes missing for a year and he has no idea.
Does he care about taxpayer money?
Does he not know his responsibilities?
 
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